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How naive can you be? If it were possible to harness free energy with a machine that could be placed in any home, there's no way they can charge you for it. They would make profit from selling the machine, but people will only need to buy one, then they would have unlimited free energy (until the machine breaks and needs to be repaired).
The oil business will lose a massive amount of profit if free energy were to hit the market, a large percentage of my income is spent on energy bills. The energy business is probably one of the most profitable businesses in the world. Free energy is the number one thing they fear, they will fight tooth and nail to hold onto their monopoly. So much of our oil is wasted on producing energy, when it should be openly used to make plastics and stuff like that. Once it runs dry there's going to be serious problems unless we develop some really good synthetic oils.
I never said anything about "absolute zero", you are the one talking about temperature and matter when it has nothing to do with vacuum energy. We are talking about the zero-point state of space-time. Zero-point energy is the energy that still exists in a system even at the most basic ground state (empty motionless space-time in this case).
They are called virtual particles, and they are actually the very essence of vacuum energy.
Actually, Zero-point energy is defined as the energy that still exists in a system even after it has been reduced to an absolute 'static' state.
How could they honestly sell something that comes completely free (except the cost of the machinery)? It would be almost worthless, and it would probably cost more to maintain the power stations than the return they would get from selling energy that is virtually free. And why would we even bother with a grid anymore? Power stations are only so huge because they require hundreds of generators or nuclear reactors to power massive areas. Zero-point energy machines can be tiny, and they need only be powerful enough to power a single home. It's absolutely practical in every sense, and it strikes fear into the heart of the grid overlords.
If you had an energy bill at all (I'm not convinced an at-home power plant would be all that popular, or practical with such a technological implement... it may just be that it requires too much space to be practical for single homes, or even small neighborhoods) - it would still have to cover maintenance of the infrastructure (power companies would love to cut the costs of fuel out of the equation, and their insurance would go down considerably if they weren't having to manage the chaos of fire 24/7).
Well it might be possible to design batteries that are made to extract ZPE, John Hutchison claimed to invent a crystal like material which was at natural resonance with the ZPE field and would naturally produce energy when attached to a circuit. So basically a never ending battery.
Energy storage systems are and will be a large part of the future - regardless of what happens. You will always need a 'battery' that can store a lot of energy and provide power to a wide range of devices (and that won't set you on fire in the process). Free energy will not change that.
They don't want to adapt to a change, they want to suppress the change as long as they possibly can. The energy business is ridiculously profitable, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind they would want to perpetuate it at all costs, it's clearly the number one tool they have for controlling populations, to decide who gets energy and who doesn't, who will pay more and who will pay less. I'm done explaining this, it's clear you can't grasp the importance of the energy industry.
Even if free energy were to be 'discovered,' packaged, and ready to sell tomorrow - it would be a decade or more before we would be seeing Oil really start to be supplanted in the market.
That is plenty of time to adapt and address the changing market.
We are talking scientifically here, not philosophically pal.
They are called virtual particles, and they are actually the very essence of vacuum energy.
Well, if you want to pick a philosophical battle - all particles are virtual.
Now you've just proven that you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about. You're just confusing yourself now. ZPE is energy, it's the energy that STILL exists even after a system has been reduced to the ground state. Vacuum energy IS a type of zero-point energy, I could not make this any clearer, I've provided all the info to clearly prove this FACT! Here it is again:
Actually, Zero-point energy is defined as the energy that still exists in a system even after it has been reduced to an absolute 'static' state.
That's Vacuum Energy.
The Zero point cannot contain any energy - at least, not any that we can actually utilize. It's not a Zero point if it isn't at zero.
Now the part I have underlined is a link which takes you to the page about vacuum energy, which states the following:
Zero-point energy is the lowest possible energy that a quantum mechanical physical system may have; it is the energy of its ground state. All quantum mechanical systems undergo fluctuations even in their ground state and have an associated zero-point energy, a consequence of their wave-like nature. The uncertainty principle requires every physical system to have a zero-point energy greater than the minimum of its classical potential well, even at absolute zero. For example, liquid helium does not freeze under atmospheric pressure at any temperature because of its zero-point energy.
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Vacuum energy is the zero-point energy of all the fields in space, which in the Standard Model includes the electromagnetic field, other gauge fields, fermionic fields, and the Higgs field. It is the energy of the vacuum, which in quantum field theory is defined not as empty space but as the ground state of the fields. In cosmology, the vacuum energy is one possible explanation for the cosmological constant.[3]
Zero-point Energy - Wikipedia
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Vacuum energy is an underlying background energy that exists in space even when the space is devoid of matter (free space). The concept of vacuum energy has been deduced from the concept of virtual particles, which is itself derived from the energy-time uncertainty principle.
Vacuum Energy - Wikipedia
I would argue many devices have in fact been developed but they were suppressed.
Even so, if it were real they'd have made something by now.
That doesn't negate the fact that it's virtually impossible to operate an outside business from inside prison.
Prison is like, where you can choose to dedicate your life to knowledge and work rather than other problems in life. It's essentially a monk existence.
That's an illogical absolute statement based on what you think you know.
Simply put, you can't suppress it.
That doesn't negate the fact that it's virtually impossible to operate an outside business from inside prison.
Prison is like, where you can choose to dedicate your life to knowledge and work rather than other problems in life. It's essentially a monk existence.
Maybe it will, maybe it wont. But at the rate we are going it doesn't matter either way. We need to stop destroying this planet for resources.
Originally posted by K1771gnorance
Free energy will be the worst thing to ever happen to humanity. It will destroy us all.
Illegal business can sometimes be operated by people in prison, but that's completely different from doing legit trade. And once a person has been to jail, they typically must seek court permission if they want to be a CEO or manager.
Originally posted by sapien82
That doesn't negate the fact that it's virtually impossible to operate an outside business from inside prison.
Prison is like, where you can choose to dedicate your life to knowledge and work rather than other problems in life. It's essentially a monk existence.
The mafia seemed to have no problems operating many businesses from inside a jail cell!
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by Gorman91
That's an illogical absolute statement based on what you think you know.
Simply put, you can't suppress it.
First of all, you are assuming that some of the online plans are real, when maybe all the real plans have actually been suppressed. But I don't really believe that, I would have to agree with you that real plans do exist on the internet, I've never really had a good look, but I did I spend a few hours looking around a while ago, but many of them were beyond my knowledge to make or outside of my budget. I presume that's a very big reason why many people haven't built these things, and also because most people naturally assume it simply doesn't work.
Originally posted by john_bmth
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by Gorman91
That's an illogical absolute statement based on what you think you know.
Simply put, you can't suppress it.
See the thread in my sig. I give an example of "something for nothing" that spread like wildfire from the underground electronics niche to the mainstream before it was shut down. All these so-called "free energy" devices that can be built buy watching youtube vids yet no one who believes in them has actually built one?