What do Freemasons want? Or the Question is: What are Freemasons actually waiting for?, page 1
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reply posted on 16-11-2011 @ 08:30 AM by CasiusIgnoranze
reply to post by Jamjar



No offence but this exactly what the masses think like. Most believe freemasonry is some conspiracy theory and just fiction which exists in Dan Brown novels.
Classic example is my friend who thought the exact same thing until I had to take him to an actual Freemason Lodge to prove they REALLY EXISTED.

I'm sorry if this doesn't answer your question exactly but that's the best way I can explain about a society which hides in plain view.


reply posted on 16-11-2011 @ 08:32 AM by CasiusIgnoranze
reply to post by Saurus



Ah, and here comes the Freemason disinfo agent.

Didn't take long I guess since ATS is full of Freemasons...


reply posted on 16-11-2011 @ 08:50 AM by CasiusIgnoranze
reply to post by Saurus



To be honest, MODs are better off closing this thread considering the fact Freemasons are never going to answer my initial question because they had to swear an oath which they can't break under the pain of death. Hence always troll and ridicule those who reveal their secrets.

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reply posted on 16-11-2011 @ 08:54 AM by Sauron
reply to post by CasiusIgnoranze



Let us see your proof,

So far all I see is another thread posted by a member who knows nothing, but thinks they know more than real Masons.


reply posted on 16-11-2011 @ 08:57 AM by NonC0nf0rmist
I was one of the folks who started to blame Freemasons for many of the conspiracies pertaining to the NWO.

But after calming down and doing some research on what the Freemasons have done in the past I am convinved they are not behind any NWO that requires mass extinction of the human race. This is why.

Freemasons are believed to be decendants of the Knights Templar in some fashion. The Knights Templar were persecuted by the Vatican all those 100s of years ago, declared heritecs of the church and were hunted down by the church and murdered. That is where we get the Friday the 13th notion of it being bad luck day and whatnot.
The Catholic church was apparently upset in knowledge the Templars found pertaining to Jesus and his disciples, most likely finding that they were Gnostics and did not teach their version of religion the way the Christian churches have been teaching it for nearly the last 1700 years or so.

This jeopordized the money making machine the church created with all the temples/churches created to have soldiers pay for their atonement for their wars. You see it was still not OK to kill people, even for a religious purpose. So the church told the knights/barons/kings of that generation that if a soldier kills someone they must atone for their actions, this had to be done in prayer for some amount of time. The church convinced society that they could have their prayers/atonement completed by proxy by hiring monks/friars/etc... to do the praying for the soldiers at a nominal fee. Kings and barons were not exempt and actually had to atone for their soldiers killings also. They would not be able to atone for so many deaths by their hands in their lifetime so some kings actually paid for multiple churches with a multitude of monks to pray for them. Thus the expansion of the Catholic churches during the Crusades and other wars.

The Knights Templar was pretty upset with their findings in the Holy Land and when they came back and told the church they had it wrong to an extent, the church had to shut them up. They were forcebly removed from the church instead of being able to set the belief in Christ right. They eventually left Europe with their artifacts for the New World during the 14th century, roughly 100 years before Columbus.

Columbus was handed a map of the New World(from a realative who may have been part of the Templar) in some way. Columbus had to share that he had knowledge of the New World or he was not going to get the funding he wanted to get the ships and equipment to sail across the Atlantic.

Sorry back to the Freemasons. With them being Templars, they wanted a better world for their generations to grow up in. They wanted mankind to progress with innovation, which the church regularly held back because it meant they would eventually lose worshipers(money) to science. The church was extremely harsh on science and thinking outside the norm of the church.

The Masons wanted a New World Order of sorts as printed on our money, so man can be free of the chains of bondage that religions create. They do believe in some higher power, grand architect in some way, and want people to believe in some manner of higher power to become a Mason, but this has more to do with people not feeling worthless and commiting acts of random violence/suicide/etc... because there is no God in the manner that Christianity(and other religions) try and force down your throat from the day you are born.(IMO)

It is the nature of almost all species to have a few who want to control the many of their society, and I feel we have many factions at play here, some that cast the spotlight on the Freemasons because they do protect some knowledge of our ancient past that would benefit their means to their ends. The Masons will not share this information, thus alot of misinformation is spread about the Masons.

The Masons have done nothing but help humanity, most of the greatest feats of innovation was backed by Masonic dollars and members. Nearly all American inventors during the industrial age and prior were Masons. Majority of our Founding Fathers were Masons, you really think these men created this country just to enslave the human race? Get real.

To blame the Masons for the rumors of World Domination by extinction/murder/concentration camps is errorness in my opinion. I think if anything they are trying to protect us from such a debacle.

There are a few alleged Masons that may be bad apples, but maybe they were actually part of another faction and having the blame put on the Masons for their wrong doing, i.e:Bush,Cheney,Obama,Johnson,etc...

*We may never know, but this is just my opinion and is not based on any facts, just speculation from quite a few years studying the subject as an amature conspiracy theorist.
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reply posted on 16-11-2011 @ 09:05 AM by Saurus
reply to post by partycrasher



The Super Mod did not defend Masons at all. He just asked the OP to provide a little proof. Maybe he wants to review all the evidence for himself before making up his mind.

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