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Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
Nobody understands what our troops have to go through. And apparently, despite having served in Vietnam, neither do you.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Originally posted by Intelearthling Went into the Army, although I didn't regret it, I found it boring to what I thought the Marines could have given me. Boring is what made me quit school in the first place.
Tell us a little of your service. Your avatar is the emblem of the Special Forces, isn't it? That sounds interesting.
Originally posted by Intelearthling
I kind of feel bad about displaying the SF emblem knowing that I never was in the Special Forces, but I have a great deal of respect for these guys at Fort Bragg. I respect them just as I would a Marine or Navy SEAL.
If you think that it's inappropriate, I could remove it.
[edit on 20/9/04 by Intelearthling]
Originally posted by taibunsuu
You can use whatever you admire as your avatar.
Wikipedia-Puller
"All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time."
"We're Surrounded...That Simplifies Our Problems"
Wikipedia
Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service. (1933)
War is a racket. (1935)
I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National city Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902�1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. (1940)
"[M]y interest is, my one hobby is, maintaining a democracy. If you get these 500,000 soldiers advocating anything smelling of Fascism, I am going to get 500,000 more and lick the hell out of you, and we will have a real war right at home."
Butler and the American Coup d' Etat
How different is America from nations where political power comes quite directly "from the barrel of a gun"? A curious footnote to American history suggests that, except for the personal integrity of a remarkable American general, a coup d'�tat intended to remove President Franklin D. Roosevelt from office in 1934 might have plunged America into civil war.
Marine Leadership
The 70-percent solution�It's better to decide quickly on an imperfect plan than to spend time considering every angle and roll out a perfect plan when it's too late. Authority on demand--While retaining a strong management pyramid, encourage people even at the lowest levels to make any and all decisions necessary to accomplish the mission when management guidance isn't at hand. Anyone facing entrenched or predatory competitors, short time frames, chaotic markets, and obstacles in every direction, has a simple choice: Learn to move fast, change on the fly, and inspire employees�or die. The Marines are here to help.
Originally posted by taibunsuu
Originally posted by Intelearthling
I kind of feel bad about displaying the SF emblem knowing that I never was in the Special Forces, but I have a great deal of respect for these guys at Fort Bragg. I respect them just as I would a Marine or Navy SEAL.
If you think that it's inappropriate, I could remove it.
In the context of an internet forum, all personal life experiences are pretty much irrelevant since they are difficult to independently verify, unlike publicly-presented facts that can be objectively confirmed.
You can use whatever you admire as your avatar.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Originally posted by taibunsuu
You can use whatever you admire as your avatar.
What about you, taibunsuu? Are you a Marine or simply an admirer of the Corps and its emblem? If you served in the Corps, whom were you with. What was your MOS and what years did you serve?
I may have asked the questions before, but please, refresh my memory.
I seem to recall that you served in the Persian Gulf.
I think I might remember now. Weren't you the combat correspondent?
[edit on 04/9/20 by GradyPhilpott]
Originally posted by taibunsuu
[So how about you man, where'd you serve and under what MOS?
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Originally posted by curme
What's this have to do with the war on terrorism again?
Originally posted by taibunsuu
I went to NYC anti-war rally with Veterans' contingent in Feb, 2003, and another one in DC with Vets just before war started, when it was obvious that inspections would not be allowed to continue.
We didn't want to see American boys and girls getting involved in a foreign war that would turn into an insurgency right quick, as predicted by Bush Sr. and many other statesmen and generals when citing reasons for not invading Iraq proper after Gulf War 1, and as re-repeated by many former generals when faced with the scenarios for Gulf War 2. We also didn't like the fact that General Shinseki, when he cited a minimum of 350,000 US troops needed to secure a post-war Iraq, was blown off. We saw the mistake of politicians who never served calling the military shots and knew where it would lead.
We didn't want to see a completely useless foreign war that destabilizes the Middle East and ultimately serves no purpose, and ends up causing a lot of US troops to get hurt or killed. That's why I went to the protests.