At Least 9 Ships Near BP's Macondo Well (yes...THAT Well)

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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 11:44 AM
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Is there any truth that people have gone missing over this? There was this article about at least 10 people involved in BP-whistleblowing being unaccounted for. Is there something we are not being told about the spill? If the salt-theory is correct, it might be that it's not possible to extract oil from that area without comprimising the enviroment. And, it might be that this oil is needed to avoid a huge upturn in oil-prices in the future? Maybe that is the real secret? I thought this was a dead story, maybe it's something we all missed?

theintelhub.com...




posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 12:31 PM
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Yes, it's true that some people who spoke out about a coverup of a very dangerous situation either died or had some other event happen to them..... these were the ones trying to say that things were being kept from the public ...Matt Simmons being one of them.

www.examiner.com...


BK Lim, another outspoken person who is a geohazard specialist who has worked in the oil industry, has HAD assaination attempts, according to him....

oilandgasleaks.wordpress.com...


and some more....
laudyms.wordpress.com...

Not saying all this is fact, HOWEVER....it seems odd that those trying to speak out and expose lies suddenly die or have close calls. Just posting what is already out there.
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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 12:40 PM
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No, this isn’t a post from last year. Oil from the Macondo Well site is fouling the Gulf anew – and BP is scrambling to contain both the crude and the PR nightmare that waits in the wings. Reliable sources tell us that BP has hired 40 boats from Venice to Grand Isle to lay boom around the Deepwater Horizon site – located just 50 miles off the Louisiana coast. The fleet rushed to the scene late last week and worked through the weekend to contain what was becoming a massive slick at the site of the Macondo wellhead, which was officially “killed” back in September 2010.


www.washingtonsblog.com... -the-work-bp-did-during-its-failed-attempts-to-cap-the-runaway-macondo-well.html



Seafood Surprise: Eyeless Shrimp, Crabs with Lesions – and Bigger Final Settlement Offers from BP


www.stuarthsmith.com...

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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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Wow,Kat,nice find!
So that crater ,has the seafloor collapsed due to the sudden release of oil that oil?



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 03:32 PM
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That crater has been there since right before they cut the feeds.....it was very close to the well.It was an explosive event which caused it. The sea floor has not collapsed, but the fear is that these cracks and gouges in the seafloor are going to keep getting bigger as the oil comes out with such force. (Not that it is gushing with great force at this moment. but over time, the "seeps" will erode the fissures allowing more oil and gas to come out at greater force, making the fissure larger, and so increases and increases over time) I came across so many of the blowout craters, back then. I wish we could see down there now....I don't mean BP's video....just an independant ROV to go all over the area....not just selective sites.
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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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Here Kdog....this is from BK's article, where he explains the crater.... here is the page it came from....it's very interesting.
bklim.newsvine.com...

Here's the close up pic of a blowout crater with notes




posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 04:07 PM
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We can only hope that there is no frozen methane down there.


News reports of the failed attempt to contain the oil-spewing equipment on the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico have referred obliquely to things like "ice crystals" or an "icy slush" clogging the hardware that was intended to cap the leak. Anyone who is paying attention would recognize that there's a bit of a problem here, in that, even at the temperatures and pressures of the ocean at the site, the water there is very much in its liquid phase, as are the hydrocarbons that are spewing through the leak. The methane that caused the original explosion remains gaseous down to -161°C. The "ice" that's forming is actually a solidified mixture of methane and water called a clathrate. Clathrates have also been in the news because of a potential role in climate change, so it seems like an opportune time to explain what they are.


arstechnica.com...

Because a huge release of methane could be a very dangerous tipping point in the climate change scenario,like very bad.


Methane is considered to be a more potent greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide. It only stays in the atmosphere for a few years on average, but the majority is removed by oxidation, which converts it into carbon dioxide. So there's a chance that clathrates could accelerate and/or enhance any climate change induced by high levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide.


It could be considered an ELE if it was large enough.


Clathrates are composites in which a lattice of one substance forms a cage around another. Methane clathrates (in which water molecules are the cage) form on continental shelves. These clathrates are likely to break up rapidly and release the methane if the temperature rises quickly or the pressure on them drops quickly—for example in response to sudden global warming or a sudden drop in sea level or even earthquakes. Methane is a much more powerful greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide, so a methane eruption ("clathrate gun") could cause rapid global warming or make it much more severe if the eruption was itself caused by global warming. The most likely signature of such a methane eruption would be a sudden decrease in the ratio of carbon-13 to carbon-12 in sediments, since methane clathrates are low in carbon-13; but the change would have to be very large, as other events can also reduce the percentage of carbon-13.[53] It has been suggested that "clathrate gun" methane eruptions were involved in the end-Permian extinction ("the Great Dying") and in the Paleocene–Eocene Thermal Maximum, which was associated with one of the smaller mass extinctions.

en.wikipedia.org...

But,I doubt it would be that big.
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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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You got that right! That's why I said the methane worries me more than the oil.....did you see the video I posted on page 2....*shiver*. It probably would never get to that point, you're right, but I remember watching those semi frozen "white shrimp" looking methane chunks and being scared to death....oh wait.....here's a video of it. These white chunks baffled us because they looked like white shrimp like creatures (they really look alive)....but we had an expert tell us that these were methane in a semi frozen state....as in between frozen and melted....scary. If you watch in large screen, you can see black oil coming from the ground in the center. This was somewhat off topic, but I wanted to show how it was THEN....who knows how it looks down there now?? This is the only video I could find right now, but this was a small amount compared to what I saw before...I'm looking for the best one to show you....you won't believe your eyes!

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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 06:38 PM
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What the heck was that????
It was living creatures,thats for sure.
Well,with all those chemicals they dumped to disperse the oil,ain't no telling.

How are those folks doing after being exposed to all that coextent and stuff?



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 07:10 PM
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I don't know if it's been scientifically proven, but there are many who claim they are sick because of it, and there have been some deaths. I personally don't know anyone....but I am sure there are.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 07:29 PM
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I did a thread on it here awhile back.
Let me see if I can find it.


Search youtube for Kindra Arnesen,she descibes it as a soft kill bio weapon!


Kindra,now I remember,it was before the disaster in Japan.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


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You have heard of her,haven't you Kat?
This is in your own back yard.
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posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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Yes....I couldn't think of her name...thanks! The lady of I was thinking of has actually died...I've been trying to find the video.



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 02:23 PM
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You may want to revisit this thread:

Gulf spill: is the methane a bigger problem than the oil?

It has many useful links concerning the methane, the amounts released, and potential consequences thereof.

From the very beginning the methane worried me more than the oil did, and it still does.

I keep coming back to the fact that they are drilling through a salt dome that contains the oil and methane under pressure, and that salt dissolves in water.

Again, how many holes can you drill in a salt dome before it loses its integrity and collapses?



posted on Dec, 6 2011 @ 03:42 PM
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Thanks ApacheMan....I'm going to read it again. You know, it is next to impossible to get info anymore. I just got a chance to sit down here and I am about to try to get ship info again. It was blacked out yesterday *sigh*....if I find anything new, I'll post it here.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 01:13 AM
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Why no more news since Nov 24th on BP well releak. Someone knows what they are finding.



Since BP confirmed on Nov. 24th that there were new "natural seeps" rising from seafloor to surface, we have not heard any further words. No ROV shots, no overflights, nothing.

These 'seeps' were not there last year. Only one small one found in the initial sea floor survey before Macondo was drilled.

These new seeps will not get smaller, but larger and larger until the field pressure equalizes with the water pressure. Should the gas reach the surface in sufficient concentration there will be at least a fire, if not an explosion. The Deepwater Horizon explosion is a small example of that process.

Does anyone know what happens to these water gas 'snowflakes' when the gas/oil from the seeps starts geysering as the fissures are worn bigger? At what water temperature/pressure does the gas stay gas and not form a sludge, instead rising bubbles? From Wikipedia on methane clathrates "since methane hydrates cannot form, initially, in salt water.". They are by mass .9 cm3 = less dense than water = float. They explosively decompress when pressure decreases fast and temperature rises.

In short, don't live near the Gulf Coast if you can avoid it.



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posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 07:25 AM
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Kdog....they do look alive, but they are actually peices of semi frozen methane.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 07:28 AM
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It's very concerning. I posted a video from the history channel showing what could happen if there were a methane explosion a few pages back......the video is showing a "mega disaster", so it may be a little exaggerated, but it is a potential danger to be sure. Since I started this thread, the "marinetraffic.com" site had the area I was looking at blocked out. I have been checking every day. As soon as I get any more info, I'll post it.



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by StealthyKat
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Yes....I couldn't think of her name...thanks! The lady of I was thinking of has actually died...I've been trying to find the video.

Is the one you are thinking of Lisa Nelson? There was a thread here on ATS when she passed.
BREAKING : Lisa Nelson COREXIT BP OIL Spill Victim DIED On March 7, 2011

Here the video from the OP.


OiO



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by apacheman
How many holes can you drill through a salt cap before it loses its integrity and collapses?

I've been keeping an eye on this ever since it started.


Your post reminds me of the Lake Peigneur sinkhole disaster




posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 12:14 PM
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Yes...that's her...so sad. It's unbelievable how much her physical appearance changed....RIP Lisa.





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