Originally posted by JoshNorton
If a flea jumped into the ocean, would the ocean be more full? Literally, yes. But in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really make a difference.

I did leave out the no-things (0 terms) that can move freely about on either side of the equation. They are unmanifest and infinite in number.

But, yes, if the ocean were ALL, the ocean would be more full thus something existed greater than ALL -- ALL + flea + whatever separated the two, which then must be ALL, roughly speaking.

Don't these people read the bible. Satan and Jesus are already acquainted. why the hell would Satan ask such a stupid question as to who is coming to stop him.

This is just silly.

Hmm, how do they "meet" with Satan?

They are actually in a room with him looking at him?

Is he some sort of spirit that somehow materializes in a physical form?

I don't get it. I guess it's possible though, anything is possible.

One thing that I find interesting is that the concept of "Satan" isn't just from Christianity, if I'm not mistaken other religions such as Islam speak of the same entity in their scriptures.

Satan said "Righteous One" about god?
satan would think HE is the Righteous One!!!

this is just a very good storie to get people to blindly follow jesus.
I hate the ending. any more?

Operating as an allegory, the G.o.E. story divulges the basic information needed to ascertain the reason for us being in the state we find ourselves in...basic, because, stripped of its snakes and satans et al...it describes an event in our far, far, far ancestral past where a simple error of judgement was made...our reincarnated souls/spirits (whatever you want to call the Me of Me), unable to come to terms with making that mistake, very early on...found a perfect scapegoat to blame our condition on...satan, devil, lucifer...whatever you want to call this created thought form...

Psychologically, attributing blame is a wholly convenient way of not taking responsibility...hence the continued debates over FREE WILL or no free will, and all the ridiculously overcomplicated and useless arguments against it...

We all just need a group hug and a cup of steaming hot chocolate...and to get over the...I'M A SINNER CRAP...

The world would be a much better place if everyone just took it upon themselves to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for your own predicament (vis a vis the aforementioned conditions we are in).

This...'I met satan' story is an absolute crock of yaks dags...

Comprend?

Akushla

Lucifer is old news. The real question is: When does he get to have a conference with the Tooth Fairy?

William Cooper said it best... "It's not what you believe, it's what they believe."

They being the Illuminati/ Bilderbergers/ NWO/ TPTB... At the top, the highest levels, they worship Satan or some pagan form there of... Baal, Molech, etc

So, I am a Christian... others here are not...so be it. Either way, these people do not have our best interest at heart. By means of skull dudgery, subterfuge, influence, political-economic-cultural-religious manipulation... they seek to rule us and enslave us.

This particular encounter sounds far fetched... maybe I am iggnorant or skeptical... but I have read other accounts that seemed far more convincing and more in line with the practices of powerful, elitists Satan worshipers.

To understand the means and motives of these elitists, you have to understand the multilpe layers of symbolism and spiritual powers and the means of summoning them.

One of the most memorable accounts is of the highest echelons of Nazi Germany anf the Thule Society and the Vrile Society meeting in a secret chamber with a female medium. There they stripped and participated in an orgy over and around her body, inside a circle marked with mystic, satanic, and pagan symbols... candles and rose petals and rose wood physically outlined the circle. The sexual orgy builds and expands the tension and power/ energy in the room.

As the controlled orgy results in simultanious orgasms, the energy peaks... chants calling upon Satan to manifest himself are spoken... all with in the circle are safe... the rosewood, petals, and inscrptions creating a refuge while Satan is manifested in the room. Then utter drear and darkness fall upon the room. Vapors eminate from the genetalia of the subject of the orgy, the medium and she speaks in a rasping and heavy voice... proclaiming the future, the next steps to be taken by his subjects to achieve goals and plans... and the rewards and consequences of success and failure... and his assurance they will all be aptly rewarded for their service. These sorts of ceremonies suppossedly occurred in the mid-1930s and continued in the SS castle that Himmler built... oddly enough, Hitler was not part of these ceremonies but actually a tool.. a pawn... of the secret societies.

These sorts of activities hint at Bohemian Grove or the movie "Eyes Wide Shut"...

Belive it or not.........

Sorry to be so skeptical but really? In Lagos? The scam capital of the world?

Did his meeting start with a letter on the lines of "Hello, I am a Nigerian General with millions i cannot access and would like you to help me for a cut of the money"?

As a sociological study this is fascinating, but presumes theological facts that are far from certain.

It's just a mish mash of Christian fear and acute paranoia.

I am always entertained by this, though.

I remember a wildly popular series of comics when I was a teen about all sorts of social stuff, that read much like this does.

One featured the Satanic knights known as Led Zepplin, the Devil's evil minions. I had never heard of them, and this comic was adamant about their Satanic affiliations, even printed the lyrics to 'Stairway to Heaven' and illustrated the devilish intent of the song.

The fear didn't stick, and in fact after listening to and really enjoying their music, they turned me on to English Paganism and Celtic traditions in ways I wouldn't have otherwise contemplated.

Plus, they rock.

Moral of the story is, that yes, this is a silly story but it may open someone's eyes to something meaningful inadvertently.

Here's hoping.

Interesting to see how some Nigerian con-artists are latching onto Christianity, just as some fake Indian gurus saw a ready market with the Western hippies in the 1970s.

sounds like Young Goodman Brown to me.. on acid.

just something some delusional pastor came up with to scare his flock of sheep into coming back next sunday... gotta get more and more sensational to compete with reality tv.

Originally posted by BohemianBrim
sounds like Young Goodman Brown to me.. on acid.

just something some delusional pastor came up with to scare his flock of sheep into coming back next sunday... gotta get more and more sensational to compete with reality tv.

edit on 22-11-2011 by BohemianBrim because: (no reason given)

Yeah of course he did! The only devil he encountered wash is own evils!!!!!

Originally posted by zarp3333
This strikes me as yet another piece of a much larger picture that if presented to me in it's entirety even a short time ago, would have bee dismissed out of hand as entirely ridiculous and a complete waste of time.

Today I am coming to believe how naieve my understanding of the dark side has been. All my life I have believed in a living God and Jesus Christ the Man. Satan was more of a fairy tale figure. I believed that those who professed to serve him were made up mostly of misguided teenage "goths" and social outcasts.

Through my research on ATS, coast to coast and the Internet I am realizing there are truly very powerful men and women who are members of secret organizations with abilities that are inexplicable by any scientific means. Just the other night on C2C for instance, they spoke about the Dulce base where eyewitnesses purported seeing cows with human heAds and high-tech labs run by grays and other dimensional beings.

Could this truly be the end times as prophesied by the Bible? As hard as it is to wrap my head around the concept, it is becoming increasingly difficult to dismiss these claims as the rantings of overzealous right wing Christians.

I have seen with my own eyes shadow beings that brought immediate and overwhelming sensations of pure evil. I have met powerful men working for agencies of our govt that I know intuit to be more than creepy but perverted in a fashion that makes me shudder.

I wish I could put these feelings into words. I feel as if I have just been woken by a telephone call in the dead of night and I am attempting to pretend the caller did not just wake me up as I try to explain a very technical process while still half asleep and disoriented. That's the best analogy I can come up with.

Just today on Morning Joe, the entire set was interrogating some poor representative of the Iranian govt. When I looked at Brizinski, she could not contain her obvious hatred for that man. Nor could the representative from the Council on Foriegn Relations. That pysch job was so busy trying to peddle his psyop propaganda on why millions of iranians must be incinerated that I fully expected him to morph into a lizard and tear the Iranian into pieces and consume his flesh on live television.

Am I going mad or is this part of the great awakening I've been hearing so much about?

(I wish I could put these feelings into words. I feel as if I have just been woken by a telephone call in the dead of night and I am attempting to pretend the caller did not just wake me up as I try to explain a very technical process while still half asleep and disoriented. That's the best analogy I can come up with.)

I know what you mean. It's inarticulable, but something's going on. I feel it too. To me it's like the separation between dark and light is melting and things that were suppressed are rising up, but a lot of people act like they don't notice, like the world is the same as it ever was, but it isn't.