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Topic started on 13-11-2011 @ 05:15 PM by Thermo Klein
When alone we sometimes say things aloud that we would never say to someone else (I could kill that guy!, for example) and often those things are not accurate, but a natural way for our mind to deal with emotions. Carl Jung wrote extensively about the subconcious and Shadow side of our personality, and Freud about our Id - protected by the superego.

It is very natural for our animal instincts to come out as a way of dealing with anxiety, for example, as a 13 year old kid your Mom says to take out the garbage and inside your mind somewhere you imagine stabbing her... you never meant any harm to dear old Mom, but your mind will fill in imagined behaviors for how you feel, at 13, when someone takes away your freedom or power. Your Superego will protect and hide that base emotion and the kill you idea never leaves our mouth.

BUT... as stated above, when we're ALONE sometimes that superego filter is "off" and we might just yell at the laptop, say things to Dick Cheney, or whomever that could get us in trouble if anyone heard...

Here-in lies the problem,

The government IS LISTENING!! Through cell phones, laptops, little secret flying bugs or laser trackers if you're the lucky target.

How GOOD (sic) is their software that tracks us? What things do they take out? If I say aloud that I'm going to kill that mother-[snip]! How much does the government tracker software get from us? If you're a minister by day but really let your temper out at home,.. will that come back to haunt you?

finally, what is done with all this enormous amount of data they have against us? This is a big area of study but I mostly want to know if what I say in my private home will have an outer affect on my LIFE, simply because someone is listening but didn't have the technology to correctly understand my meaning or intention.



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Why did I get "snipped" if I didn't put anything but asterisks?? hmm... a perfect example of my thread?
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reply posted on 13-11-2011 @ 05:41 PM by DerepentLEstranger
reply to post by Thermo Klein



here's my advice
don't live in fear

the day government agents show up at my house because of something a hidden mike heard,
they will be told to f off

and the very instant they initiate the use of force against me
is the day the government learns a very painful lesson.

if they want to be sneaky about it
that's just fine with me
as i can be really sneaky myself



reply posted on 13-11-2011 @ 05:45 PM by Thermo Klein
reply to post by DerepentLEstranger



no fear here, this is reality. They're listening; we know this. What happens to the information in some covert back room? If how often I yell, what I say, how often I watch pornography or something goes into their record, then I want to at least see if their info is accurate!

Just for example say you were a wonderful human being who accidentally said the "kill Dick Cheney" line at some point. Imagine if some computer somewhere blocked your getting a security clearance!

This is a very real question in the U.S. of today.


reply posted on 13-11-2011 @ 06:26 PM by DerepentLEstranger
reply to post by Thermo Klein



didn't mean that it's not happening
as for security clearances don't care

i'm a practicing anarchist and invisibilist

i have no use for those diseased humanoids


sure sometimes it's a tough life , but I removed my consent a long time ago, and do not regret it
fringe benefits no taxes at all, and i keep everything i make.

highly recommended site for the practical aspect : globalguerrillas.typepad.com...

lol and don't forget to stock up on tinfoil


reply posted on 13-11-2011 @ 06:30 PM by charles1952
reply to post by Thermo Klein



I think you're right in assessing the governments capability, but it goes beyond that. In this case I'm thinking about laser mics which have been around for decades now. I believe that our protection is in volume. It's a pain in the butt to generate the paperwork and reports involved in starting a surveillance, but times 300,000,000? Of which 99.9% have said something they shouldn't have. Then someone has to listen to the intercepts that the machine spits out as possibles. Then, how does it get used? In court where defense teams get discovery? Everybody gets tried in secret courts and then never released so they can't talk about it?

My defense is in not being a person of interest, or "boring" as our friends at the Bureau like to say.


reply posted on 13-11-2011 @ 08:34 PM by Thermo Klein
reply to post by charles1952



I'm fairly outspoken and expect I'm on a few lists here n there. I use my human right of free speech and appreciate I'm not likely to be killed for it. Not going for security clearances either... but I do think about the possibilities of all this info out there.

boring sounds good but honestly something in me needs to speak up


reply posted on 14-11-2011 @ 10:13 AM by TruthIncarnate
Originally posted by Thermo Klein

It is very natural for our animal instincts to come out as a way of dealing with anxiety, for example, as a 13 year old kid your Mom says to take out the garbage and inside your mind somewhere you imagine stabbing her...


Wow that's jammed packed with latent content, clear unresolved Oedipus complex (knife being a phallic object etc)

But on topic, TV is basically a massive psycho-analytical experiment imo, if you're actually worth your salt when it comes to Freud. Jung, symbolism etc its pretty easy to see, on most British Broadcasts where 'canned laughter' is used its actual function is not to act as a 'cue' for the audience at home to laugh but rather to satisfy your subconscious desires by creating a 'social - orgasm', the crescendo of which is usually characterized by a loud applause.

Another common technique to help 'immerse' the audience is to include two common setting, one which symbolizes the fictional characters home (normally a place of gathering such as a pub, bar, coffee shop etc) the other symbolizes the audiences home (normally a house with lots of room mates) these setting is always used in the opening scene of the show (after the opening credits) and helps induce a sense of emotive similarity.

This and much more is done for one reason: MONEY ! Its why if you pay for advertising slots the first slot (the first advert the audience see at home after watching a program for however long) is the most expensive, because the audiences subconscious is in a SUPER suggestible state, this state normally starts to disappear once the last few adverts come on before the next part of the show (thats why they are the cheapest).

PM if you want to know more :::
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