Originally posted by troylawson
I just have a question for you Mason-lovers and Masons alike. "What's with all the secrecy?" If you really help those you purport to help then why
don't we all here about it in the news and newspapers?
Well, Troy, that's a good question. I'll try to answer it based on my observations.
The secrecy only applies to the ritual and modes and means of recognition. Membership is hardly secret, look in your local white pages and you will
find all the lodges listed in your area under MASONIC and/or MASONRY, and in the yellow pages under Fraternities. Hardly a secret.
We also answer the assertions and questions of folks like yourself on this and many other forums, many of us (Theron Dunn, Alex Kennedy et al) using
our own real names, again, hardly secret. As for what we do in the community, that also is not a secret, though in years past it has been the practice
of many grand lodges, mine included, to discourage the brethren from seeking public acknowledgement for our good works.
Charity is commanded of us by g-d, and it is one of the principle tenets of our fraternity. Among the many things we do are:
KIDS/Child ID programs
Angel Programs that provide funding for folks that need assistance
Hospital Visits and service
Shrine Hospitals (Burn Centers and Orthopedic Centers)'
Scottish Rite Speech and Language Centers
Outright cash donations
Community Service, for instance with the Habitat for Humanity
Veterans Outreach programs
The total monies that are donated each year from our major programs totals over $762 MILLION, and that is NOT including lodge level donations. I hope
this helps answer your question.
It's rather like the Mormons, when it comes right down to it, only members are allowed in the temples. I was always given the "It's not
secret, it's sacred." rap the whole time I was a Mormon. And the closest I ever got to the temple was the freeway going by the temple.
Funny you should mention that... Brigham Young and Joseph Smith among THOUSANDS of others WERE Masons. In Navoo, in a single day ceremony that got his
charter pulled, Joseph Smith Raised over 2300 master masons in one day...
As for secrecy, well. the only things secret about masonry are our rituals, our means of recognition, and the business meetings of the lodge. Are you
somehow under the impression that we should allow the public into those meetings?
I am not saying Masons=Mormons (you draw your own conclusions) but in many ways they are similar. I think truth should be ABSOLUTE. Meaning
truth=truth. Truth is never conditional and is always true in all cases for all people or else it ceases to be truth by definition.
Well, that's and interesting assertion. Ripe Apples are Red and Ripe Pears are green. Those are two facts. Those two facts, however, are not equal.
The logical fallacy in your statement therefore, makes it useless. The fact that Masons and Mormons have issues in COMMON, however, is true. I can see
you have real issues with the Mormon church, however, but those issues do not relate at all to Masonry.
There's none of this 'your truth isn't my truth' smack.
Uh, my friend, I haven't seen that posted ANYWHERE. What has been written is that a lack of facts does not equal a fact. You haven't really written
anything about masonry except that you are concerned about it being a secret society, and then a strange attempt to make Masonry equal Mormonism. Not
at all the same. That is not a subjective truth, it is a simple truth.
I will be honest, I wouldn't know the truth if it was staring me in the face. I will not talk to masons, because they will have a certain
bias, if you don't realize that then you are a fool.
Well, no one is claiming not to have a bias, but if you want to know the truth about a thing, it seems to make sense to go to someone that knows a
thing or two about the subject, then filter their answers against their position on what it is you are researching. Don't take my word for it, go
read, look it up, ask questions, DENY IGNORANCE. That is all I ask for... don't try to live by conjecture alone, feed your mind with facts... to
quote a great man, the TRUTH will set you free.
It would be like going to their website if they have one. You won't get truth there, you may get a real nice story, or puffery but the truth
will elude you. To get to the truth you need to dig through the pile of rubbish. Any other suggestions are welcome. Noone in my family are masons.
Well, Troy, as I noted above, do the due dilligence. DO the research. Don't look just at masonic sites, look at the hate sites put up by those
opposed to masonry, examine their arguments, compare them with the truths that we offer, then, for g-d's sake, make up your own mind.
No one is trying to convert you. As masons, we are here to refute the lies told about us by those who style themselves Masonic Critics. You don't
seem to have any information about Masonry, but a sincere suspicion, and that's really ok. You have live in ignorance about the subject, or you can
get out and learn about it, or you can ignore the whole thing. The choice, really, is yours...
Thanks for posting.