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USMC and the War on Terrorism

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posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 02:11 AM
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This one really strikes a chord with me. Some images look a little different to me, but most of it proves that the Corps is a strong as ever and the important things somehow never change.

205.110.170.168...




[edit on 04/9/4 by GradyPhilpott]




posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 03:32 AM
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Funny, they don't advertise their Napalm or the Geneva conventions.



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by Mokuhadzushi
Funny, they don't advertise their Napalm or the Geneva conventions.


What's wrong with napalm? It's a powerful and effective weapon. Actually, the Marine Corps rarely exploits its weaponry for recruiting purposes. The Marine Corps sells its esprit de corps. The Marines have rarely had problems filling their quotas even when the other services have.

Your comment about the Geneva Convention was cheap since the US is the only combatant nation to even acknowledge the Convention, certainly the NVA or the Viet Cong did not and the Iraqis insurgents advertise their atrocities on the internet.



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 01:31 PM
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Yeah - the Marines are always doing well regardless of any other branch.

And esprit de Corps is an understatement. All the guys I know in the core are so into it, it is almost over the top. Everytime these guys are on leave and they get a few beers in them all I hear is "do you rate it?!" and the like.



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 01:50 PM
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I was going to join the Marines, but my ASVAB was to high.



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by curme
I was going to join the Marines, but my ASVAB was to high.


You should add an
to that. USMC recruiting standards are higher than those of the other services.



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by curme
I was going to join the Marines, but my ASVAB was to high.


The Marines have always taken heat for being less intelligent than the other services. That, of course, has never been the case, as our officers are among the most highly educated in the world.

Of course, the reputation of the Corps is built upon the infantry MOSs, where intelligence has never been of the utmost importance. As Sgt. Hartman says in "Full Metal Jacket," "Private Joker is silly and he's ignorant, but he's got guts and guts is enough."

Of course the high-tech weaponry and ancillary equipment used by the grunts these days require a level of education and intelligence never required in the past.

Henry Kissenger once said, "The Marines, alone among all the services, have never made any pretense toward intelligence." I have always taken this to be a compliment, because what Marines have always placed the highest value on is getting the job done. Everything else is secondary.

[edit on 04/9/4 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
This one really strikes a chord with me. Some images look a little different to me, but most of it proves that the Corps is a strong as ever and the important thing somhow never change.

205.110.170.168...


seen that commercial awhile back on a military discussion forum site...it was and still awesome...SEMPER FI!

Corporal of Marines from '99-'03



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 03:49 PM
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The Marine Corps are the greatest fighting force in history.

They're actually behind in terms of weaponry and technology, but that's not a problem. The Marines actually know how to fight, unlike the pathetic Army which likes to store high-tech stuff and instead use their digital cameras to make post-Saddam Iraqi porn.

I can't wait to be a Marine Corps officer in four years!



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by TejanoRey
SEMPER FI! Corporal of Marines from '99-'03


Always good to hear from a fellow Marine. USMC '67-'71. RVN '68-'69.



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
They're actually behind in terms of weaponry and technology, but that's not a problem. I can't wait to be a Marine Corps officer in four years!


The Marine Corps has always made do with inferior equipment, in many cases hand-me-down equipment from the Army.

If you are planning to become an Officer of Marines, I would suggest your reading Victor Krulak's wonderful little book, First to Fight. I read this book some twenty years after leaving the Corps and it made me understand and appreciate the Corps in ways I never did before.



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 03:57 PM
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What's this have to do with the war on terrorism again?



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
The Marine Corps has always made do with inferior equipment, in many cases hand-me-down equipment from the Army.

If you are planning to become an Officer of Marines, I would suggest your reading Victor Krulak's wonderful little book, First to Fight. I read this book some twenty years after leaving the Corps and it made me understand and appreciate the Corps in ways I never did before.


The Marine Corps of today would've been considered advanced in the 1970s. They use M1A1s that were basically throw-ins by the Army during the Gulf War.

One area where the Marine Corps is ahead of the Army is definitely training and tactics. The Army has a history and still does of numerous problems regarding training their soldiers and how they fight. The Marine Corps always sends in great warriors and get the job done, then go home without saying anything.

I'll check out that book! I also have all the publicaly availiable Marine Corps manuals on my system.



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
The Marine Corps has always made do with inferior equipment, in many cases hand-me-down equipment from the Army.

If you are planning to become an Officer of Marines, I would suggest your reading Victor Krulak's wonderful little book, First to Fight. I read this book some twenty years after leaving the Corps and it made me understand and appreciate the Corps in ways I never did before.


The Marine Corps of today would've been considered advanced in the 1970s. They use M1A1s that were basically throw-ins by the Army during the Gulf War.

One area where the Marine Corps is ahead of the Army is definitely training and tactics. The Army has a history and still does of numerous problems regarding training their soldiers and how they fight. The Marine Corps always sends in great warriors and get the job done, then go home without saying anything.

I'll check out that book! I also have all the publicaly availiable Marine Corps manuals on my system.


The Marines are not ahead of the Army in terms of training and tactics. The Marines are ahead of the Army in terms of Espirit De Corps and an overall sense of how to fight.

As far as the M1A1s the Marines have, in the Gulf War the Marines did just fine with the M60A3s. In fact in some cases Marine M60s blew up Iraqi M60s.



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by curme
What's this have to do with the war on terrorism again?


The last time I checked the US Marines were fighting the war on terrorism. If the mods have a problem with this thread, they will move it, just as they always do.



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by taibunsuu
The Marines are not ahead of the Army in terms of training and tactics.


Wow! The Army has watered down every element of their training to meet the new PC requirements. The Marine Corps has never made such concessions. In fact, when every other service was making requirements more lax, the Marine Corps, under Charles Krulak, was making requirements more stringent. Marine tactics have always been better than Army tactics and the difference was never more apparent than in Vietnam or in the Gulf War, when even Gen. Norman Schwartzkopf couldn't find sufficient words to describe the success of the First Marine Division.


"I can't say enough about the two Marine divisions. If I use words like 'brilliant,' it would really be an under description of the absolutely superb job that they did in breaching the so-called 'impenetrable barrier.' It was a classic- absolutely classic- military breaching of a very very tough minefield, barbed wire, fire trenches-type barrier."
Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, U. S. Army
Commander, Operation Desert Storm, February 1991




'The safest place in Korea was right behind a platoon of Marines. Lord, how they could fight!"
MGen. Frank E. Lowe, USA; Korea, 26 January 1952




'If I had one more division like this First Marine Division I could win this war."
General of the Armies Douglas McArthur in Korea,
overheard and reported by Marine Staff Sergeant Bill Houghton, Weapons/2/5




"Every Marine is, first and foremost, a rifleman. All other conditions are secondary." Gen. A. M. Gray, USMC




"The American Marines have it [pride], and benefit from it. They are tough, cocky, sure of themselves and their buddies. They can fight and they know it." General Mark Clark, U.S. Army




"Do not attack the First Marine Division. Leave the yellowlegs alone. Strike the American Army." Orders given to Communist troops in the Korean War; shortly afterward, the Marines were ordered
to not wear their khaki leggings.




"Why in hell can't the Army do it if the Marines can. They are the same kind of men; why can't they be like Marines." Gen. John J. "Black Jack" Pershing, USA; 12 February 1918




"The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle."
Gen. John "Black Jack" Pershing, U.S. Army




"I am convinced that there is no smarter, handier, or more adaptable body of troops in the world." Prime Minister of Britain, Sir Winston Churchhill




"Lying offshore, ready to act, the presence of ships and Marines sometimes means much more than just having air power or ship's fire, when it comes to deterring a crisis. And the ships and Marines may not have to do anything but lie offshore. It is hard to lie offshore with a C-141 or C-130 full of airborne troops." Gen. Colin Powell, U. S. Army




"A Marine should be sworn to the patient endurance of hardships, like the ancient knights; and it is not the least of these necessary hardships to have to serve with sailors." Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery




"We have two companies of Marines running rampant all over the northern half of this island, and three Army regiments pinned down in the southwestern corner, doing nothing. What the hell is going on?"
Gen. John W. Vessey Jr., USA, Chairman of the the Joint Chiefs of Staff




"I have just returned from visiting the Marines at the front, and there is not a finer fighting organization in the world!" General of the Armies Douglas MacArthur; Korea, 21 September 1950



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 05:35 PM
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Personally if anybody has a beef on the war on terrorism blame the people who sent thos young men and women in the first place: Bush and Blair

The UK and US forces for the most part have behaved with restraint and thoughtfullness. Mistakes yes, have been made but that's war in all its ugly form.

Whilst our young warriors are out there i will support them our soldiers/sailors/airmen, not Bush and Blair.



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by rustiswordz
Whilst our young warriors are out there i will support them our soldiers/sailors/airmen, not Bush and Blair.


Unfortunately, I have heard these words before, but when all the cards were on the table, the people who made these claims did not support the troops. They did not want the troops brought home for the good of the troops, but to further their own political agendas. When we actually came home we were treated like criminals by the very people who had shown so much concern for us while we were overseas.

Want to guess who did more to give the US military the completely unwarranted image as war criminals? Give up? He's running for President of the United States. How about this? He's a decorated former Naval Officer. Need more? He speaks French. More? He's Ted Kennedy's lap dog. More? Can you say John Kerry?



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 06:49 PM
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Army reservist here, of course about 2 weeks into basic I say to myself "and why didn't I join the air force??" . However, the Marines as a military branch have, and always will have my utmost respect. Just the other day as a matter of fact a few other friends of mine from my unit and myself were having lunch and the topic was brought up, if you could choose a unit to back you up, which would it be. The usuals were thrown out... 82nd, 101st, 75th ranger, etc...., but imagine the looks I got from my fellow soldiers when I said "any marine unit." Anyway, thats how I feel about that, and as a side note, whoever does Marine PR and develops their commercials is a genius.



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by curme
I was going to join the Marines, but my ASVAB was to high.

you should thank that recruiter for not telling you the truth
another example of the fine Corps.

well put grady



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