An Alternative Mystical View On God

Originally posted by Slicky1313
um... ok, yeah whatever.

first off, why the heck would God give up his title?!?!
this is yer beliefs, and to me thats personal, logically speaking if I was God, id have a purpose for everything, I would give my power up
why would a king become a peasent and give his power away?

and if "God" broke up to many without him wanting to, he wouldnt be "God" now would he considering God is all powerful and no one higher.
thats what makes God God.

thats the thing Slicky1313, they say its best not to divide up and much better to use your mind/will to create a planet or universe etc.

we dont probably know what situation caused the original creater to divide up, but can say a much better option in a god state is to use your mind to create matter.

[edit on 5-12-2004 by MysticOfRadiance]

To phrase the question correctly:

Why would The Original Creator divide Himself up into a large number of basically spiritual souls instead of just keeping His Godhead (and power) in the Monad Realms?

That is an excellent inquiry.

We first have to consider His perspective. He was totally alone and relatively unafraid in the emptiness of space. His vantage point is alien to us because it is very difficult to imagine being totally isolated and very powerful. A logical extrapolation indicates that He desired to manifest a very large Universe that is teeming with intelligent life.

But did He actually give it all up?

Did He truly give up the title?

Not really. His long-term plan is for lesser Ascended Masters to eventually emerge and invite Him into their present timeline (His far future). When this occurs, His Godhead will be intact � like He never divided Himself up in the first place.

What The Original Creator did was make a supreme sacrifice.

Such acts of selflessness are not punished by The Light...but are ultimately rewarded by it.

Very ineresting stuff, Paul. This is the first time I have come across any of your writings. And, it won't be the last.
How long have you been on this path to Light? Is this the same Light as is mentioned in The Golden Dawn and other occultist groups?

Great thread and posts to back it up.

In the search for my own comprehention of a God form i have begun to see an ideaology that in many ways is such that you speak of. While I have only started on my spiritual path, I find your words to be inspirational and thought provoking. I look foward to your future posts and keep up the good work

Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe
Very ineresting stuff, Paul. This is the first time I have come across any of your writings. And, it won't be the last.
How long have you been on this path to Light? Is this the same Light as is mentioned in The Golden Dawn and other occultist groups?

Hi DontTreadOnMe,

I started out with pursuing meditation, various metaphysical works like those of Seth through Jane Roberts, and the martial arts, while still in high school in the late 1970s. Afterwards, I started to slowly relearn what I forgot, i.e., what I knew in the Spirit before my current life began. It has been an arduous process and I am still learning. The Path of Radiance, as it has come to be called, was initially embraced in the early 1980s.

Is The Light Of The God Force that I refer to the same as what other metaphysical schools espouse? Probably but I prefer not to make a blanket statement as such because each interpretation may be slightly different.

If you mean the energy in the Spirit that all discarnates utilize and which determines how powerful we are when ascended...then yes.



[edit on 6-12-2004 by Paul_Richard]

Originally posted by Franki
Great thread and posts to back it up.

In the search for my own comprehention of a God form i have begun to see an ideaology that in many ways is such that you speak of. While I have only started on my spiritual path, I find your words to be inspirational and thought provoking. I look foward to your future posts and keep up the good work

Hi Franki,

Thanks.

Having worked with many people through the years, I have found that whenever they say things like, "this rings true" and "this makes sense" it is not only because of their current analysis and investigation, it is also because they are starting to remember what they believed and found to be true before their current incarnation -- when they were in the Spirit.

There is a great deal of awareness and cosmic knowledge locked within us and many are struggling to remember that which they have forgotten. Occasionally, a piece of the jigsaw puzzle of spiritual and metaphysical understanding is obtained and slowly a coherent paradigm of understanding is put together.

It is well worth the effort.

You may wish to get a copy of The Challenge Of Evil, as it is a very good metaphysical work and in some ways it parallels Solist Mysticism.

Quote: "the Essence of Spirit & God is Love".

Yes Dude you got it - Exactly! I think that this can be difficult for people to Realize because it is so simple!

Paul_Richard,

Your 'radiance.gif' avatar picture has Hypnotic Effects.

Originally posted by ThePunisher
Paul_Richard,

Your 'radiance.gif' avatar picture has Hypnotic Effects.

Your eyes are getting droopy...

Your arms and legs are getting heavier...

You now find that you have a burning desire to do Heart Chakra Radiance for at least ten minutes a day (to contemplative music) and to strive to live by The Golden Rule...

Well...it's a nice thought anway.

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
If The Original Creator were here, there would be absolutely no question and all of us would belong to the One True Religion.

Why?

Because any God Realized being who can manifest BILLIONS OF GALAXIES would also be able to HEAL MILLIONS OF PEOPLE DAILY of terminal affliction.

Compassion Dictates Evolution

Conclusion: The First Coming has yet to occur.

Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis.

It is interesting to note that most who debate over the God issue either espouse that there is a God (however an underachiever) or that there isn't one. Very few consider the alternate possibility that there WAS one.

I have come to know from my own mystical investigations over many years that after The Original Creator initiated The Big Bang, He totally and irreversibly divided Himself up into basically spiritual entities or 'angels.' This is what "The Fall" symbolizes in the Bible.

Traditional ministers speak of a piece of God or 'god-spark' being within all of us.

Melvin Morse, a pediatrician and well-known author and researcher on the Near Death Experiences of children, once prayed to understand the relationship of souls to God. The answer came back to him in a flash of insight: a "fractal."

A "fractal" is a piece of a greater whole which contains the program or blueprint of that greater whole. Like a hologram, if you break it up into little pieces, it still contains the entire original picture.

Hence, souls are "fractals of light" of The Original Creator.

That is why He isn't around these days in His Ascended state. We are all that is left of Him and the angels in heaven are not spiritually advanced enough to cure the ills of society.

The only way we are going to overcome the many problems of civilization is by evolving into becoming co-Creators ourselves so that when we leave the flesh and Ascend into The Light, we will have the energy required in order to manifest a Utopic society: no poverty, no hunger, no homelessness, no disease.

Conventional solutions have all failed.

Unconventional spiritual solutions, in following His example, have a much higher probability for success.

I have found a decent article regarding the New Age you speak of.




"New World Order or Occult Secret Destiny?


The New Age Movement and Service to The Plan


The New World Order as envisioned by the Elite is hardly a recent undertaking. Theirs is a philosophy rooted in ancient occult traditions. Success is near, and the infiltration of society by New Age occultism is the reason for this success. The New World Order has never been solely about world government, rather, from the beginning its proponents have been privy to secret doctrines and it is a spiritual plan more than anything.

If one failed to take into account the occult nature of the New World Order, they would be remiss. The UN and the New Age have been bed-fellows since the beginning. America's secret destiny is the product of Rosicrucian and Freemason forefathers. The New Atlantis as proposed in Francis Bacon's work is almost at hand. The Ancient Mysteries are being studied for illumination and enlightenment by the New World Order's elite. Not to mention the New Age gurus — dutifully recruiting on behalf of the Secret Brotherhood.

In 1980, Marylin Ferguson compiled and espoused a synthesis involving the theories of transformation and the secret plan of the Aquarian Age. In her studies of the scientific advancements of this age involving entropy and syntropy, holism, holographs, paradigm shifts, the uncertainty principle and evolution, she discovered that, "for the first time an American renaissance is taking place in all disciplines, breaking the boundaries between them, transforming them at their farthest reaches—where they all converge." (The Aquarian Conspiracy, p.12)

Speaking of the networks and web of influence, Ferguson proclaimed: "There are legions of conspirators... in corporations, universities, hospitals, on the faculties of public schools, in factories, in doctors' offices, in state and federal agencies, on city councils and the White House staff, in state organizations, in virtually all arenas of policy making in the country [U.S.]...[including] at the cabinet level of the United States Government." (ibid. p.24) However, other New Age proponents said that this is innacurate, in that she had understated the influence of the New Age worldwide, especially in the UN and the EEC.

It is no coincidence that America has become the center of New Age and New World Order conspiracies. The Theosophical and Rosicrucian traditions hold that every nation has a spiritual destiny guided by a hierarchy of beings using all ethical (or un-ethical) means of manifesting the "divine plan" through the will of the nation's leaders.

A proponent of the New Age and the Secret Brotherhood's plan for a New World Order is Robert Hieronimus. In his book America's Secret Destiny, he traced the spiritual vision of America's founding fathers and the plan's eventual fruition in what we call the New World Order and the New Age Movement (both of which are synonymous). He stresses that the founding fathers of America had the equivalent of "Masters" and were pupils in a sense, much like today's powerful Elite have Masters and Gurus, following the teachings of the Great Plan.

According to the Rosicrucians and Theosophists, supporting the divine plan are great beings refered to as masters of the physical and spiritual planes. The evolution of America owes much to the seed thoughts of four masters—Kuthumi, El Morya, Rogoczy, and Djwhal Khul. Some of the founders of America may have been consciously or unconsciously students of these teachers, just as some contemporary Americans are pupils of these masters. In fact, the motto of the heirarchy of world teachers is identical with America's destiny—the brotherhood of man and the Fatherhood of God. (p. 95)

Another writer, from the opposite camp, confirms the assertions of Heironimus. Willy Peterson writes:

In order to reach their aims of world unity and thus engage the whole world in service to the Plan, "enlightened" Freemasons and New Agers have been pushing for collectivist motifs that promote monistic pantheism and unity. This is why the chief instigators to the globalist League of Nations and the United Nations have been Theosophists, trying to work out the plan. This is why the verbiage and aims at the U.N. is for world peace and brotherhood. It is a spiritual undertaking in a secular world. Lucis Trust has had three think-tanks located at the U.N. Plaza in New York for around fifty years. No wonder the former Assistant Secretary General to the U.N., Robert Muller, is a devoted disciple of Alice Bailey, whose book, A Treatise on White Magic, forms the basis for the Robert Muller schools. (The Leavening)

These people are called the torchbearers or lightbearers of the New World Order. A spiritual plan that has been traced to the time of Nimrod and the Tower of Babel, up through to the Illuminati and onwards. "A loosely-knit world conspiracy," David Allen Lewis writes, "a so called Network of Illuminists." "Whether the Illuminati has one special organization that is its orginal descendant... we can be very sure that its philosophical torchbearers are represented by literally hundreds of organizations and individuals in many diverse realms..."

- by Terry Melanson ©, 2001 (Last update: May 2nd, 2005)

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[edit on 13-2-2006 by ThePunisher]