I claim no expertise, but I do state this, if you cannot do a little research, then why spout someone else's opinion? Parrots get crackers, Polly
want a cracker?
If you read nothing else in my post, remember this, It does not matter if Bush is like Hitler, it only matters if the rest of the world thinks he is.
History is written by the victor, not the truth.
Question my patriotism if you will, I served my time in the military, and fought in the first gulf conflict. I felt it was justified as well, they
invaded Kuwait, we had the support of the world, and there was no question of reasons. Bush cannot decide on a reason, the world does not support us,
and there are many tyrants in the world, why this one.
If one man stands for the people, they call him Democrat, another for Business they call him Republican, and one stands for thinking they call him out
of luck. How is it that Republicans, who stand for business can actually win an election based on popular vote? Why do we stick to parties, are we
as individuals too lazy to look at the candidates? Only two to look at, we should have more, but society has been corrupted to a point where it will
not happen. Hitler had to go against several parties to gain power, Bush is a shoe in comparatively, and he didn't have popular vote like Hitler
did. Promises of revenge, just like Hitler, promises of getting the money flowing, just like Hitler. I could go on with these links for a while.
Does this mean Bush is Hitler? Not likely, but it does show how support from a nation could lead someone like Hitler into power. Even if one as
unpopular as Bush.
Three things I see that can lead to a larger scale war then we may be ready to deal with.
-Attacking Syria, Bush already made threats.
-Taking money from Iraq to pay for the coalition.
-Attacking any other countries within the next couple of years, for whatever reason, unless backed by the UN first. (Which the UN will be very
hesitant for political reasons.)
Strong reading suggestion: American Ignorance of War, by Czeslaw Milosz. This is a short story that talks about the results of war, it is not very
pretty, but it is very impacting.
It does not matter if Bush IS Hitler, it only matters if the rest of the world believes he is. As with Hitler no one jumped in until Hitler decided
to push. But America will not see this as quickly. Hitler saw more resistance due to WW1, and the original problems associated with it. If Hitler
were say 50 years later, he probably would have gotten an extra country or two before the rest of the world woke up. There are lots of good sites for
history of Germany and both WW1 and WW2.
Will the US see WW3 start as easily against them? If we decide to attack any more countries, all countries with similar political views will declare
war on us in one means or another, most likely terrorist activities. Others will then join in, probably both against and for us. Right now the world
is in political unrest, America needs to keep their mouths shut, finish what we already started, and no push further. Only then will things be
allowed to settle, but with Bushes quick mouth, this is unlikely.
When the US backs terrorists, they are called "Freedom Fighters", when anyone else does, it must be terrorism. Angle of perception is what the
world lives for. The US trained Osama Bin Laden, not Iraq, or some far of country.
Excerpt from: www.guardian.co.uk...
(Hopefully this link works.)
‘As Jeremy Schneider, attorney for one defendant, put it in his opening: "And you know what? You know who backed the Arab freedom fighters? United
States. United States. We supported the Arab resistance in 1984 in Afghanistan. We, the United States, supported the training in Afghanistan. We gave
them guns." ‘
Bush presented to us gullible Americans that Iraq was the source, indirectly of course, not the US. How quickly we forget when the world is not
And where are all these chemical and bio weapons we keep hearing "evidence" is found? Not used, in what you would expect a desperate act from a man
such as Saddam.
I agree Saddam was a tyrant, but he was not the one that started Sept. 11th. Why could we not wait just a short time longer for political debate?
Get more worldly support?
In reality you state how firmly the US does not take land, but we have. We just call it liberation, put the ruler we want in control, and run them
under protection and the watchful eye of yours truly, us.
But it would be far better for the people to be directly under the US, why don't we? Economy! USSR when the power shifted was thrown into chaos, we
help a little, but if we owned the USSR it would be more costly than letting a few of them starve while they restructure. Also extended power creates
extended unrest. The size of a country greatly dictates the amount of control over the people it can have. If you get too many people, especially
from opposing views and backgrounds, the stable power some have solidified will shift. Later when these countries ask to be states, we will let them
Another point, war has never been about land. It has always been about resources, land is just where the resources are. How many people are fighting
over Antarctica right now? If we can get those resources without the cost of maintaining the land, is that not better than owning the land?
But what of humanitarian aid? The amount we provide in aid reaches very few, it costs tremendous amounts to get a country going in a completely
different direction. Later when they are economically stable and guided all these years by our helping hand, we get pay back in trade agreements, and
allies, later perhaps as states.
Humanitarian aid is not as easily noticeable as it is. It is one of an investment in interest; we helped them so they will give us better oil deals.
What of the poor, actually few of them see a difference, other than a few years of starving. The new oil barrens on the other hand, get lots of aid,
and profit, while helping America profit from oil trades. We treat foreign aid as a big deal, but we have people on our own streets starving, and we
keep our own poor down. Why should we do any differently in another country? We keep them alive to feed the economy, but letting them better
themselves destroys the pyramid of capitalism. While this is no economy class, it is important to not, war is almost entirely based on economy, WW1,
WW2, and just about every other war in the world had money as an underlying theme. The politics involved only push mockery reasons for the action.
In actuality, only rare occasions during feudal government eras were wars based on reasons other than economy. When one person had ultimate command,
and decided that someone upset him enough to declare war on his or her country. Every once in a while, we have war like actions, to present our
supremacy, or to protect our invested interests. But rarely does this ever turn into full-scale war.
To sum it up, war is never about tyrants being brought down. Iraq is ruled by one, but there are other countries currently ruled by tyrants, some far
worse than Saddam. We have not set siege to these places, because they have no impact on us economically. Once again it boils down to money. The
real question is, will Bush stop before the rest of the world decides enough is enough, or will he continue his crusade for oil and riches?
If you disagree with my points, that is fine, but please do not just go off what you heard somewhere else, research your response and opinion,
otherwise it is not yours, it is only what you heard.
As a final note, I was against starting the war, but since it started, I realize that if we stopped, it would make matters worse. Now we have a
chance to stop, lets take that chance. Support our troops does not mean accept our leaders choices. I pray they return home safely, and pray for
those on both sides, innocent or soldier that died in this conflict will rest in peace.
Before you stop and spit on a Muslim, remember Christians have killed several times more than Muslims or any other religous group. More then have died
even during Rome's power. Remember, Religion is no reason to praise one's morals or justification, the facts will betray you. This also means
religion is no place to wage war, though it is often used as a means to recruit soldiers. Stop the Jihad and embrace the difference of views.
America is the land of freedom, worship is one of those freedoms, respect that, show the Muslims we are not against them.