That's right ATS.....we have failed!

What may amount to being the only chance we had at changing the way we live and govern ourselves is quickly fading into the history books as a mear footnote of tragedy.

Many of you tossed the Occupy movements to the side as a political inconvenience and ridiculed the people that were willing to take a stand on principle. These people didn't want to enact a liberal socialist regime that took away capitalism and individual freedoms! They wanted a small glimpse of hope that their future would be brighter than the inside of a corporate cubical or less depressing than an unemployment line.

But when the American people needed an intelligent group of people to help formulate ideas and actions that would be effective, we sat back and called them names; pointed fingers and grimiced at the thought of actually having to step away from our keyboards and put actions behind the very words spoken on this website. The collective knowledge we possess here would have been an invaluble asset to aid in the change we all know is needed.

We can talk about change, but it now will fall on the deaf ears of those that know we are all talk......no game. By our own inaction we have labeled ourselves hypocrits. We no longer have a leg to stand on as the opportunity to act has come, and is slowly passing into the folds of American history.

To those whom did and are taking a stand, I commend you.

To those who sat idly by afraid of dirty hippies and socialists: We could have used your help. You knowledge and insight would have been invaluble in a movement where all Americans needed to toss aside the petty differences and stood together as Americans......as humans.

But it looks as though we are going to fail. It looks as though the NWO police state is one step closer.

The fears of an entire country; better yet, an entire planet may come to fruition.

We should be ashamed of ourselves. We should have done more.

Intelligent people know better than to waste their time sitting around parks waiting for some miracle to occur.

Nothing will come of this event except 1000s of people with brand new arrest records. Wall Street remains unaffected. The banks remain unaffected.... besides BoA's withdrawn fees. That might have been the biggest accomplishment of this whole movement.... saving $5 per transaction. A victory, but not nearly the victory that they aimed for.

I think the failure started long before now. I'm thinking of the Tea Party. That was (is?) a citizen movement that wanted to clean up government, end the fed, and restore individual liberty. My quick use of the the search function shows that a lot of people on ATS mocked the Tea Party, had no use for it.

If one mocks a people's movement because they have ties to conservatives, one shouldn't be surprised when a people's movement with ties to liberals (actually pick a word a little further left than liberal) gets mocked.

ATS missed it's chance two years ago, not two months ago.

Originally posted by JibbyJedi
Intelligent people know better than to waste their time sitting around parks waiting for some miracle to occur.

Nothing will come of this event except 1000s of people with brand new arrest records. Wall Street remains unaffected. The banks remain unaffected.... besides BoA's withdrawn fees. That might have been the biggest accomplishment of this whole movement.... saving $5 per transaction. A victory, but not nearly the victory that they aimed for.

This is just the beginning, right now awareness is a reasonable gain.

The more people that become aware of the system and it's true goal, to keep everyone in chains, than the better off we will be.

You are right that we have not accomplished much yet, but the future still awaits.

We need to educate people to 'vote with their $$$' and stop putting $ into corporations that conduct business in questionable ways.

Who controls our government? The corporations. If we cut out their bottom line $ they will lose their clout slowly but surely.

Talking about change and supporting a movement are two separate things. If you have cancer you arent going to throw your life in the hands of the first guy who walks by and says I can cure that.

I think my biggest problem with OWS and its supporters is they assume that they speak for all of those who dont belong to the ultra rich. They are utterly dumbfounded when other middle and lower class people dont want to join them. As a movement it is something different I will give it that. However, just because you spout 99% doesnt mean you actually represent the 99%. I can walk around with a sign that says I am the Libyan resistance but that doesnt mean anyone over there wants or accepts my claim. I realize there is some diversity in OWS but I look at the photos and interviews from there and I cant say that I want many of those people representing me or my beliefs. I have a few people I know from grade school that have gotten really deep into this whole thing and when I look at their beliefs I'd run the other way. When I see OWS I dont see any real solutions other than rich people shouldnt have money and the protestors should get that money...or free education or free health care, etc. It seems to me to be the same message that fringe college students and their professors have been shouting since the 60's except now they say they represent us all. I see tons of filthy people who have ruined parks and caused disruptions for nothing. I see a bunch of people who like to compare themselves to the founding fathers but dont have any grasp on how bad things could be before there will be a popular rebellion. And most of all I see people who just like to protest. If we all threw our support behind OWS regardless of ideology then what. If we topple the govt then what, we face a civil war to see who is going to be in control and what ideas will be in power....yea I'm good on that

Wait, is this some kind of pathetic attempt to blame ATS members for the failures of the occupy movement?

Seriously?

You should blame the lack of vocal and very public leadership and clear message that would speak to and for ALL Americans.



By the way, today was for the most part peaceful, with some minor problems and a few arrests, I'd call that a success for everyone on all sides.