Aureum Chaos (Mars) Can anyone explain these photos?

Aureum Chaos is located in the eastern part of Valles Marineris, south-west of the 280 kilometre-wide impact crater Aram Chaos. Like this impact basin, both regions are two examples of the chaotic terrain contained in this part of the Valles Marineris.

As the name ‘chaos’ suggests, this terrain is characterised by randomly oriented, large-scale mesas and knobs that are heavily eroded and dominate the area. The area is one of many Chaos regions on Mars that puzzle scientists to this day.

The following more or less comes down to pareidolia, even though it's taken too far to the extreme in some cases. I had made a thread with more images called From China to Mars, it's in the Ancient Civilizations forum, but this particular area of Mars should be posted here.

Aureum Chaos Zoomed Out:




East AC Infrared:




And away from Aureum Chaos for these last three images.




= 33 17'03.28" N 15 54'26.75" W

This last image has kept me up at night. If you cannot see a homosapien-like head, you need glasses. I think pareidolia is often the culprit in many of these Mars photos, but this is just insane, do people hack these satellite photos or is this actually that detailed of a formation?

Would it not make sense for a dying species, if we are to make that far of an assumption about Mars' past, to leave behind something like this. What if Earth was on the way out in the distant future, would we not erect a formation/image of our species and other things to be seen with ease by satellite, to send a message?

reply to post by murkraz


I think you were on to something when you mentioned "pareidolia". Sorry, but you must consider the scale of those images....meters per pixel. You may wish to ask ATS Moderator ArMap for the appropriate high-resolution images, as he has many stored on his hard drive, it seems.

Also, I noted that several of the last images were screen-grabs from Google Earth? A particularly poor source for analyzing, I'm afraid.

The final image is, really, just a trick of light and shadow. Somewhere in another ATS thread that asked about that same image, someone posted a photo taken here on Earth that is very similar....it is a completely natural formation on Earth, so stands to reason that this is the case on Mars as well. (Hopefully, someone reading will recall where that is....)

Now, from the best assessments of Mars' history (and allowing for the fact that there is still much to explore and discover, and that will require a Human presence)....the consensus currently is that Mars' period of wet climate, with sufficient atmospheric pressure to allow water to exist on the surface in large quantities, was a very long time ago. Perhaps billions of years.

Owing that all the planets in our Solar System are roughly the same age as Earth, it is logical and reasonable to presume that had Mars been suitable for life, with abundant liquid water, the evolution there would have progressed at roughly the same pace as here. Give or take a few million years, here and there.

So, that is a guide to begin to imagine what might be a "possibility"...but, many gaping holes in knowledge about the planet still exist, so it's very speculative.

well lets use some sense. clearly its smired around or only on the object.. clearly a face not a mirage.. its really there ..

reply to post by murkraz


I think that the universe has been around for a lot longer than people think. I think mars was once in the same position as earth currently is and probably flourishing with life just like we are right now. Just think about it we are slowly being pulled into the sun right, well whats stopping the sun from swallowing planets orbiting it?

I think there is a "perfect position" a planet gets in while orbiting a sun like star where the temperature and the gravity is just right to turn the moisture of the universe into water then things start to grow and release gases which starts an atmosphere which holds in the oxygen and creates life.

Yeah this is something I just made up but it sounds good in my mind so..

reply to post by Anoynymoose


This doesn't make sense?

I think mars was once in the same position as earth currently is.....Just think about it we are slowly being pulled into the sun right.....

No to both. No, Mars was not once at our orbital distance from the Sun. Orbital dynamics and physics don't work that way.

And, it is contradictory, the quoted statements. If (it isn't) but, if the Sun were "pulling" the Earth toward it (**)...then, if Mars were once this close, why did it move in the "other" direction?

Of course, those are moot questions, since none of that occurred at all.


(**) You may be thinking of the Sun's gravitational attraction as "pulling". In essence, the Earth is "falling" inward, but due to its lateral motion, it continues in an arc, continually. That is what an "orbit" of a smaller body around a more massive one is.

reply to post by ProudBird


There is no possible way for you to know that, what do you think happens when we enter the gravitational plane of the super massive black hole in the center of our galaxy?

That is right, nobody knows so please move along.

Yeah sure we aren't being sucked in at this moment but that doesn't mean it can't happen, especially if something happens and renders our gravity inert even for a short period of time this would be catastrophic for earth.

You really think a explosion happened and everything in our galaxy just happened to be orbiting the sun the way it does? And everything has been doing the exact same thing forever?

Either way, those are some cool images.
Never seen those before.
SF

I googled an image search for 33 17'03.28" N 15 54'26.75" W
and I got Japanease porn and icecream

It would be good to find hirise images of the head.
I think it will only be a mountain or some other natural terrain formation
though, these always are unfortunately.

Why would they leave a monument of a bald guy with big ears ????

Originally posted by rick004
Why would they leave a monument of a bald guy with big ears ????

Maybe for this....

Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by murkraz

 

The final image is, really, just a trick of light and shadow. Somewhere in another ATS thread that asked about that same image, someone posted a photo taken here on Earth that is very similar....it is a completely natural formation on Earth, so stands to reason that this is the case on Mars as well. (Hopefully, someone reading will recall where that is....)

This one?
atlasobscura.com...

Third from the bottom looks EXACTLY like a fetus. wow..

I don't believe these are actual built structures. Wouldn't they've been to huge if they were?

reply to post by Headeraser


To answer your question simply, yes they would. Considering the fact that the satelite picked them up that easily. If you look at the images before they are blown up to see what they are, you can tell they were huge structures.

We do not know what lifeforms were on Mars then (if any) that would have crafted these, they could have been Giants that were able to move large stones and create massive stone structures. Just a thought.

Great find OP. S&F!

-SAP-

It indeed seems that it is pareidolia and is explained at this site with the original pics and explanation of their perception and formation.

source: www.space.com...

Originally posted by dcmb1409
It indeed seems that it is pareidolia and is explained at this site with the original pics and explanation of their perception and formation.

source: www.space.com...

I would argue for the sake of preservation that such an instance of pareidolia could have been intended by the how it was made in the ground, to give us such a 3-d depth, and detailed shading at the back of the head, eyes, an atoms apple and a bit of chubbiness in the face. In this sense it is kind of irrelevant what it actually looks like it, if you aren't intending for it to be a structure, but rather an intelligently preserved formation, intended image for satellite viewing.

Of course I'm taking a giant leap in theoretical terms here, but it's how I feel about some cases of intense detailed pareidolia.

Even the Nazca Lines: They seem placed with intention, so diverse with their removal of ubiquitous reddish pebbles and uncovering of the white ground beneath.

This is again, speaking that something put these things on the ground, with intention to be viewed, not only by aircraft, but by satellite image, given their expectation of our technological advancement. I believe that this world is and this universe is not limited to three-dimensions. That's what we exist in, more or less. Such a damned limitation, but a beautiful experience.

yay pareidolia!
that chubby face guy really is remarkably well detailed to just be chance
but what interests me are those two infrared images
really strange rock formations, those.

Great Images . The head is stands out like a sore thumb
Thanks for sharing s&f

reply to post by decepticonLaura

that chubby face guy really is remarkably well detailed to just be chance

Sorry to disappoint but.....those Google Earth (Mars) images used for the thread Opening Post are simply not good enough to make that claim.

Here, this is what the area actually looks like:



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Add: Forgot to credit member dcmb1409 up above, and the site the photo here is from:

www.space.com...