reply to post by blocula
Some interesting thoughts... Simulated is not the same thing as duplicated, you know. We could simulate earth and its solar system at some distant
future time while creating the illusion in the simulation that the rest of the universe exists. But it actually does not. This would reduce the
complications considerably and anybody in the simulation could be totally unaware of it.
There's an argument that if an alien civilization has reached singularity then it's possible WE'RE ALREADY PART OF THE SINGULARITY. In effect, we're
trapped inside it. We're unable to escape its gravity, so to speak. Or, in other words, a simulation produced by aliens far in advance of us. They
reached the singularity and exist as gods in this universe. This could all be their memory.
If it's true that a civilization already reached singularity then one must wonder if this DICTATES that they would command the whole universe? Would
they become interdimensional? Perhaps a better way of saying this is if a civilization has reached the singularity in our universe, does this
necessarily mean that we MUST be a part of it? It does imply it. Singularity means that a civilization advances exponentially and at a certain point
becomes so advanced that it could literally eat the whole universe. The reason this becomes possible is because it's exponential.
Imagine a race of beings so advanced that they'd be indistinguishable from god. But would they care about us as much as our fantasy god does? I doubt
it. Do we care for ants? I don't think it's a stretch to suggest that the most advanced beings would make us a single-celled organism. We like to
think we're the top of pyramid. I think it's just anthropocentrism. We're not prepared to know the truth because we're not accustomed to being mostly
ignored in a discussion. Put an ant on a white house committee. Do you think the noise it makes will matter to them? I think the discussion will go
like this... Ant makes noise. Person says, "Would somebody shut that thing up. It's incredibly irritating. We need to give these ants a home and hope
they keep us enough alone. They should be able to take care of themselves. Anybody else have some input?" We'd be talking ant hills while the aliens
would be talking planets and solar systems. It'd be a brick wall. Thusly, I don't see much hope for future contact unless the aliens are more on our
level.
Here's another one:
Sometimes I wonder if there's a kind of super energy that dwarfs anything we have. It would do more than just revolutionize our life on this planet.
It would enable us to do things we thought impossible for a stage 0 or even stage 1 civilization. Energy that's equivalent to a star or several of
them. Suddenly, we could be solar system eaters, not planet eaters. But lets say that we know that there're already stage 2 and stage 3 ET's in this
universe. We're (covertly) at war with most of them that come here. We think that they're meddling in our affairs. Through a brokered agreement with
some rogue aliens, we received this technology that produces unfathomable energies. It's my argument that we'd be inclined towards destroying it or
hiding it.
Why? Well, anytime you pack a large amount of energy int o one place, what happens? If it's contained, you have a battery or a reactor. If it's not,
you have an explosion. Another words, massive energy can almost always, directly or indirectly, be weaponized. They'd be afraid what this kind of
energy would do to world security. Why would anyone cooperate if they could produce all their energy at home? What would this do for terrorists? What
would it do for war? After considering the implications of a world with nearly unlimited energy, they'd probably kill everyone that knew about it and
bury whatever was left that hinted at it.
Thus, everything we see around us is an illusion. It's not fake, per say. It's more like a lie. The confines of our reality were not imposed by
nature, they were imposed by people who found this energy technology and decided to destroy it because of fears about what it might do if unleashed
onto the world. They had the best of intentions. They have seen what nuclear technology does as a weapon. They're terrified what would happen if
eveyrone had nukes. Now imagine something that's orders of magnitude more dangerous than nukes. Consequently,, we're living in a sheltered reality.
Some will say it's a lie, some will say it's the only option.
There's another possibility in this idea that I didn't touch on above. But I want to now. It might be that weaponization is not the only concern for
this hypothetical government. It could be that this energy technology makes them feel vulnerable. Humans, like most animals, have ego's. It's normal.
We like to separate ourselves and enjoy our status (when compared to others). We like to earn our keep. Imagine a world where everybody suddenly
becomes equal. Not absolutely equal, but relatively equal. Our power level was shrunk so much by this energy technology that we all became
microscopic. So, viewed from that point of view, we're equal now.
This thought scared them and threatened their ego. This could be another reason that a technology of this sort is hidden. I guess what makes me think
of this are games and life. People earn money and status because it's competitive. Without competition, life becomes a lot more drab. If you don't
feel like what you earn means something then it's not worthwhile. Games are the same way. We compete in them for points or rewards and we compare
ourselves to others to judge ourselves. If there's no scoring system and everybody wins then there's no sense in playing it. Just imagine a guy who
earns the same amount of money as you do but sits on his sofa all day. Would you feel like working your butt off to make the same amount he does? Of
course not. You want to be compensated and acknowledged. Doing good things for the world is only meaningful if it's acknowledged or scored. Without a
kind of scoring system then there's no way to acknowledge your efforts as being better than somebody else's. In a world where there's infinite energy
or (in relative terms) vast amounts, like in the above scenario, there's no need to have a scoring system because there's no appreciable depletion (at
least not for a very very long time). It's precisely the limits of our reality, its finity, that brings about its competitive nature.
In fact, the more finite it's, the more competitive (and evolutionary) it will be. For example, if you stress a system, this will typically kill off
the weaker members. The less stress present in the system and the more excessive hte resources, the more complacent and non-evolutionary things will
predictably become. What kind of reason would there be for living?
So it could be that they chose to hide it to increase competition and evolution of human society. This is different from hiding it to preserve ego.
Ego might just be a by-product.
Peace out.
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