Originally posted by Annee
You are one of those "I am not religious - but believe in God. I have gay friends - - but . . . "
Really? How did you come by that?
I believe in something... I am spiritual. I dont believe in religion. I use it as a gerneral word that pretty much lables all beliefs. Specificly,
I believe religion is evil.
I have gay friends.. Family.. In Laws.. Oh yeah.. did I mention Family? I have to add that a few times since there are more than just one or two.
Actually, thinking about it here... 6 family members, some of them first cousins, in my family are gay... that I know of.
I hang out with them, so dont get your panties in a wad thinkin that I am the kind of person that hates someone for what they believe. This is mainly
how I feel what I feel. Simply put... These family members are generaly close.. Still close enough to have a conversation with without someone
getting hateful about it. This is something you just cant do with your average every day gay on the street. Why? I have no idea. Maybe it's
PERSONAL for them. Guilt even? I dont know, I just know the outcome. So yes, we've had in depth discussions.
Me and my sister in law pick at each other constantly. She calls me a Fag... I call her a Dike. We cut up, we joke, we hug, she hangs by my side, we
wrestle... and still she is a lesbian. And again.. We talk about this kind of stuff alot, whenever I have a question. She doesnt look down on me for
So, as you see, I have my own reasons, my own education and my own thoughts on this subject.
Ya know what... I found 1 VERY previlant thing that stands out with every single one of them... No, it's not that they all breathe, eat, walk,
appear like one another... Yet I can gleen from what I know, and what I've been told, and what was discussed as to the very possible reason for
being gay and lesbian. I've also heard some very startiling comments comming from most of them that leaves me to believe that it's a choice.
Why wont I share with you? Simply put... It wouldnt matter. You'd have your own opinion, and I could really care less if I changed it one slight
little bit. Your OPINIONS are your own, just as mine are my own. Yet, I have my reasons as I've outlined to you specificly in the past. Still, the
only thing you ever brought to the table was... I worked with them, So... Some of my family ARE them. I think they are a little more open with
their feelings and personal stuff than the average guy or gal on the street. So I take what they say as my proof and what I've seen and what I've
come to know. Unless you can show me counter evidence, which you never have, then why even bother arguing with me? Just go on your merry way and
avoid your frustration. You know by now, miss, that I will argue with you on your points untill you show me something of real worth.
You want proof of the negative "studies on the negatives how gays were molested/raped etc to persuade their "behavior" - - - but turn a blind eye
to positive studies and personal testimonies of born gay.
nope... I never turn a blind eye unless the information is biased. I have seen so called "positive" studies. All of which had no basis. All of
which has also stated the obvious problems as to why it can not be stated as a fact. It's only theory and thoughts... There IS no proof. Had there
been any, one would think that this would no longer be a question. Then, sure, I know the minds of many will still argue it.
Why else would I believe the world is still flat...?
The testimonies dont mean anything if I have conflicting testimonies. This is what you're not understanding perhaps...
Stop playing games.
You bring only your personal opinions/assumptions to this discussion.
I left my personal opinions/assumptions at the door long ago. I took it upon myself to educate myself.
But I must.. That's the only way I can find humor in this topic and the fact that you accept your ideal readily as fact, and even though you tell me
to accept some sort of evidence that does not exist, any that I would give you, you would do the same. So how is that any diffrent?
I have brought more than assumptions and personal opinions to this discussion more than once. Even my "assumptions" hold more water than anything
you put forth...
Still you're calling the kettle black when it's not. You accuse me of bringing assumptions and opinions, because working with a few gay people made
you more enlightened... Wow... So, thats how it works huh? You're word is better than mine because......??? I'm still waiting...
You bring no more than you accuse me of lacking.
I consider this educating myself, and yet I have left, nor see any opinions/assumptions of mine in which you speak... if you find one, let me know...
I'll compare it with yours as soon as I can! Promise!