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reply posted on 4-12-2011 @ 03:32 PM by KSigMason
reply to post by CosmicCitizen


Actually our Order and our Oaths do not supersede our duty to God, family, country, or neighbor. This is well documented.

As for the Presidents comment, only 14 were presidents and here is the statistics on them that I could find:

- 6 went through the Royal Arch
- 4 became Knights Templar
- 2 were Grand Masters of a Grand Lodge
- 1 was a Deputy Grand Master of a Grand Lodge
- 1 only made it to the 14° of the Scottish Rite
- 3 were 32° Scottish Rite Masons
- 2 were 33° Scottish Rite Masons (one of them being Harry Truman, the 33rd US President)
- Harry Truman was the only 50 year Mason to be President

Not really a myriad of "high level", statistically speaking.


reply posted on 4-12-2011 @ 03:53 PM by SyphonX
It's become a sort of an inside, stupid joke that there is an overwhelming amount of masons on this site, especially as moderators. Overwhelming because they represent a minuscule demographic in society, but somehow manage to take up a chunk of the mod population on a conspiracy forum. Yea, that's completely normal and expected. It's because you're successful members of society, and very professional with much integrity, etc, and you just happen to "fall into prestigious positions" naturally. Yea, we all get it.

What we care about is that you belong to a cryptic organization that is wholly exclusive to old white men, and you are tasked with moderating the communication and speech of others in a forum for discussion that is worldwide and represents the entirety of humanity that can access the internet. It is disturbing and it's called vested interests. You made your own bed, now you may lie in it.

You are a cult. It is no different than being suspicious or wary of fundamentalists of the Abrahamic faiths, or Scientologists. No one really wants to listen to you, because you belong to a creepy cult with exclusive membership. People certainly don't want to think you are able to control whatever they say, delete posts, alter conversations, etc. You just happen to all know each other as well, and all of you as always show up in the same discussions, you come out like attack dogs.

Regardless of your intentions, true or not, you are missing the bigger picture here. This is classic symptoms exhibited by people in a cult. They don't recognize that people are weary of, or offended by their organized affiliations.


reply posted on 4-12-2011 @ 04:08 PM by KSigMason
reply to post by SyphonX


Could you please provide some statistics on Mason vs non-Mason moderators on this forum? And at what percentage constitutes a "chunk"?

Are we Masons not entitled to be on this website, this forum? Are we not entitled, that showing proper skill and ability, to become Moderators? If you think a Moderator who is a Mason has acted improperly then please show us when and how.

Freemasonry is not "wholly exclusive to old white men". I'm 27, but if that is old then call me geriatric. I am white, but my Grand Lodge does not exclude members based on race or skin color. There is a Prince Hall Lodge in our area, but we are in amity with them and often visit each others Lodges.

If Freemasonry is a cult then we can call any assemblage of men with similar beliefs a cult. You throw cult around like your trying to beat us with a stick. Fundamentalist? Freemasonry? Hell, in the 1st degree alone we teach one should practice moderation and circumscribe our desires so that we don't fall to one extreme or the other.

You also think you can speak for all non-Masons, but that is extremely pompous, pretentious, and arrogant.

If we are attack dogs then we are only loosed upon only lies, fallacies, hoaxes, and defamation. I fight against the enemies of Freemasonry: tyranny, fanaticism, and ignorance. If this makes me a horrible person in your eyes then I am not going to have any trouble sleeping at night.

If we are brainwashed by our cult, wouldn't our family and friends have noticed negative symptoms of this membership?
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