That is a great question! I am new here, but I have been fooling with the Mars stuff for several months now. In that relatively short time, I have seen enough real anomalies, that I am convinced about ET life, and I am convinced about life on Mars. Humanoid life has been there, and "maybe" is still there, either on the surface, or under the surface. I haven't seen any "city ruins" yet, but I have seen ruins of civilized people.

I have found what I consider to be significant evidence of "intelligent design" on Mars in numerous places, with some of the places having been almost completely devastated at sometime in the past. Direct meteorite hit is the "rational" from NASA. And, either it did not happen very long ago, or, it surely does take a long time for stuff to "decay" on some areas of Mars.

I will begin to post these anomalies for everyone, with screenshots and links, whenever I am able to do that here (after my 20 reply comments) .

Originally posted by rdunk
I haven't seen any "city ruins" yet, but I have seen ruins of civilized people.

Could you please explain what do you mean by that?

Thanks in advance.

Originally posted by mandroids
LadyTeeny, very interesting videos. thnaks for that. Do you believe them?

yes, i do. when you add up all the other anomalies on phobos, buzz aldrin talking about it online, the fact that i've seen plenty of evidence for life outside this planet, i do.

couple that with our governments general economy with the truth, i think there's a greater chance that the unknown is more likely than the 'known'.

it also makes me wonder if our civilisation was started with refugees from that planet. who knows!

Originally posted by radtech34
i was on the mars recon orbiter hirise website a few months after they started showing images from the satellite,they had a zoom function,so i started looking at the images,i saw a profile of a face in the image so i looked behind the eye in the profile and zoomed close and i saw a large face with eyes a nose and a mouth with a helmet,i didn't think of taking a video my screen,withn 24 hrs they cropped the image to cut part of the photo off and removed the whole image in a week,i know pictures or it didnt happen,but i would take a lie dector test,and if you go to www.marsanomalyresearch.com skipper has photos of lakes and what he and i also believe are forest top canopies,i am a college grad,i'm smart,i know what i saw,i could of had a million hits on youtube,and been in a history book,nasa took that away from me.

So, youre a college grad, and you dont know how to write a basic paragraph? I hate to ask what college you graduated from. Probably Penn State.

For reference, there is a space in between a comma. Not to mention your entire post is a continuous comma splice.

That being said, im interested in what you say.

What did Buzz Aldrin say online? please post or link.

Post or link whatever you feel would be interesting.

Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by rdunk
I haven't seen any "city ruins" yet, but I have seen ruins of civilized people.

Could you please explain what do you mean by that?

Thanks in advance.

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Hi ArMaP! I could have been a little more clear than that. I just haven't seen what looked like the identifiable ruins of the buildings of a Martian city. With my term "ruins of civilized people", I am saying that I have seen plenty of artificial artifacts at sites that just have to be the remnants of a "civilized people" having been here, on Mars.

Now, I can't say whether these people actually lived here on Mars, or were just sojourners here for temporary purposes. Some of the sites I am referring to don't have the appearance of having been places to live. Rather, they likely were there for other reasons -- (just guessing) maybe monuments of some sort, or places of burial, etc. Obviously, the "surface remnants" I mentioned could be those of people that actually live under the surface.

The obvious "obfuscations" by NASA in the Mars Rover and Orbiter photographs make it very difficult to see much of the real truth of what the reality of Mars is. No matter how much we might still be able to find in the "after-tampering" photographs of Mars, it is going to be difficult for we the public to know the truth, until our government is openly reveals it to us, because of public demands.

No charge for that little extra! I do look forward to posting soon!

Originally posted by mandroids
I love a good Martian conspiracy. My personal favourite is that Mars may have once been like the Earth, complete with blue skies and cities. However, despite a possible savage and planet ending catastrophe, where are these city ruins? Where are the towns and buildings?

If they were at all like us, I'd expect to find at least some surviving remnants of cities, roads, bridges, etc., near old riverbeds or oceans. That's where all of our big cities are. But there don't seem to be any. Maybe they were more like bees than people.

Originally posted by madjetxe
Underground where all buildings should be,cost efficient ,heat and cool sufficient.Why we build above ground
it is stupid.

It takes a lot of time and effort to dig holes, especially in rock. If you're digging in softer ground, it takes a lot of strong structural material to keep the ground from collapsing in on you. And there's always the problem of pumping water when you hit the water table. So it's expensive, and the deeper you go, the more expensive it gets, regardless of the potential savings in energy costs.

If you're nomadic, and follow herds to stay alive, digging an underground home would be a huge waste of time and energy. And if you are occasionally attacked by other tribes, being underground is a very good way to get trapped.

Originally posted by butcherguy
If a Martian civilization existed say, one million years ago, there probably would be nothing left of their cities.

Hard to tell. The ruins certainly wouldn't be subjected to the same kind of erosion that we get here on Earth with all the water and earthquakes and plant activity. And if it was that way in the not too distant past, we would have seen more (or any) evidence of it.

What I don't get is the way the rocks on Mars generally look so fresh and jagged. It seems to me that after a few billion years of being scrubbed by sandstorms, as mild as they might be, the rocks would be a lot more smooth and round. It makes me think that there was a more recent large, planet-wide meteor bombardment there that no one has mentioned.

So I don't know. Either way, there don't seem to be any city ruins.

Originally posted by ArMaP

"I hope that you will show some of those "obfuscations" in your future threads, as I haven't seen anything that looks like obfuscation in any photos".
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Yes, hopefully I can do that for you and others. Some of what I am referring to is just plain "unnatural" shadowing of objects and surface sites. Another piece of tampering evidence is obvious significant differences in the same specific "rocks" in Rover photos taken on quite different sol days.

Quote: "And although I am one of those people that do not see any artifacts (only rocks and other natural features)"

ArMaP, I am also hopeful that somewhere in the artifacts I have to post, that just maybe you will be able to see some things unnatural, and seemingly of intelligent
design. I generally do not post "just rocks"!

Thanks for your comments!