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Originally posted by TheMindWar
Or is the pope trying hard to destroy catholisism to make way for a new world religion?
Originally posted by purplemer
With stuff like this going down I wonder if the church is the Antichrist..
Sounds to me like the same sort of thing Judaism is pushing for, with their Noahide Laws, so we will end up with two more layers of government on top of us, from the "Church" and the "Rabbinical Council".
Sounds like imposing religious based laws upon society so that the Church(from which the standard comes) can be reformed. In other words, make the students smarter so they can straighten out the teacher
Originally posted by purplemer
I do not really understand this. If an attitude like this is true then you can see why there are so many problems with the church and children.
How can someone that is the head of the church say this. This is a perversion. Pope Benedict XVI should step down and the church should have a good long hard look at itself.
We live in some real messed up times...
thenewcivi lrightsmovement.com
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What you forget is that some people do teach their kids these things in their early years. On a farm a father may teach his 12 year old child how to properly handle a gun and hunt. The father may also teach the child how to drive the tractor around the farm. The father does this because he believes that instilling a sense of responsibility, maturity, and independence at a young age will greatly lessen their chances of making a mistake later on. Parents who try to hide the reality of sex from their child only serve to keep their children ignorant of the dangers of sex. Kids will see it as this mysterious "evil" thing that only adults should do (and it should be late at night sealed in a dark room under the covers and as quiet as possible). Then when they get the natural urge to partake in a sexual experience, they are completely ignorant of the consequences because everyone has hidden the reality of sex from them. Then they blame it on the fact they are "too young and stupid".
Many people would never let a young teenager drive a car... or fire and hunt with a high powered rifle... or drive a tractor down a tobbacco path... but argue that sex is a natural desire and normal developement... but do we want children raising children...we have that now in society...how is that working?
Originally posted by purplemer
Pope: Pedophilia Was "Fully In Conformity With Man And Even With Children"
thenewcivi lrightsmovement.com
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In an end-of-year, shocking Christmas statement to Cardinals and other Vatican officials, Pope Benedict XVI said, “In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorised as something fully in conformity with man and even with children,” and added that paedophilia wasn’t even considered an “absolute evil,” according to a report in the Belfast Telegraph.
“Pope Benedict XVI also claimed that child pornography was increasingly considered “normal” by society.
Originally posted by purplemer
Pope Benedict XVI should step down and the church should have a good long hard look at itself.
We live in some real messed up times...
wiki-link
The Prophecy of the Popes, attributed to Saint Malachy, is a list of 112 short phrases in Latin. They purport to describe each of the Roman Catholic popes (along with a few anti-popes), beginning with Pope Celestine II (elected in 1143) and concluding with the successor of current pope Benedict XVI, a pope described in the prophecy as "Peter the Roman", whose pontificate will end in the destruction of the city of Rome.
Originally posted by blackthorne
i must surmise then that his holiness is a fan of the penn state nittany lions?
seriously. this guy is sick. the church has done many good things through history, true. it is sad though when you have things like the priests and the cover ups, places like the magdalene sisters in ireland, (essentially church and state sanctioned slavery of girls and women, not unlike islam) that have corrupted an institution that could do so much good in the world.
Originally posted by verschickter
reply to post by purplemer
Believe it or not! What the curch is or not has nothing to do with SPIEGEL, what you try now is playing a game.
But I see who your friends are...
We were all the more dismayed, then, when in this year of all years and to a degree we could not have imagined, we came to know of abuse of minors committed by priests who twist the sacrament into its antithesis, and under the mantle of the sacred profoundly wound human persons in their childhood, damaging them for a whole lifetime.
We are well aware of the particular gravity of this sin committed by priests and of our corresponding responsibility. But neither can we remain silent regarding the context of these times in which these events have come to light. There is a market in child pornography that seems in some way to be considered more and more normal by society. The psychological destruction of children, in which human persons are reduced to articles of merchandise, is a terrifying sign of the times. From Bishops of developing countries I hear again and again how sexual tourism threatens an entire generation and damages its freedom and its human dignity. The Book of Revelation includes among the great sins of Babylon – the symbol of the world’s great irreligious cities – the fact that it trades with bodies and souls and treats them as commodities (cf. Rev 18:13). In this context, the problem of drugs also rears its head, and with increasing force extends its octopus tentacles around the entire world – an eloquent expression of the tyranny of mammon which perverts mankind. No pleasure is ever enough, and the excess of deceiving intoxication becomes a violence that tears whole regions apart – and all this in the name of a fatal misunderstanding of freedom which actually undermines man’s freedom and ultimately destroys it.
In order to resist these forces, we must turn our attention to their ideological foundations. In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorized as something fully in conformity with man and even with children. This, however, was part of a fundamental perversion of the concept of ethos. It was maintained – even within the realm of Catholic theology – that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself. There is only a “better than” and a “worse than”. Nothing is good or bad in itself. Everything depends on the circumstances and on the end in view. Anything can be good or also bad, depending upon purposes and circumstances. Morality is replaced by a calculus of consequences, and in the process it ceases to exist. The effects of such theories are evident today. Against them, Pope John Paul II, in his 1993 Encyclical Letter Veritatis Splendor, indicated with prophetic force in the great rational tradition of Christian ethos the essential and permanent foundations of moral action. Today, attention must be focussed anew on this text as a path in the formation of conscience. It is our responsibility to make these criteria audible and intelligible once more for people today as paths of true humanity, in the context of our paramount concern for mankind.
Is just so conveniently left out.
This, however, was part of a fundamental perversion of the concept of ethos.