One in four American women take medication for a mental disorder, page 2

Wow! That's a pity...this thread had the potential to roll out to be a pretty interesting discussion and has instead become a slagging match between the sexes.

I suppose with the hormonal roller coaster women go thru until their late 40's to early 50's it's hardly surprising women are more often prescribed anti-depressant/anxiety meds than men but don't be getting too complacent guys.

The company said women are twice as likely as men to use anxiety treatments, as 11 percent of women 45 to 65 are on an anxiety medication. Women are also more likely than men to take antipsychotic drugs like Zyprexa, Risperdal, and Abilify, which treat disorders like bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. However, among men 20 to 64, use of the drugs has quadrupled over the last decade............

........Pharmaceutical companies have also sought and received approvals to market their drugs to larger groups of people.

The Washington Post

The reason for this increase in drug taking is because we're all mad???? Or is it because the 'solution' in fact creates the problem?

A century ago, fewer than two people per 1,000 were considered to be "disabled" by mental illness and in need of hospitalisation . By 1955, that number had jumped to 3 .38 people per 1,000, and during the past 50 years, a period when psychiatric drugs have been the cornerstone of care, the disability rate has climbed steadily, and has now reached around 20 people per 1,000. (Table 2) . As with any epidemic, one would suspect that an outside agent of some type-a virus, a bacterial infection, or an environmental toxinwas causing this rise in illness .

That is indeed the case here . There is an outside agent fueling this epidemic of mental illness, only it is to be found in the medicine cabinet . Psychiatric drugs perturb normal neurotransmitter function, and while that perturbation may curb symptoms over a short term, over the long run it increases the likelihood that a
person will become chronically ill, or ill with new and more severe symptoms . A review
of the scientific literature shows quite clearly that it is our drug-based paradigm of care
that is fueling this modem-day plague.

Anatomy of an Epidemic

So rather than fix the broken society we 'fix' the broken population....we're only a symptom. Why not treat the cause?

Now - what about the children?

reply to post by christina-66

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So rather than fix the broken society we 'fix' the broken population....we're only a symptom. Why not treat the cause?

Now - what about the children?

How many people today that are adults with these "problems" had Ritalin treatments when they were children?

We need to compare.

The Ritalin treatments are a product of Parental ignorance and wild assumptions by non medical people in the school systems.

How many decision making politicians are on "medications" ?

Oh wait, I forgot, all that is "private" and "confidential" of course.

reply to post by Suspiria

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They just got on with it. Or drank copious amounts of gin.

Was scrolling down, hoping for a chance at a smartass comment. You smacked it out of the ballpark. For all anti Americans a ball park is a place where we play the game of oewifnaoeifnawoecn. It's Canadian, but we want to blur that border.

Originally posted by christina-66
Wow! That's a pity...this thread had the potential to roll out to be a pretty interesting discussion and has instead become a slagging match between the sexes.

I suppose with the hormonal roller coaster women go thru until their late 40's to early 50's it's hardly surprising women are more often prescribed anti-depressant/anxiety meds than men but don't be getting too complacent guys.

The company said women are twice as likely as men to use anxiety treatments, as 11 percent of women 45 to 65 are on an anxiety medication. Women are also more likely than men to take antipsychotic drugs like Zyprexa, Risperdal, and Abilify, which treat disorders like bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. However, among men 20 to 64, use of the drugs has quadrupled over the last decade............

........Pharmaceutical companies have also sought and received approvals to market their drugs to larger groups of people.

The Washington Post

The reason for this increase in drug taking is because we're all mad???? Or is it because the 'solution' in fact creates the problem?

A century ago, fewer than two people per 1,000 were considered to be "disabled" by mental illness and in need of hospitalisation . By 1955, that number had jumped to 3 .38 people per 1,000, and during the past 50 years, a period when psychiatric drugs have been the cornerstone of care, the disability rate has climbed steadily, and has now reached around 20 people per 1,000. (Table 2) . As with any epidemic, one would suspect that an outside agent of some type-a virus, a bacterial infection, or an environmental toxinwas causing this rise in illness .

That is indeed the case here . There is an outside agent fueling this epidemic of mental illness, only it is to be found in the medicine cabinet . Psychiatric drugs perturb normal neurotransmitter function, and while that perturbation may curb symptoms over a short term, over the long run it increases the likelihood that a
person will become chronically ill, or ill with new and more severe symptoms . A review
of the scientific literature shows quite clearly that it is our drug-based paradigm of care
that is fueling this modem-day plague.

Anatomy of an Epidemic

So rather than fix the broken society we 'fix' the broken population....we're only a symptom. Why not treat the cause?

Now - what about the children?

edit on 18-11-2011 by christina-66 because: (no reason given)

Psychiatric drugs perturb normal neurotransmitter function, and while that perturbation may curb symptoms over a short term, over the long run it increases the likelihood that a
person will become chronically ill, or ill with new and more severe symptoms . A review
of the scientific literature shows quite clearly that it is our drug-based paradigm of care
that is fueling this modem-day plague.

This says it all.

And, many times, a person with very mild symtoms, or a patient "acting" out the symptoms will be prescribed a full dose by doctors.

That will soon enough cause a full blown case to display itself.

I wonder too, how many "patients" are current or former illegal drug users/abusers ?

I also wonder if any drugs (legal or illegal) can cause a DNA change that carries on to offspring ?

If Ritalin causes DNA changes, then how many children of Ritalin users are affected ?

Interesting how that article ties in with SSI disability PAYMENTS.

I would imagine that those "recipients" must maintain regular doctor visits and certifications (all for a fee of course). Hmmmmm.

reply to post by aeriess

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Any depression I ever get I can usually shake it off in a few days.
The best medication for depression is going on a shopping spree
with your husband's favorite credit card.

reply to post by Vitchilo

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reply to post by xuenchen

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This says it all.

And, many times, a person with very mild symtoms, or a patient "acting" out the symptoms will be prescribed a full dose by doctors.

That will soon enough cause a full blown case to display itself.

I wonder too, how many "patients" are current or former illegal drug users/abusers ?

I also wonder if any drugs (legal or illegal) can cause a DNA change that carries on to offspring ?

If Ritalin causes DNA changes, then how many children of Ritalin users are affected ?

Interesting how that article ties in with SSI disability PAYMENTS.

I would imagine that those "recipients" must maintain regular doctor visits and certifications (all for a fee of course). Hmmmmm.

I can't answer all of your questions....I don't think anyone can. Because the industry ensures it never asks the questions of itself. I don't know about you but I'm getting a bit sick of this whole 'plausible deniability' tactic.

Some years ago I was seeking out statistics on the success or otherwise of the psychiatric system and treatments in my area. Initially I had 12 pretty simple questions about two commonly prescribed meds. One an anti-psychotic and the other side effect treatment often prescribed along side it. I was being passed from pillar to post on the telephone....one pillar on my journey was the pharmacist at the local psychiatric unit. He was able to answer about 5 of my 12 questions.

These were simple questions....e.g. long and short term side effects when administered orally or when administered by injection. Withdrawal periods over the long and short term. Any additional side effects caused by the interplay of the two meds. The side effects of the side effect meds etc.

Eventually I was put on to the statistics department of the NHS. I asked them about available data on the costs and success of psychiatric meds and treatments...with some hard figures e.g. number of suicides in hospitals or shortly after discharge etc.

The statistics department said they had no figures. When I asked why not they explained that no-one was asking for them. Long story short - I said that I was asking for them. Well....I found one very bored govt. dept. who were only to happy to oblige. What they produced did not make for a pleasant read and the money involved would make your eyes water....their figures are well out-dated now. This was 10 years ago.

Psychiatry is a racket like everything else these days....a huge money making scheme that has added benefits for the government of the day....a compliant and docile population.

Originally posted by CaptChaos

Originally posted by capone1

Originally posted by Domo1
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I certainly do think that drugs help many people, I just worry that we are becoming far to over medicated as a society. Of course someone with a serious problem will benefit greatly from drugs in many cases, but giving someone with a bad case of the Mondays a prescription seems a bit much.

You're absolutely right. Sooner or later we may evolve to depend on chemicals.

But... There is a BIG difference between, let's say painkillers..and Celexa.

Painkillers can easily be abused, as we all know. But brain drugs like Celexa can literally fix the amount of "happy" chemicals you don't get anymore. And I call those drugs a miracle.
But drugs people can abuse, like painkillers, sedatives, etc., need to be controlled a bit more.

edit on 17-11-2011 by capone1 because: (no reason given)

You who think all this drugging everyone up starting at age 5 is GOOD in any way, are obviously ON DRUGS. You are so taken by the propaganda I can't believe it. Complete Stockholm syndrome, you are thanking your poisoners for poisoning you.

Every time I go to the US and see the nonstop drug ads on TV I am horrified. Everyone else seems to not even notice. Or rather, you DO notice, and go out and let quacks drug you and your children up.

Somehow, for all of history, the entire population of the world has managed to muddle through without popping freaking pills every day. How could that be? Why weren't ONE QUARTER of them just freaking right out, since they did not have any pills? Oh wait, I guess in China during the Opium Wars and all, a lot of people were on drugs. Look how that HELPED them all out. At least they felt good about it.

And, wait a minute. Who was responsible for purposely drugging an entire nation in order to make tons of money and enslave the people? Hmmm.

Couldn't be sort of the same cast of characters, could it? Naah, it's their grandchildren. They are here to HELP you.

When did I talk about age 5? And you are ignorant to believe the whole med industry is bad. I'm related to someone who suffers from bi-polar disorder, ADD, and depression. With medication, he can live a somewhat normal life.
These RX's can be a miracle for a lot of people.

Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by aeriess

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Any depression I ever get I can usually shake it off in a few days.
The best medication for depression is going on a shopping spree
with your husband's favorite credit card.

edit on 18-11-2011 by mamabeth because: changed mind

That's not depression. That's sadness. You'll know if you're depressed.

reply to post by Domo1

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Women are crazy. Ask any women. They will tell you they are crazy. They get jealous over every other female and hold life long grudges for some of the stupidest stuff ever known to mankind.

that being said....I love women....they are awesome...but they just are too into themselves sometimes to realize the crazy stuff they do.

And that is why ( to all women here ) , that when we ( men ) actually find a women who isn't crazy and has a cool personality and is easy to get along with, we value that as much as beauty.

Why is it that women can't control themselves and feel the need to talk bad about some other women.....It always happens...not sure why, but even my mom admitted it the other day.

Originally posted by aeriess
reply to post by slowisfast

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I'm not married. I was.
Find me a guy who has NEVER cheated. I certainly don't know a single one. Family, friends, parents of friends growing up, etc. Not one.

Yea but i've noticed that women or men who have been cheated on tend to keep finding the same type of cheating person weather they know it or not. maybe it's subconscience but i know plenty of guys that don't cheat.

I am finding out more and more how unfaithful women are though. Thought it was only a guy thing.

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