Eve of Destruction?

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posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 03:07 PM
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Lucky? Perhaps. But maybe it's not luck. Maybe we have, as a group, an ability to see where that final step will take us?

I don't know. That's maybe a little too metaphysical for my tastes. All I know is this, mankind has had the ability to destroy itself for longer than I've been alive and hasn't done so.




posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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A supreme leader and his puppet in Iran, you say? I'll counter with a Stalin in the Soviet Union. Or, how about Mao in China?

Iran is quite a bit less of a threat than either of those two, I submit. Our European freinds who are old enough remember the threat, which was all too real, of the rompin' stompin' Red Army coming through the Falda Gap.

Yes, things are tense. They've been tenser, and the world abides.



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 03:54 PM
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S&F for an excellent post. I, too, have been thinking along the same lines for some time now. I am reminded of Napoleon Hill's quote, "Every adversity, every failure, every heartache carries with it the seed of an equal or greater benefit."

Man, regardless of the tragedy, is adaptable and will survive. We reason, we think and then we adjust. As a side note, it's kind of funny how most everything in life can be compared to the waves in the ocean. There is an ebb and a flow to almost everything. Think about it: the economy, good times followed by bad times, followed by good times. Short haircuts in one generation moving to long hair in the next, then back to short in the next. Evil reigns during a certain age and then the forces of good rise up to defeat them, followed by another evil force, etc. etc.

Just some thoughts.



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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Hello again seagull,




All I know is this, mankind has had the ability to destroy itself for longer than I've been alive and hasn't done so.


Same here. And we can both agree that this is an undeniable fact.

In your op, you ask if it is possible? you answer yes. And I agree.

Likely? you don't think so. And I think that the odds are against us. While I understand there has been wars and most likely will always be wars, the scenario has changed a lot since we were born.

The Cuban Crisis and the Cold War have ended because cooler heads have prevailed. But let's not forget that it was a head fight between two superpowers and two superpowers only. There were always rumors of a WW3 about to erupt when a new war starts, I agree. I remember when US invaded Irak, a lot of people thought that it was like lighting a match in a barrel of powder that is the Middle east. But the barrel didn't explode.

Now, attacking Syria, then Iran is like lighting a pretty huge firecracker in the powder barrel. If so happens, what are the odds that it won't escalate to a multi-nation war leading to a horrific World War?

Odds.

I could go to the Casino, just once every decade, stop by the roulette table and gamble on the green and win. Then return the following decade and gamble on the green again and win again and so on for decades. I could be winning forever but odds are that eventually, in a moment's time, I will lose my gamble when red does come out. Or black.

Why I say that we have been very lucky thus far.

But I do hope you're right.



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 04:16 PM
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The world can only hold its breath for only so long. from the time man learned how to make war on one an other, sticks and stones to today's weaponry NCB, that is Nuke Chem and Bio, it is no longer just the battle filed that is effected.
WW1 was the first to use this new way of destruction and intimidation, to strike at the heart of civilization.
WW2 was the first time in mankind's history that it could be done with a single bomb and from that time it has been just a matter of time till when we all face the man made sun, or a chem that with one breath does you in, or a bug a germ that will do the same.
We thought the game came to and end , when they said no more cold war, oh how well we were fools, this is when things just heated up.
The 50's and 60's came and went , we mankind learned nothing all , but how to make war, quicker and deadlier still, the term duck and cover. With more excuses as too why, Cuba comes to mind
70's and 80's seemed to slip by, conflict here and there nothing to get alarmed about.
Yes the wall did come down, with out a single shot, STAR WARS any one.
Now comes the 90's and the war drums beat yet again, Oil Oil we must have Oil, new names became known, Kuwait, Iraq, and Persian gulf.
Yes we won! we have Oil for now.
Then there is the new dawn of man, the 20th Century came to end.
21st brought us 9/11, ever sense then all of mankind has said this is it , this is the end.
The fall of and capture of Saddam Hussein, the war in Afghanistan seems to mean nothing at all.
The mid east erupted with the pretext of peace, and freedom for all.
In truth how many dead.
Now as 2012 is upon us the fear of nukes is once more, China, Iran and Israel all have a part of this, where is the US.
Beating the drum ever louder.
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posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by MrMaybeNot
It will come like a thief in the night


Not even time to run to the gas station to fill up knowing there will be no more fuel available for months if not years. Utter chaos and anarchy within minutes. OWS will realize this ain't so good after all.



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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Great reply! You summed up what I meant when I said that the scenario has changed.

Humankind has the most fantastic ability which is to create. Unfortunately, humankind has the worst habit which is to use - at least once - what it has created.

Nuclear is prehistorical...

edit on 15-11-2011 by SonoftheSun because: ooopsie



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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I don't see a big "End of the World" event happening. Obviously it's possible. but unlikely.

What I do see happening is little events here and there that further a "NWO" type society. A police state with checkpoints everywhere and everyone has an RFID chip. You can't do anything "out of the ordinary" without neighbors reporting you, etc.



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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Now as 2012 is upon us the fear of nukes is once more, China, Iran and Israel all have a part of this, where is the US.


You sir are profoundly prophetic! Everything you have said is true and this last part is even MORE so. We will not like the answer to your last question.

...where is the US?...



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 04:36 PM
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to your question, where is the US..."Beating the drum ever louder". made a change to the true meaning of my post, betting is not the same as Beating

how ever, i would not take any bets just yet.



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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It doesnt take a madman to release a pathogen, it only takes storing level 4 bioweapons in facilities in cities only capable of safely containing level 2 pathogens. But they wouldnt do that would they?



posted on Nov, 15 2011 @ 11:43 PM
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Originally posted by seagull
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Slavery? To whom? Slavery implies a lack of choice. My friend, there is always a choice. You don't like what the world is becoming? Help do something about it.


Slave to the daily grind..working harder for the daily bread.
Slave to a tyrant government, 435 house of representatives 100 Senators reduced to a 12 man committee reduced to a 6 man committee. 535 positions there by law and should be held to productive accountability.

The will of survival is a powerful motivator. Only to be outsmarted by mankind.
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posted on Nov, 16 2011 @ 01:28 AM
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World War III?

Ten years ago the "Global War On Terrorism" as it was called began.

GLOBAL = WORLD
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posted on Nov, 16 2011 @ 01:45 AM
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no not so 100 miles west there is a place, that once had "Wet Eyes" for a guest, now they toy with things, best unknown to all of us , if let out , 99% will be as dust or make that toast.



posted on Nov, 16 2011 @ 01:59 AM
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Originally posted by seagull
All the Doomsday scenarios are possible. True. But likely? No, I don't think so... Of course, only time will tell.

What!! Unlikely!! What makes you think all of those bad things that have happened in the past won't happen again in the future?



posted on Nov, 16 2011 @ 05:31 AM
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Now, attacking Syria, then Iran is like lighting a pretty huge firecracker in the powder barrel. If so happens, what are the odds that it won't escalate to a multi-nation war leading to a horrific World War?


What makes you think this is going to happen? It's escaped no ones notice that currently, regardless of my opinion, the U.S., and allies are waging two wars. Why would we further complicate matters by beginning a third? One that could, as many have postulated, escalate into a third world war?

No, I think we're smarter than that. Not to say there won't be conflict, I'm not that optimistic. Conflict is what we, as humans, do. It's our nature. But we've also, seemingly, an ability to know when to stop, at least so far.

I'm no pie-eyed optimist here... I know, deep down, that these horrific possibilities exist. I've lived a better part of fifty years, as have all of us, with that possibility hanging like a Sword of Damocles over our heads. ...and the chain holding that Sword is pitted with rust. I know this. But as with anything damaged, this chain gets repaired, time and time again. It will again.

Faith some would call it. Others would call it a certain knowledge that human nature is not all dark, just as much light is there as well. Angels of our better natures, if you will...



posted on Nov, 16 2011 @ 05:40 AM
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Slave to the daily grind..working harder for the daily bread.
Slave to a tyrant government, 435 house of representatives 100 Senators reduced to a 12 man committee reduced to a 6 man committee. 535 positions there by law and should be held to productive accountability.


All of which is very changeable, if we're prepared as a whole, to do something about it. Good grief, don't you all get it? Nothing is immutable. Nothing exists that isn't changeable.

Too many of us look at a situation and say, "That's impossible to fix...", or "That's beyond our control..." Or words to that effect.

Slavery? Bull. No one is a slave to anything, or anyone. Now you may not be willing to change, for a whole host of reasons, and not all of them are bad ones. Kids. Family. That's why so many of us have jobs we hate, and can't break away. That doesn't make us slaves, that makes us responsible adults...

You're only a slave if you allow yourself to be tied down when there is an opportunity presented. One can only be a willing slave.



posted on Nov, 16 2011 @ 05:44 AM
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OP I agree with living your life that way, if you include a little care for your safety and future.

Unfortunately, if you're saying "Life will go on" that's known as "Normalcy Bias" and it is simply not true.
Life as we know it is going away forever. Enjoy the ride.
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posted on Nov, 16 2011 @ 05:51 AM
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They will. There's little reason to doubt that.

What I am saying is, regardless of how bad it may seem, we aren't going to destroy ourselves. Oh, yes, people will die, be hurt, all too often they're going to be the innocents. Innocents who only want to be left alone to live their lives in peace and safety. That's not too much to ask. But given mans nature? Seems unlikely. But there are two sides to human nature... We're all of us, on a daily basis, exposed to the darker side. As evidenced in nightly news broadcasts on a daily basis. So are we exposed on just as daily a basis, to the lighter side of that same human nature. Ordinary acts of common decency, and kindness... We see them, yet rarely do we acknowledge them. You all know what I'm talking about. The family that take in lost and lonely children, not because they're out to earn brownie points in some cosmic contest, but because it's the right thing to do. Because, in order to look in a mirror and like the person looking back at them, they must help.

This is what I'm getting at here. Human nature is a mixture of good and bad. I submit that the good surfaces most often when its needed the most. ...and racial survival would seem to qualify. No, it doesn't surface as often as it should, but it does. Will it continue to do so? Yes. I've faith that it will.



posted on Nov, 16 2011 @ 05:54 AM
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I was, when I said "life goes on", not referring to returning just as it was... Change is inevitable, I know that. Life in general will, regardless of circumstance, will go on.





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