Judge Rules Against Occupy Protestors, page 2
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reply posted on 15-11-2011 @ 04:56 PM by macman
Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
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post by macman


Who owns the park?



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Don't know. That is a question that I have not seen answered.


reply posted on 15-11-2011 @ 04:57 PM by macman
Originally posted by mobiusmale
Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
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post by daggyz



I've been involved in Occupy Atlanta since day one, and I'm employed. So are about 40% of the rest of the group. Not to mention some people have had hard time for more than "a day" and it's a lot harder to get a job. You're awesomely understanding of situations that aren't your wifes....


What kind of employment do you and the other 40% have that allows you to hang out a park 7 days a week, attend meetings, bang drums, sleep out in tents, never shower, etc.

I think that either your employment must be part-time or casual...or your presence at Occupy Atlanta must be. Nobody with full-time employment could have a full-time involvement with "the group".

Oh...and even if your numbers are right, this means that 60% of the people there are in fact camping out instead of looking for gainful employment. I wonder how many of those are actually drawing unemployment benefits, or collecting welfare, or receiving disability benefits from the system they hate so much...and for the most part paid for by the so-called 1% they so despise.

This campfire squatter assemblage is being sent home...prevented from continuing to live on public and private lands rent free and in contravention of the law...as they should be.

Protest is fine. Free speech is a right we all have. But protesters do not have the right to just take whatever they want from the rest of us, and claim they have the right to do so, just because they have something they want to complain about.



Teachers, Union People and ACORN personnel.

I am sure I left some out.


reply posted on 15-11-2011 @ 04:58 PM by The Old American
Originally posted by idk42
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post by macman



That's the point. The government is part of the problem, and guess who is directing the actions of the government? The ultra-wealthy, the banks, the corporations, and the government are connected at the hip. It's another wedge issue. They're trying to pit the Tea Party against OWS, the conservatives against the hippies, etc. when these people all want the same thing..to fix the system instead of letting the corrupt system continue to infest the economy, society, and government.

You say OWS doesn't represent you..well, it represents your interests, even if you don't realize it.


The government is the main problem. If central government didn't have so much power, corporations wouldn't have anyone to lobby.

/TOA



reply posted on 15-11-2011 @ 05:03 PM by phoenix0714
reply to post by mobiusmale



Dude! Go take your anger and use it in a productive way. You have a very strong argument, it just needs to be steered into the right direction. The person you are picking on is doing something and trying to share the process with others who care to listen. You on the other hand are just being a roadblock between those good efforts. You can find a positive avenue for the things you feel strongly about, but this is not the way.


reply posted on 15-11-2011 @ 05:07 PM by The Old American
Originally posted by phoenix0714
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post by mobiusmale



Dude! Go take your anger and use it in a productive way. You have a very strong argument, it just needs to be steered into the right direction. The person you are picking on is doing something and trying to share the process with others who care to listen. You on the other hand are just being a roadblock between those good efforts. You can find a positive avenue for the things you feel strongly about, but this is not the way.


That sounds like our argument against OWS. Sitting in a park is not productive. Their anger is focused on Wall Street instead of at the government where it should be. He's not being a roadblock, he's injecting sense.

/TOA


reply posted on 15-11-2011 @ 05:15 PM by My.mind.is.mine
reply to post by mobiusmale



For over a month, we fed, clothed, and gave some form of shelter to a whole lot of Atlanta's homeless population. The city don't feed these people, and they were taken in, given tents, given musical instruments, given books, given clothing OFF OF OUR BACKS, and given friends, and some of them haven't had that in YEARS! So now all of a sudden the good we've done is minimized because you "rented a meeting hall"? We didn't "trash" the park down here. As a matter of fact, people who did litter were always put in their place. The park had signs all over saying NO LITTERING. After the neighborhood complained, we agreed to cut off drumming and other noise at 11pm.

GTFO here with your "we carried ourselves better than you" attitude. If you REALLY gave a #, you would have went down to your local occupation, and made suggestions, but NOOOOO, you're just one to throw negativity from a distance.

The city of Atlanta hasn't done a damn thing for its 40,000 homeless people. And up until they evicted us, they had a place to come to at least rest their feet, take a nap, get some clothes, and some food.
edit on 15-11-2011 by My.mind.is.mine because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 15-11-2011 @ 05:16 PM by Skewed
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I wonder, if Wallstreet decided to do some marketing and come up with a way to make money(work with me here) and made souvenirs of the bull. They advertised it and hyped it all up as must have for the citizens, much the way the iphone was done and suckered the masses in to it. Now on the day they were to go on sale, I wonder if they would have a problem with the people camping a few nights before to get the latest and greatest souvenir.


reply posted on 15-11-2011 @ 05:48 PM by phoenix0714
reply to post by The Old American



Go ahead and call it "injecting sense" if you want. I call it misguided anger. The truth is the government is just a reflection of us as a whole. Recent generations have sold out. The "older" generations in america have given the younger generations what they thought was good advice and "sense" but we have known since the beginning that it was no good, and now it is coming home to us all. Your time sold out our futures, and you had the "sense" to know it then, but you took the easy road, well now we will get to pay your bill. Don't think we will smile and look pretty while we do it. Our time has come, and we have only one very small chance to get it right or our children will not have a world that is worth living in.


reply posted on 16-11-2011 @ 08:42 AM by AnonymousFem
reply to post by JackBauer



There is your answer, another co-operate greed companies buying and owning public parks in the US. The exact same thing has occurred over in the UK. Most of the land is owned by private co-operate businesses, And members wonder why People such as those in the Occupied Walls Street movement were annoyed.

And another thing. some say take direct action. Hows about it falls on deaf ears. Once politicians are elected into office they offer you the world then turn around and do the opposite.

I also think a hell a lot of people have forgotten what caused all of this in the First place. The Financial Greedy traders, investors, those in the banks who are bringing this world to the brink of catastrophe. It is amusing a lot of members whom criticize the protestors at wall street and else where, but do not criticize those who caused most of the financial suffering in the first place.


reply posted on 16-11-2011 @ 09:12 AM by My.mind.is.mine
reply to post by AnonymousFem



No, they do worse: they acknowledge but don't DO ANYTHING about the problem. They nod at the robber on his way out. Wave to a murderer with blood on his clothes. They just TALK, they don't DO anything!



reply posted on 17-11-2011 @ 11:06 AM by Eurisko2012
Originally posted by The Old American
Judge Rules Against "Occupy" Protestors

Supreme Court Justice Michael Stallman weighed whether to extend a temporary restraining order that bars the city from enforcing park rules against tents and other camping equipment. The original ruling came after police and sanitation workers had already swept all personal belongings from the two-month-old encampment, with more than 200 people arrested in the raid


Well, now the courts are getting involved. This is pretty interesting that this movement has reached the courts in such a short time. The Civil Rights movement took much longer to see time in a courtroom. Could that mean that OWS is considered bigger than the CRA, or people are ready to get OWS out of the way ASAP?

These encampments are becoming sanitation nightmares. Good for the judge, and I hope more weigh in on this in favor of cleaning out these temporary waste dumps. I think this is the beginning of the end of this phase of OWS. They're going to have to come up with some sort of organized method now to get their voices heard. Let's hope they actually focus on the real corruption in Washington now.

/TOA
edit on 15-11-2011 by The Old American because: Finished my thoughts on this.


Their purpose is not to focus.

Their purpose is to distract attention away from the failed policies of the Obama Administration.

They will now move on to Phase 2. Attack the police and video tape the counterattack.

Apparently, domestic terrorism will not be tolerated by Bloomberg. They arrested that guy
who wanted to fire bomb Macys. I was waiting for Pelosi to go down there and pose for a
photo op.
edit on 17-11-2011 by Eurisko2012 because: (no reason given)

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