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Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by PrimalRed
Since when did I say this had anything to do with OWS?
So after two months of OWS protests, thousands of posts about the elite and TPTB, I have come up with an idea that would start the change and bring the power back to us, literally.
Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by PrimalRed
I don't begrudge anyone making money. But if you are going to tackle the bankers and the rest who have made their money via the FED, then you have to start somewhere. You have to start reducing the river of cash down to a stream. This is one way of doing it. There are many ways, and this is by far isn't the best, but it is a reasonable start.
Do I really have to explain this?edit on 11/18/2011 by haarvik because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by PrimalRed
Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by PrimalRed
I don't begrudge anyone making money. But if you are going to tackle the bankers and the rest who have made their money via the FED, then you have to start somewhere. You have to start reducing the river of cash down to a stream. This is one way of doing it. There are many ways, and this is by far isn't the best, but it is a reasonable start.
Do I really have to explain this?edit on 11/18/2011 by haarvik because: (no reason given)
Yeah explain how contributing to a growing multi-billion dollar a year industry (that is also subsidized by tax dollars) fights anything.
Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by PrimalRed
You cut off their money train. Where is the easiest way to do this? Alternative power. Doesn't have to be solar, it could be wind and/or water. Solar is just the most main stream and least obtrusive in an urban setting.
So, if more people are using alternative energy, less oil is needed. Now the oil barons aren't reaping as much revenue, so their clout in DC starts to wane.
By default, if the oil barons aren't generating as much cash, then the banks are not receiving as much, so their power starts to wane in DC.
Now I think I have explained this as well as it needs to be. If you still insist on pushing down the road I know you are trying to, I will just ignore and claim you as a troll.
Originally posted by Cuervo
Look, he's talking about replacing an energy structure that depends on a finite source with something that can't be monopolized. Do you realize the evil that is caused by power being monopolized? With independent energy, we could end world hunger, lower food costs, dismantle the oil industry (thus saving tons in taxes from subsidies), and put an end to several armed conflicts.
Energy monopolization (like banking) is not a legitimate business. It is evil and part of the root cause of many of humanity's problems.
ps - I think accusing Haarvik of identifying with OWS is hilarious, by the way. He's just smart, that's all.
Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms
The problem is who would head the nonprofit? Name a name and you'll find them in a landfill a few days later.
edit on 18-11-2011 by Chewingonmushrooms because: (no reason given)edit on 18-11-2011 by Chewingonmushrooms because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Grimpachi
I put solar panels up two years ago and a wind turbine they payed themselves offin 14 months. Not only that I took a 6 month trip to Central America left everything off but let the power surge back into the grid so when I came home the electric company owed me over a 1000 dollars. They have to pay you the same rate they charge I am going to put up another turbine with that money and keep adding on untill I have a steady check comeing in from them.
Its good for the enviroment and it sticks it to them.