letting my mind run a bit, for whatever it's worth.
In a universe a butterfly flaps it's wings, causing a tornado. The butterfly sees that it has caused the tornado. Decides to cause another tornado,
flaps it's wings, only this time there is no tornado, leaving a frustrated Butterfly.
[footnote: beware of very determined, VERY frustrated butterflies, especially if they are carnivorous or bloodsucking or just given to malicious
What it speaks to is cause and effect. We are trained by our experiences in the Universe to expect that first you have cause, then you have effect.
Now imagine an 'S' curve structure where the effect comes prior in time to the effect. This would be in the order of someone doing actual time
travel within the same universe [not just parallel Universe jumping]. A future action is taken, someone decides to and travels into the past, they do
something in that past that causes events to unfold from that point into subsequent events in that universe. This creates the question of inverted
cause and effect making it effect then cause. Keep in mind there might be natural time 'S' curves that are not this elaborated.
It raises the original question again did the butterfly infact cause the tornado? This also is closely associated with the fundamental question of
fate and will. Are we something that extends in however a minute quantity beyond the Universe [or at least some levels of the Universe] so that we can
have some kind of 'free will' or are we so 'of the universe'that we are simply at the mercy of ongoing events?
I guess being humans that create all kinds of shelters, physical, economic, mental, we probably have more chance at experiencing some kind of 'free
will' state. This would ofcourse be personal from individual to individual and be temporally limited for different spans of time. [sometimes, maybe
always, this would be illusitory, but, functionally speaking, might for some limited time period operate as a free will.]
sorry, this is sounding pretty dribbly.
When you get old your mind wanders.
Maybe we have to loosen our attachment to cause and effect and always start by initially descibing events as disassociated. The very nature of our
brains is making connections, maybe we have to slow the tendency to too quickly make those connections. If nothing else i think it would allow us to
see things in finer and more precise detail. Sort of like softening ones focus on the world [visual is a good place to start]. Instead of focusing on
say a letter, word or the ideas being discussed, relax ones mind and see peripherally as well as that which is in front of us, softly all at once. It
allows things to drift to you slowly, instead of reaching so aggressively/desperately with ones own mind. Obviously there would probably be better
times and places for this than others.
anyway I'll go play in my spreadsheet.