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posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Thutmoseii

Kid, have you been to war? Please, let the adults talk.

No offense but war is not glorious, no matter how many movies youve seen, books youve read or play scenes youve enacted with your friends.

When youre desperately trying to patch a sucking chest wound and your friend is gasping for air as the life fades from his eyes and he gargles his last breath....you kind of wake the # up, as they say.


Welcome to ATS.

I think he missed the sarcastic message I was trying to send.


It would indeed appear so my friend and thanks. Been lurking for awhile now....decided to start popping in to add my 2 cents. I feel im a rare breed when it comes to this kind of stuff. I ask a lot of questions and Im pretty good at seeing things connect.

Im one of the more "logical" that believe in what I believe I suppose. IDK but Im hoping to spread some reality. Well see. lol

Seeing kids the age of 15 sitting around playing their PC games envisioning their world take over b/c they might sorta have a little bit of lineage somewhere down the line to some greek guy that had the same name as another one who lead armies to battle is kind of funny but meh....he is 12 or 15 or whatever anyway right? Let him have his fun.




posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade

Originally posted by villunder

What i really do not understand is who is behind that movement . Who pull the strings . I have a feeling that these people are used for a much more sinister purpose . It's not only the OWS , it's global .
You can really feel that something major is gonna happen.


It's too bad more people within the movement aren't thinking the same and asking the same questions.

Younger Americans being made to believe in a cause, an agenda and demands that were never theirs to begin with... Used and ultimately discarded in a wasted effort, that will not let them go until the bitter, and possibly violent end.... What, and who do they really serve, and to what end ultimately?

Ah, but most really don't care, they just want to be a part of it, a part of something that goes against the system... Primed for blindly following a movement like this, even if it leads them all off of a cliff.






So who is pulling the strings and for what? Is it communism, socialism, greys, reptillians, andromedans, bush, reagan, clinton, stalin, hitler, paris hilton, liz clairborne, blair, saddam hussein awakend from the dead, zombies of the apocalypse???

The possibiliities are TRUELY ENDLESS and so is the paranoia. When the Tea Party had front and center all was well and protesting was encouraged. Now that the movement started abroad in the middle east(or spain) somehow it is sinister.



posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 06:59 PM
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Unless the whole globe becomes a bunch of ultra right wing lunatics, "yes sir" corporate worshipers, lets nuke iran warmongers some people will by unhappy. Tough luck fellas. Suck it up like a good christian and turn the cheek so I can slap you again.



posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by Paschar0
reply to post by supine
 


It is truly unfortunate that you want to kill the thread because people disagree in a way you don't like. People are passionate about this and it's finally something worth being passionate over.

The overall point to these protests is important. Government does not respect the people whatsoever. Peaceful means will do NOTHING. Violence or better yet the THREAT of violence from large enough gatherings will bring about change more effectively than anything else.

The trouble is getting the change necessary without crossing so far over the line that things turn into all out anarchy and you lose all law and order. To me, it's ABSOLUTELY worth the price, because without some basic freedoms TAKEN back, what's the point.

If you're not willing to fight for what's important, then stay the hell out of the way.


You ARE NOT EVEN WORTHY OF A REPLY FROM ME!
But you are getting one ............LOL
And to add: another video worthy of you!


Frick off~


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posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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To quote the words of John F. Kennedy himself:

"If the means for peaceful revolution are taken away, violent revolution becomes inevitable."



posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 07:20 PM
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I think this guy puts it best:

anarchy

Everybody’s been too damn polite about this nonsense:






Everybody’s been too damn polite about this nonsense:



The “Occupy” movement, whether displaying itself on Wall Street or in the streets of Oakland (which has, with unspeakable cowardice, embraced it) is anything but an exercise of our blessed First Amendment. “Occupy” is nothing but a pack of louts, thieves, and rapists, an unruly mob, fed by Woodstock-era nostalgia and putrid false righteousness. These clowns can do nothing but harm America.

“Occupy” is nothing short of a clumsy, poorly-expressed attempt at anarchy, to the extent that the “movement” – HAH! Some “movement”, except if the word “bowel” is attached - is anything more than an ugly fashion statement by a bunch of iPhone, iPad wielding spoiled brats who should stop getting in the way of working people and find jobs for themselves.

This is no popular uprising. This is garbage. And goodness knows they’re spewing their garbage – both politically and physically – every which way they can find.


This is what happens when the left side of the nation "protests" They break laws, are vile, can't "peaceably" assemble. It's all just "look at me! look at me!" and the end result is so predictable.



posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Unless the whole globe becomes a bunch of ultra right wing lunatics, "yes sir" corporate worshipers, lets nuke iran warmongers some people will by unhappy. Tough luck fellas. Suck it up like a good christian and turn the cheek so I can slap you again.


I'm somewhere to the right of John Wayne and Ronald Reagan. Feel free to try and slap me, hippie.



posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 07:24 PM
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Don't worry if the people bashing the protesters and others who respond to things by posting videos get their way, we'll live in a 1984 world on steroids. They're either useful idiots or unworthy of the freedom given to them, in either case I have no use for you and thankfully there is a growing number that agree.



posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 07:29 PM
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What I find noteworthy is this:

I teach at a state university. When I go to see the Dean of LAS (Letters, Arts & Sciences, if you're not familiar), I have to walk down a hallway of history/psych/lit prof's offices. Their doors are covered with peace signs, "close gitmo" "save the manatee" "PETA" stickers, "BUS IS EVIL!" "celebrate diversity!" "diverse celibacy!" on and on and on.

When I return to the engineering building, all the math/engineering/comp-sci/physics profs doors are covered with: "turn in your HW here."

enough said.



posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by Paschar0
Don't worry if the people bashing the protesters and others who respond to things by posting videos get their way, we'll live in a 1984 world on steroids. They're either useful idiots or unworthy of the freedom given to them, in either case I have no use for you and thankfully there is a growing number that agree.


Freedom of expression, and freedom of speech carry with them responsibility for what is expressed and spoken. The first amendment doesn't give you the right to be vile and commit crimes.



posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by supine
reply to post by nenothtu
 

Gawwwwwwwwwwww, and speaking from so much gut renching frustratration..........

This is all getting puke worthy.......

Pointless, relenless bickering back and forth.

I don't know about you, but I am wondering if I really share a planet with some of these people!


I'm very well aware that I share the same planet with some of these people. They, it appears, don't like to share. More properly, I suppose, is their insistence on determining who shares what with whom - who they will share with, and determining for me whom I will share with.

For that they are willing to go to war - an action they so claim to detest. I've been to war. Ironically, against the same sort of people. It seems to me they would have realized that the last few dozen times didn't pan out all that well for them, but I must give them points for persistence.

Fine. There are some people on this planet that just can't learn, and have to have a war at every throw of the dice. Nothing else will satisfy them. I say to them "what in the hell are you waiting for? JUMP! I'm not getting any younger, you know."

Yeah, I'm a little impatient with folks who think they can get their way by intimidation and violence. When I was a kid, that was called "bullying". Now, apparently, it's called "collectivism" - but it's still the same thing, no matter the verbiage it's dressed in.

In all honesty, I was just reading this thread for the entertainment value, watching all the Bantam roosters strutting around, puffing their chests out and crowing just like they thought they were big roosters.

They're so cute when they do that, you know?

I was particularly amused by the tactical wizard who fancied himself the reincarnation of Alexander. He must have studied Alexandrian Tactics out of comic books. The plan he developed, if executed in the real world, would result in a whole lot of hurt alright - just not for the ones he was aiming at. My grandmother could have a mob employing his "strategy" handcuffed within 15 minutes, even while they were still choking and puking all over themselves.

Like I said, I was just reading for amusement, and hadn't intended to participate at all.

THEN came the post I responded to. In the midst of all the false bravado of chest thumping and saber-rattling, THAT guy is real. He means it, and I believe has already been involved in some of the "organization" efforts to promote the violence, unless I miss my guess.

In a sea of emotional wannabes and posers, hooting and chest thumping,one serious man stood up, and I addressed his post. That one I can respect as a worthy adversary, and it will be a pleasure to meet him in the field. I can't even say that I disagree altogether with his ideology.

The rest? They will fall like wheat before the scythe.



edit on 2011/11/12 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by tangonine
What I find noteworthy is this:

I teach at a state university. When I go to see the Dean of LAS (Letters, Arts & Sciences, if you're not familiar), I have to walk down a hallway of history/psych/lit prof's offices. Their doors are covered with peace signs, "close gitmo" "save the manatee" "PETA" stickers, "BUS IS EVIL!" "celebrate diversity!" "diverse celibacy!" on and on and on.

When I return to the engineering building, all the math/engineering/comp-sci/physics profs doors are covered with: "turn in your HW here."

enough said.


That is why they call true leftists(not necessarily marxists) progressives and true righties as status quo holders.

If you like the way the world is run now then keep voting republican or libertarian. You will get exactly what you want.



posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by Paschar0
Don't worry if the people bashing the protesters and others who respond to things by posting videos get their way, we'll live in a 1984 world on steroids. They're either useful idiots or unworthy of the freedom given to them, in either case I have no use for you and thankfully there is a growing number that agree.


Think so? The seed was planted years ago, and then we all let it slip...easy to be comfortable in you own living room:




posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by tangonine

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Unless the whole globe becomes a bunch of ultra right wing lunatics, "yes sir" corporate worshipers, lets nuke iran warmongers some people will by unhappy. Tough luck fellas. Suck it up like a good christian and turn the cheek so I can slap you again.


I'm somewhere to the right of John Wayne and Ronald Reagan. Feel free to try and slap me, hippie.


I am supposed to feel offended? Normally I don't slap people cause its "girlish" if you know what I mean. I am a bit militant as I own three guns and lots of ammo. I can shoot 60 yards relatively on mark but hey I am no sniper. Maybe I will perfect that later on though.............


No veiled threats buddy, just trying to explain i am no "tree loving hippie". I also have some gay friends with guns!



posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by tangonine

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Unless the whole globe becomes a bunch of ultra right wing lunatics, "yes sir" corporate worshipers, lets nuke iran warmongers some people will by unhappy. Tough luck fellas. Suck it up like a good christian and turn the cheek so I can slap you again.


I'm somewhere to the right of John Wayne and Ronald Reagan. Feel free to try and slap me, hippie.


You leftie you! I'm just to the right of Atilla the Hun - so far right I damn near wrap around to the left!

I'll be in line right behind you to get my share of the hippieslaps, too.

Wouldn't want you to have all the fun!



posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by supine

Originally posted by Paschar0
Don't worry if the people bashing the protesters and others who respond to things by posting videos get their way, we'll live in a 1984 world on steroids. They're either useful idiots or unworthy of the freedom given to them, in either case I have no use for you and thankfully there is a growing number that agree.


Think so? The seed was planted years ago, and then we all let it slip...easy to be comfortable in you own living room:




People have been telling us foe years while we slumber
edit on 12-11-2011 by supine because: I apologize at my attempt to imbed this video, which is REM



posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 07:48 PM
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Viva La revolucion........ May God or whatever Sentient Being watches over us protect those that will most surely be attacked tonight!



posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 07:51 PM
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this is as real as the AK47 attack on the white house.
Fail.



posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by tangonine
What I find noteworthy is this:

I teach at a state university. When I go to see the Dean of LAS (Letters, Arts & Sciences, if you're not familiar), I have to walk down a hallway of history/psych/lit prof's offices. Their doors are covered with peace signs, "close gitmo" "save the manatee" "PETA" stickers, "BUS IS EVIL!" "celebrate diversity!" "diverse celibacy!" on and on and on.

When I return to the engineering building, all the math/engineering/comp-sci/physics profs doors are covered with: "turn in your HW here."

enough said.


That is why they call true leftists(not necessarily marxists) progressives and true righties as status quo holders.

If you like the way the world is run now then keep voting republican or libertarian. You will get exactly what you want.


Correct homework?

I don't indoctrinate my students, I teach them fundamentals and let them choose their own path. The liberal arts professors seek to impress their world view on their students. Vile, Despicable, and a plague on our education system.



posted on Nov, 12 2011 @ 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by supine
reply to post by nenothtu
 

Gawwwwwwwwwwww, and speaking from so much gut renching frustratration..........

This is all getting puke worthy.......

Pointless, relenless bickering back and forth.

I don't know about you, but I am wondering if I really share a planet with some of these people!


I'm very well aware that I share the same planet with some of these people. They, it appears, don't like to share. More properly, I suppose, is their insistence on determining who shares what with whom - who they will share with, and determining for me whom I will share with.

For that they are willing to go to war - an action they so claim to detest. I've been to war. Ironically, against the same sort of people. It seems to me they would have realized that the last few dozen times didn't pan out all that well for them, but I must give them points for persistence.

Fine. There are some people on this planet that just can't learn, and have to have a war at every throw of the dice. Nothing else will satisfy them. I say to them "what in the hell are you waiting for? JUMP! I'm not getting any younger, you know."

Yeah, I'm a little impatient with folks who think they can get their way by intimidation and violence. When I was a kid, that was called "bullying". Now, apparently, it's called "collectivism" - but it's still the same thing, no matter the verbiage it's dressed in.

In all honesty, I was just reading this thread for the entertainment value, watching all the Bantam roosters strutting around, puffing their chests out and crowing just like they thought they were big roosters.

They're so cute when they do that, you know?

I was particularly amused by the tactical wizard who fancied himself the reincarnation of Alexander. He must have studied Alexandrian Tactics out of comic books. The plan he developed, if executed in the real world, would result in a whole lot of hurt alright - just not for the ones he was aiming at. My grandmother could have a mob employing his "strategy" handcuffed within 15 minutes, even while they were still choking and puking all over themselves.

Like I said, I was just reading for amusement, and hadn't intended to participate at all.

THEN came the post I responded to. In the midst of all the false bravado of chest thumping and saber-rattling, THAT guy is real. He means it, and I believe has already been involved in some of the "organization" efforts to promote the violence, unless I miss my guess.

In a sea of emotional wannabes and posers, hooting and chest thumping,one serious man stood up, and I addressed his post. That one I can respect as a worthy adversary, and it will be a pleasure to meet him in the field. I can't even say that I disagree altogether with his ideology.

The rest? They will fall like wheat before the scythe.



edit on 2011/11/12 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)



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