at the moment it looks like students and putting together a candle light vigil for the VICTIMS in this case. again focus taken away from who isnt guilty and to the victims...I think this is a good thing

Originally posted by WarminIndy


That is where you and I disagree. Adults have no right to put their hands on other peoples children, period.

So if you saw somebody you know very well playing around with one of their friend's kids your first thought would be that that person was a child molester?

Originally posted by rebellender
at the moment it looks like students and putting together a candle light vigil for the VICTIMS in this case. again focus taken away from who isnt guilty and to the victims...I think this is a good thing

Good for them. The victims need all the support they can get.

Originally posted by King_John

Originally posted by WarminIndy


That is where you and I disagree. Adults have no right to put their hands on other peoples children, period.

So if you saw somebody you know very well playing around with one of their friend's kids your first thought would be that that person was a child molester?

Let's just say this, it would make me nervous enough to not let mine around them.

Originally posted by WarminIndy

Originally posted by King_John

Originally posted by WarminIndy


That is where you and I disagree. Adults have no right to put their hands on other peoples children, period.

So if you saw somebody you know very well playing around with one of their friend's kids your first thought would be that that person was a child molester?

Let's just say this, it would make me nervous enough to not let mine around them.

Wow, ok I guess we'll just have to disagree on that one.

Originally posted by korathin

Originally posted by butcherguy
For many years, Joe Paterno ran a very tight ship at Penn State's football program. He was a model citizen that lived a modest life, donating the largest part of his salary to the school.

All that has changed. Joe did the right thing legally, but in a moral sense, he failed miserably.

Firing him was the right move by the board of trustees, which includes the governor of the state of PA. Joe should have resigned yesterday and saved the fans the disgrace of seeing him fired, which no one would have ever predicted a year ago.

College football is too big.

Universities are supposed to be about higher learning, not about operating a sports business that generates $50 million a year. JMHO.

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Lmao, spoken like a true feminist. I bet you wouldn't be happy till all male sports are outlawed and only women studies classes are offered on Colleges.

Joe did the right thing. He didn't witness the event first hand. If he had witnessed the event first hand he would have had a moral/legal obligation to call the cop's asap. But, based upon the testimony of another he did the only thing he should have, report it to the higher ups. If they failed to respond then the blame falls squarely on them.

By your own admission this isn't about Joe, this is about feminist, male hating bigots like you attacking the "patriarchy". Attacking anything pro-male, or anything that enables male self determination(as College football helps many get an education they wouldn't have been able to get without football; Feminist definition of "Patriarchy"= male individual self determination,exp: My right to decide what to wear, how to vote, what I want to get an education in, whom I choose to marry/date/avoid, what type of job I want to work; all of that is the mythical "patriarchy" that feminist's want to "smash and destroy".).

Bitter...Table Of One! WTF? Are you projecting, or what? Your off-topic rant says a lot more about your attitude about women than anything. At least he was on topic. Maybe your testosterone is clouding your perceptions.
I agree with him. Universities are for education, not for running multi-million dollar sports programs. And that money was the basis for the cover-up, plain and simple. Children were abused and have suffered because of the greed of the Administration and the coaches in tandem. The politics of gender issues has nothing to do with this. Sandusky is a child molester, and his cronies helped him sweep it under the rug. It's pretty obvious.

UPDATE: Paterno has just retained the services of a defence attorney. Hmmm...I wonder why.
To quote Alice in Wonderland, "This is getting curiouser and curiouser....."

Can someone explain to me why the university fired Joepa and not McQueary? He actually witnessed a child being raped and only told his father and Joepa..........

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Can someone explain to me why the university fired Joepa and not McQueary? He actually witnessed a child being raped and only told his father and Joepa..........

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I wondered this ever since I found out that Paterno wasn't the witness. I smell foul play.

McQueary's status has changed several times recently.

At first he was still a coach.. still expected to attend Saturdays game... still staff.

Yesterday it was announced he'd be skipping the game because of threats.. but still on staff.

Today it was announced he's on administrative leave... whatever that means.

Make of that what you will.. but certainly it looks odd.