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Originally posted by overseer1136
reply to post by OUTofSTEPwithTHEworld
Oh what a happy day for the tax PAYER here in Fl. when that law was passed. 2% of welfare recipients fell off of the books within a month! 3Mil to implement the administrative infrastructure and we're off to the races. Heck yes i supported this because I am NOT paying for some ones weed habit that isn't gonna share!!! I'm also NOT paying for their crack, heroin, oxycontin or whatever else weather or not they"ll share.
Originally posted by sealing
Guess what ?
It ended up costing the state more than ever because less than 2% failed.So the state lost money on top of the welfare because of the cost of paying for all those drug tests.
I love it when neocons think they are gonna stick it to the poor and fail.
(after all they must be on drugs; they are minorities and poor)
Originally posted by watchdog8110
Originally posted by overseer1136
reply to post by OUTofSTEPwithTHEworld
Oh what a happy day for the tax PAYER here in Fl. when that law was passed. 2% of welfare recipients fell off of the books within a month! 3Mil to implement the administrative infrastructure and we're off to the races. Heck yes i supported this because I am NOT paying for some ones weed habit that isn't gonna share!!! I'm also NOT paying for their crack, heroin, oxycontin or whatever else weather or not they"ll share.
When they start doing this on civic or government employees as well you will see an opening in the jobs market real fast . Then also see the unions fighting for the no testing of civic/government employees . Whats good for the goose is good for the gander .
Originally posted by juveous
Just letting you know OP, this was tried in Florida, and 96% passed. It is now under a halt because of the possible violation of the 4th amendment.
Nearly 1,600 welfare applicants have refused to take the test since testing began in mid July, but they aren’t required to say why. Thirty-two applicants failed the test, and more than 7,000 have passed, according to the Department of Children and Families. The majority of positives were for marijuana. Read more: www.miamiherald.com...
Its also debatable whether it saves money, (which is what it really boils down to)
The state paid about $1,140 for the 38 negative tests, while saving less than $240 a month by denying benefits over the two positive tests.
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Originally posted by Skewed
reply to post by juveous
Could you show me in the Constitution where it says:
The government shall take care of people, pay their bills, wipe their ass, etc etc, when the person is lazy and simply does not want to work and want everything handed to them.edit on 10-11-2011 by Skewed because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by juveous
Just letting you know OP, this was tried in Florida, and 96% passed. It is now under a halt because of the possible violation of the 4th amendment.
Nearly 1,600 welfare applicants have refused to take the test since testing began in mid July, but they aren’t required to say why. Thirty-two applicants failed the test, and more than 7,000 have passed, according to the Department of Children and Families. The majority of positives were for marijuana. Read more: www.miamiherald.com...
Its also debatable whether it saves money, (which is what it really boils down to)
The state paid about $1,140 for the 38 negative tests, while saving less than $240 a month by denying benefits over the two positive tests.
colorlines.c om
Originally posted by OUTofSTEPwithTHEworld
If you say "No" do you think people recieving welfare should have to do alternative programs to maintain that help? (eg. attend a program/class 2X month)
If you say "Yes", why do you think so.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by projectvxn
I love me some true conservatives.
To the OP: On the monthly class thing, I think it would be great if there was something for people who could attend - in an effort to help them get on their feet or find help in other ways, make contacts and get information. But I don't think it should be a requirement of receiving Welfare.
I think we need some changes to the system. An overhaul would be nice, but as others have said, drug testing is ineffective and the VAST majority of poverty-stricken people would rather eat than take drugs.
edit on 11/10/2011 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)