I Don't Have A Disorder... According To This. You Do!

I can't help but sigh at the fact that people still take these prescription drugs,
With crap side effects, and damaging effects on the body..

When we have natural plants and substances that would do it better without the negative effects.

How many things do those pharma commercials state? There's a list of at least 10 or more side effects to some of these drugs, which most of the time, are worse than what you have. I swear one of the side effects to one i saw on tv was "Suicidal thoughts, or actions" ... Uh..

? Mind control much?

while autism is apparently a variation of brain development oriented around the language processing clusters, ADHD is more likely a side effect of the change in pace of media such as television and movies, combined with internet access and the concentration of sugars in foods containing chemicals such as High Fructose Corn Syrup. The combination of these three sources - media, net, and food - combined with a constant sense of danger of terrorism is likely to produce a variety of neurotic habits.Children are also less disciplined in many homes as families fear losing their children for abuse or fear being inhuman for chastising their children. Yet you may find children raised without overexposure to these forces have no such symptoms such as the desire for constant instant gratification.

Attention: Do you have fingernails? Do you generally drink water? You may have a serious life-threatening disease. Call us now.

reply to post by NoRegretsEver


I'm thinking that some of those new diseases where actually side effects created by farmasudical (sp?) companies and other drugs.

Take that "Skin Picking Disorder".
Honestly, did this exist before meth?

Delusional delusion disorder

Paranoid paraphenalia disorder

Disorganised date disorder

Army "do I have to follow?" disorder

Recorder disorder

Mexican border disorder

ATS disorder

Disorder disorder

Originally posted by ILikeStars
reply to post by NoRegretsEver

 

I'm thinking that some of those new diseases where actually side effects created by farmasudical (sp?) companies and other drugs.

Take that "Skin Picking Disorder".
Honestly, did this exist before meth?

What about 'picking other peoples skin disorder'

Maybe no-one actually has a disorder.

Maybe the world is just so #ed up that our minds can't handle it anymore!

reply to post by Amanda5

I haven't seen "The Wayseer Manifesto". I'll check it out. "Psychiatry; An Industry of Death" is very difficult to watch. I have a psychologist friend who bought a bunch of the DVDs and gave me one. It's shocking information!

reply to post by daggyz


Why aren't you the psychiatrist?
You made me laugh out loud.
Thank you thank you thank you .
Better than medication.

Seriously - laughter helps the parasympathetic system.
So thanks for helping my 'system'.

Please please write some more - sooooo funnny!

Much Peace...

reply to post by RainbeauBleu


Wayseer Manifesto is a music/philosophy video clip.
Only ten minutes long.
I have started using it in the classroom - it has so many dimensions - art, history, philosophy, science etc...

I find it inspiring so I hope you do too!
The reference to disorders is sooooo on the mark!

Much Peace...

What a lot of you lay people are doing in mocking these illnesses is misconstruing what the information really means. The characteristics that describe an illness someone may have do sound ordinary and ridiculous to you, however, what you fail to understand is that mental health professionals do not interpret the symptoms the same way you do. For example, lets take social anxiety for example. A lay person would look at these characteristics and just say "oh they are just shy, they need to build up confidence, etc" However, a professional would look at the criteria and base their diagnosis on the severity and recurrence of said symptoms. They would need to be seeing the patient for a reasonable amount of time to make that diagnosis.

Also, not all mental health treatments lead to the use of drugs. Most counselors actually prefer to have people work through their issues and attack the root of the problem. Sometimes they refer them to a psychiatrist for short term medication and sometimes the patient cannot overcome their issues and become dependent on the medication. Patients who have a chemical issue in the brain usually cannot overcome their problems through will power. And yes there are herbal alternatives but it is up to the person to seek it out.

What a lot of you are doing in this thread is looking at random criteria and say "oh look I must have this LOL." This is a lot like when people go on webmd to try to self diagnose instead of going to see a doctor. Leave it up to the professionals a lot of you have no clue what you are talking out. All of this is not just about "mothers little helper."

reply to post by Destinyone


yep that's why I refuse to take medicine of any kind (unless I really really need it!)
ever watch the commercials
'may cause pain, itching, heart-attack, stroke, Death'
I have yet To see a pill who's side effects are better than just toughing it out.....
hmmmm....sleep more or potentially death....think ill stay awake for now :-)

reply to post by acmpnsfal


When you have a Student (a Child) tell you that they stopped taking their medication because they did not like what it did to them - you know something is wrong. The Student did not want to feel sleepy all the time.

I said to the Student - Good for you.
Not because I am disrespecting the art and science of healing and medicine but because the Student knows his body.

Psychiatrists are gaining way too much authority over peoples behaviours. Watch Psychiatry:Industry of Death and then come back to this thread and make your comments. Plenty of people are being drugged without proper need. Let's take money out of healing and medicine and start this conversation again.

There is a lot of money to be made by the pharmaceutical companies and also the specialists who prescribe.
Money should never be a part of healing and medicine. Money does harm and I thought doctors were taught to - Do No Harm.

Much Peace...while we keep learning ...

Originally posted by acmpnsfal
Leave it up to the professionals a lot of you have no clue what you are talking out.

WOAH, who are the professionals? That's just it, people think that if someone is a professional they know what they're talking about so they you the sense that they're true and genuine. There's no real way to determine whether or not someone is a professional at least how I see, since the information we have is bound to change and we're always finding other ways of dealing with things. No one can be a true professional since we know very little about ourselves, how the planet or universe works and such. Point is, someone can claim to be a professional and support something lucrative, after all the world RUNS ON MONEY. Don't think just because they're a professional that they actually know what's best.

reply to post by acmpnsfal


It is not a laughing matter, however; I think we are laughing at the way its going in the world. as I said in an earlier reply, IMO 9 out of 10 disorders could be remedied over time if people wouldn't give up so quickly on others, Its all about LOVE, and caring for others, I myself found that I gave up dozens of meds over the years when I became close to a love support network (friends, family, strangers, etc..)

Reaching for help, and grabbing them and not letting go. The world today is sick with greed and very selfish, putting everyone around them at great lengths and great harm. We need to be there for each other, the "disconnectedness" in the world is to blame for all these disorders, if this was done, only the most difficult disorders would be an issue, then more efforts in a positive manner could affect and produce a solution based world in disorders, and save those who really need help.

GIVE LOVE, NOT PILLS

LISTEN MORE, LESS PRESCRIBING

Much Love

I'm prescribed adderall.

Yell at me

I studied some psychology, and I've seen one too many people start anti-depressants or just about any other "medicine" and fall into some spiral of misery often ending in one hospital, or the other. Over and over. I will never willingly talk to a Councillor or shrink, and if I were for some reason forced to, I will not be honest in the least.

I think the shrinks are the crazy people supporting their crap on the people. For every "helping" gesture, there's a closet full of bodies and caused insanity.

I think some of these so called disorders are actually medical conditions that are going unchecked. A hormone imbalance can cause mood swings, anxiety, and so on.

I saw two doctors just last week, one dr. said I had an anxiety problem and needed to be put on anti-depressant....I got another opinion....2nd dr. says, based on your family history and your symptoms, let’s do a blood test....Holy smokes your thyroid is off the charts, you need to be treated right away!

Needless to say, I could have very well believed the 1st doctor and gone for years not knowing that I had Hypothyroidism, which causes even more problems if you go too long un-treated. I hate taking meds, but there just some things in life you have to do to survive, and this is one of them. Having Hypothyroidism can kill you, and that’s enough for me. Now the 2nd dr. and I are looking into the possibility that my heart condition was caused by having this Hypothyroidism long enough to have caused heart damage…

I want to punch that 1st dr. for just brushing me off as a nut case and trying to shove happy pills down my throat instead of taking any time to look into my medical problems. The worst part is, is that this is happening every day and people just going with it instead of looking into other options.

** Also, my mother is a hoarder and NO amount of medication could fix that for her. A lot of hoarding is due to pent up personal issues, not mental problems.

I think there are times when a person DOES have a serious mental condition and NEEDS medication, but I fear that some doctors have begun overprescribing. Not that it's always the doctors' fault. After all, there are the occasions where patients self-diagnose and then convince their doctor that they need medication. Anybody know what MOST psychologists and/or psychiatrists look for before prescribing medication?

Originally posted by daggyz

Originally posted by ILikeStars

Take that "Skin Picking Disorder".
Honestly, did this exist before meth?

What about 'picking other peoples skin disorder'

Hi daggyz.
I don't think it was listed as 'picking other peoples skin disorder'.
Reference: In the Opening Post to this thread the second quote from the OP, 4th from top is:
"Skin Picking Disorder" .... which reminded me of the drug meth. But after more research I see it is sometimes also considered a kind of OCD.

Drug Addiction : How to Spot a Meth Addict


That is what I was refereing to daggyz.