dulce story

A DULCE BASE SECURITY OFFICER SPEAKS OUT





The following is a list of questions that were directed to former Dulce Base
Security officer Thomas Edwin Castello approximately a year before his death
[or disappearance]. They are followed by his responses:



QUESTION - When exactly was the [upper human-occupied level of the] Archuleta
installation constructed?

ANSWER - I heard Dulce was started in 1937-38 by the Army engineers, enlarged
over the years, most recent work was completed 1965-66 to connect tunnels to
the Page [Arizona] Base, site of one of the older underground facilities. The
four corners base is called PERICA. Most of the Native Americans [the Indians]
living in that area are aware of that base, and could tell us about the
underground life forms that frequently are spotted near those communities,
Bigfoot, etc. (Note: The references to the Dulce base here deal mainly with the
upper levels, not the extreme lower levels which include vast natural caverns
and, some believe, very ancient tunnel systems as well. This would include the
tunnels illuminated by phosphorus pentoxide which the alien grays avoid, and
the origin of which is unknown. In fact sources have informed us that some of
the underground NORAD facilities of Colorado were constructed within already-
existing cavern systems, suggesting that Ray Palmer and Richard Shaver were
correct when as early as the mid-1940's they wrote about the government's
search for ancient underground cave and tunnel systems to be converted for
their own use. - Branton)



Q -- By what means was the [upper] installations constructed? Are you familiar
with the alleged developments made by the Rand Corporation of a highly-
efficient bore or mole machine capable of melting rock using nuclear powered
wolfram-graphite tipped 'drill-cones'?

A -- According to several senior maintenance workers, part of it was blasted by
nuclear devices in the sixties. There are sections, like the shuttle tunnels,
that were formed by an advanced tunneling machine that leaves the tunnel walls
smooth. The finished walls in those tubes resemble polished black glass.



Q -- By WHOM was the Dulce installation originally constructed?

A -- Nature started the caverns. The Draco [reptilian humanoids] used the
caverns and tunnels for centuries. Later, through RAND Corporation plans, it
was enlarged repeatedly. The original caverns included ice caves and sulfur
springs that the 'aliens' found perfect for their needs. The Dulce caverns
rival Carlsbad caverns in size. (Note: Carlsbad caverns and especially the
adjacent Lecheguilla caves are 'officially' among the largest and deepest in
the world, with several 'leads' that remain to be explored by professional
speleonauts - Branton)



Q -- What exactly are the cattle [and human] organs such as blood, anal tissue,
eyes, reproductive organs, tongues, etc. used for -- i.e. the organs obtained
via cattle and human mutilations?

A -- Read the so-called Dulce papers [for more information].



Q -- Are the various electromagnetically-controlled air or space craft -- [that
have been seen] leaving from and arriving at Mt. Archuleta -- manned by humans,
the 'alien entities', or both?

A -- Archuleta Mesa is a minor area... the craft leave [and are stored] in five
areas. One is SE of DULCE, one near Durango Co., one at Taos, N. M., and the
main fleet is stored at LOS ALAMOS [under]. (Note: I believe Thomas Castello is
referring to the 'joint-operational' fleet. From combined sources however it
appears as if Dulce is absolutely SURROUNDED ON ALL SIDES by 'alien' bases, and
that Archuleta peak -- although apparently the central NEXUS of the entire
underground network -- is nevertheless just one part of an overall complex that
some claim is nearly the size of Manhattan! One source has indicated that there
are chambers a few hundred feet below the very town of Dulce itself that are
part of level one of the facility. This close proximity may explain why it has
usually been described as the 'Dulce Base'. Apparently even with his high-
security clearance, Thomas Castello was only familiar with one part of the
overall mega-complex which underlies the area. Whatever amount of activity is
taking place there, different sources seem to indicate that the town of Dulce
nevertheless lies over a major crossroads, convergence or 'intersection' area
of alien activity even though the 'core' of alien activity has been extended to
Los Alamos. Los Alamos and the mountainous regions east and southeast of it in
and around the Santa Fe National Forest seem to be the MAJOR 'nest' of
Reptiloid/Gray forces in North America, although there is also a large number
of 'dens' scattered throughout the underground networks between Dulce and Area
51. Dulce seems to be a major 'through' point for exterran and subterran
reptilian activity, a central 'infiltration' zone for surface operatives, as
well as an operational base for abduction-implantation-mutilation agendas and
also a major convergence for sub-shuttle terminals, UFO ports, and so on. -
Branton)



Q -- Others have suggested that some of the entities below Dulce are not
of 'extraterrestrial' ORIGIN, and that they are actually descended from saurian
or reptiloid beings such as the Velociraptors or Stenonychosaurus Equallus --
a 'serpentine' race or races similar to that hinted at in the third chapter of
the book of Genesis?

A -- Yes, some 'reptoids' are native to this planet. The ruling caste
of 'aliens' ARE reptilian. The beige or white beings are called The Draco.
Other reptilian beings are green, and some are brown. They were an ancient race
on Earth, living underground. It may have been one of the Draconian beings
that 'tempted' Eve in the Garden of Eden. Reptoids rightly consider
themselves "native Terrans." Perhaps they are the ones we call the Fallen
Angels. Maybe not, either way, we are [considered] the 'squatters' on Earth.



Q -- Some have suggested that the so-called underground 'E.T.' bases and
tunnels may, for a large part, be literally thousands of years old...
constructions of an antediluvian race which attained to a considerable level of
scientific complexity, and who were destroyed by a Divinely-initiated cataclysm
which took place after they attempted to merge their science with
occult/supernatural forces. For instance some have suggested that the Bermuda
Triangle phenomena may be the result of an out-of-control Atlantean experiment
that led to a space-time disaster which produced "electromagnetic fallout" in
the Triangle area and elsewhere after they had accidentally loosed powerful
forces and energies into the world that they knew very little about. Do your
observations tend to confirm or refute such a possibility?

A -- I'm not sure about the Divine part, but these 'aliens' consider
themselves 'NATIVE TERRANS.'



A -- Where do the little gray Aliens fit in?

Q -- They work for, and are controlled by the Draco. There are other gray
skinned beings that are not in league with the Draco.



Q -- Did you ever talk to any of the 'Aliens' at the Base?

A -- Since I was the Senior Security Technician at that base, I had to
communicate with them on a daily basis. If there were any problems that
involved security or video camera's, I was the one they called. It was the
reptilian "working caste" that usually did the physical labor in the lower
levels at Dulce. Decisions i

had to
communicate with them on a daily basis. If there were any problems that
involved security or video camera's, I was the one they called. It was the
reptilian "working caste" that usually did the physical labor in the lower
levels at Dulce. Decisions involving that caste were usually made by the white
Draco. When human workers caused problems for the working caste, the reptoids
went to the white Draconian 'boss', and the Draco called me. At times, it felt
like it was a never ending problem. Several human workers resented the "no
nonsense" or "get back to work" attitude the working caste lives by. When
needed, intervention became a vital tool. The biggest problem were human
workers who foolishly wandered around near the "OFF LIMITS" areas of the "Alien
Section." I guess it's human nature to be curious and to wonder what is past
the barriers. Too often someone found a way to bypass the barriers and nosed
around. The camera's near the entrance usually stopped them before they got
themselves in serious trouble. A few times I had to formerly request the return
of a human worker.



Q -- Are there other sites tied-in to the 'shuttle network' other than those
which you mentioned, and if so, where are the entrances?

A -- WHERE!?! EVERYWHERE! THEY CRISS CROSS THE WORLD AS AN ENDLESS SUBTERRANEAN
HIGHWAY. LIKE A FREEWAY, EXCEPT THIS ONE IS UNDERGROUND... The subterranean
highway in America is like a freeway except it's underground. That highway
depends on electric motors [for trucks, cars and buses] for the paved roads,
and it is for limited travel. There is another style of transit for freight and
for passengers that is for rapid travel. That world wide network is called
the "Sub-Global System." It has "check points" at each country entry. There ARE
shuttle tubes that 'shoot' the trains at incredible speeds using a mag-lev and
vacuum method. They travel at a speed that excels the speed of sound. Part of
your question involves the location of entrances to that base. The easiest way
to answer is to say every state in the U.S.A. has them. Frequently, the
entrances are camouflaged as sand quarries, or mining operations. Other complex
portals are found on military bases. New Mexico and Arizona have the largest
amounts of entrances followed by California, Montana, Idaho, Colorado,
Pennsylvania, Kansas, Arkansas and Missouri. Of all the state's Florida and
North Dakota have the least amount of entrances. Wyoming has a road that opens
directly into the subterranean freeway. That road is no longer in use, but
could be reactivated if they decide to do so, with minimal cost. It's located
near Brooks Lake.

Q -- Are there any 'bases' in the state of Utah? (Note: Thomas mentioned
several areas surrounding Utah -- Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and
Idaho, where there are 'connections', but little on Utah which according to
some sources lies directly over one of the largest NATURAL cavern systems in
North America, one that is said to reach deep beneath the Western Rockies as
well as beneath the Bonneville basin) Have you heard anything about an alleged
underground installation within the Wasatch Mountains...?

A -- Salt Lake, Lake Powell Area, Dark Canyon, Dougway Grounds, Modena, Vernal.
All have exits there. Others too.

(Note: There have been many rumors of ancient 'tunnel' systems being
intersected during the excavations of sub-basement levels below major
industrial and mall areas in downtown Salt Lake City. Various stories
surrounding these tunnels include: explorers who have entered the tunnels and
never returned; reports of 'lizard people' down in the labyrinths; reports of
grays working with humans on electronic equipment and massive building projects
going on in huge caverns beneath the mountains to the east; reports of humans
who are part of an Asian-based 'Agharti' kingdom who maintain colonies within
the tunnels and caverns below -- and who are in conflict with the reptiloids,
grays, and a group collaborating human fascists from a network of massive
underground facilities beneath the Neu Shwabenland region of Antarctica;
reports of men in suits having been seen pacing back and forth through large
underground chambers carrying uzi machine guns; reports of seemingly bottomless
shafts; large tunnels strung with lights that are "big enough to drive a semi-
truck through"; sections of tunnel walls that looked solid yet which one could
put their hands through; rooms which emanate a strange greenish phosphorescent
glow; abductees who are taken below and encounter all types of aliens; discs
that have been seen emerging from the mountains to the east and attacking
incoming UFOs over the valley; Dungeons & Dragons fanatics who have been down
in the tunnels and tell wild stories of hundreds of miles of maze-like
passages; reports of connections to the tunnel systems via the sewer-drainage
network especially underneath the downtown "Crossroads" area; reports of alien
activity similar to that which has been described in connection to Dulce New
Mexico; and reports of a huge cavern network that reaches beyond the border of
the state in all directions -- a huge network that connects the underground
systems of Nevada with those of New Mexico. There is a famous story which is
not openly talked about -- there are two versions... both may be true. In one
version a Mormon Temple worker penetrated an underground tunnel below
the 'square' in downtown Salt Lake City and traveled for some distance through
a series of underground catacombs until running into a 'lizard' like man. The
creature attempted to attack him but the man escaped and managed to find his
way back to the surface. He began telling other people what had happened and
soon afterwards the 'government' arrived in the area and went in and closed off
many of the tunnels leading to the sub-basements of the Temple. Presumably
there was some heated debates over how much of the underground system this
denomination was allowed to control. A similar dispute apparently occurred to
the southwest where the LDS church maintained a large storage facility under
Granite Mountain in Little Cottonwood canyon, within the upper levels of a vast
network of caverns. Fascist CIA elements and the Grays came in and took control
of the larger caverns deeper within the mountain and ordered the 'vault'
workers to stay out of the 'forbidden' areas -- and stated that the "U.S.
Government" was now using them for "National Security" purposes and that it was
their "patriotic duty" to maintain the secret. The other version concerned a
custodian who entered a tunnel near the cinemas area below the Crossroads Mall
across the street and to the south from the temple square, while excavation was
being carried out in a that part of the Mall. The worker entered the tunnel and
before long encountered a 'serpent' type man, beat a hasty retreat, and told
his fellow workers what he had seen. The FBI and/or the local police soon
arrived and sealed the tunnel. Another story involved a young man who, along
with a friend, had used a chain tied to his pickup truck to rip-up a manhole
cover in the area near the 'Mall' and the 'Square'. They navigated through a
maze of sewer passages underneath and came to a shaft that descended in a
series of 5 small 'rooms' one below the other, and from the bottom room a
tunnel led south into a large chamber wherein they saw a seemingly bottomless
shaft, a large southwest tunnel strung with lights and 'large enough to drive a
semi through', and the footprints of some type of three-toed bi-pedal creature.
Other sources imply that early pioneers and settlers of the area who explored
these tunnels came in contact with and in some cases even joined with some of
the Telosian-Agharti-Melchizedek-Mayan underground colonies below the Salt Lake
Flats, the Salt Lake Valley and the Western Rockies. These subterraneans had
formerly established territorial agreements with the Reptiloids and Grays
before the aliens begun invading their subterranean lands below the
intermountain west en-masse in the early 1900's. The treaties were part of an
attempt to stave off a possible inter-species conflict, as skirmishes between
the humanoids [Teros] and reptiloids [Deros] within the cavern networks of
North America had been increasing since the 1920's, 30's and 40's. Because of a
somewhat non-exclusive collective-mind with which these humans interacted, it
was decided that one possible way to 'convert' the reptilians into becoming
beings of emotion and compassion was to allow them access to the group
consciousness. The reptiloids however, once given access, immediately began
taking advantage of the collective and used it to CONTROL the humans on a
subliminal basis. The ease with which this occurred may have been enhanced by
the fact that the Reptiloids and Grays were already operating as part of a
collective or group mind, one which was far more complex than the Ashtar or
Astarte collective itself which many of the 'Aghartians' depended on. This
suggests that the reptilian 'collective' or HIVE itself is absolutely void of
any and all care, concern or compassion for human beings. Individual reptiloids
operating distinct from the draconian collective might however be 'tamed' by
other collective-free humanoids in some cases -- as some have reportedly
been 'tamed' by the Andro-Pleiadean worlds. If the non-humans could be severed
from the 'collective' they might be deprogrammed and reprogrammed so-to-speak
and even attain individual awareness and a degree of emotionalism. In such
cases it would not be advisable to give these creatures equal standing among
humans, and absolute subservience and monitoring should be enforced even if
means were found to sever them from the collective mind network. When dealing
with the reptilian forces, unconditional surrender should be first offered, and
if this is not accepted than direct military action would be justified
especially in light of the many permanent 'abductees' whom the Greys and
Reptiloids have taken captive [those who are still alive] to their underground
systems. Most of the treaties that the humanoids had made with the
reptiloids 'down under' have since been broken... especially following the
Groom Wars of 1975 and the Dulce Wars of 1979, during which time much of the
underground U.S. base networks [which were funded by American tax dollars by
the way] were taken over by the Grays. Some sources have implied that the
aliens took advantage of the chaos especially during the Dulce wars and
commenced to invade and conquer several of the older underground colonies. This
apparently led to a rift in the 'Ashtar' collective, with many humanoids and
hybrids splitting off and joining with the Andro-Pleiadean Federation non-
interventionists, and many reptiloids and heartless humanoid agents splitting
off and joining with the interventionists of the Draco-Orion Empire. The Sirius-
B system which -- aside from Arcturus and Sol -- has been the major center
of 'Ashtar' activity, has since been shaken by this split between the two
opposing Ashtarian factions and war had reportedly raged through the Sirius
system for several years, according to some 'contactees'... an apparent
reflection of the division within the underground networks of North America
between the Pleiadean-backed Sirian humanoids and Orion-backed Sirian
reptiloids which both had maintained operations within the underground levels
before the "Dulce Wars" broke out. The Dulce wars were just the mere tip of the
proverbial iceberg when we consider that the overall events which happened at
Dulce had a chain reaction effect throughout this whole sector of not the
galaxy. Before the division occurred, the reptiloids were invited to take part
in 'peace talks' in Telos and elsewhere as an act of good faith, but the
reptiloid-grey collectivists were more interested in expanding their empire and
feeding their insatiable appetite for conquest than they were in making peace,
although they agreed to peace treaties that they never intended to keep
for 'Trojan horse' manipulation purposes. There is a remnant collaboration such
as that taking place in the underground facilities near Paradox Nevada where
collectivist humanoids and reptiloids from Sirius and Sol still maintain a
collaboration of necessity -- in order to establish a global control system,
however a large number of humanoids within the underground systems are at war
with the collectivist-interventionist Reptilian infiltrators who would
otherwise 'assimilate' these humanoids into their collective through deception,
espionage and mind control. Now several contactees like Alex Collier, Ray
Keller, Stan Johnson and others are claiming that the conflicts in Sirius
between the Andro-Pleiadean backed Ashtar forces and the Draco-Orion backed
Ashtar forces -- which were infiltrated and commandeered by Draco-Orion agents -
- have now spread to the Sol system, as both stellar superpowers have focused
on this most strategic system, intent on protecting their
respective 'interests' here from being subverted by the other side. - Branton)



Q -- Does the Mt. Archuleta "shuttle system" connect with a shuttle system
which allegedly radiates from Mt. Shasta in northern California?

A -- Yes. Mt. Shasta is a major site of Alien - Elder Race - Reptilian Race -
Human meetings. Beginning Cleveland, Grover every president in U.S. history
have visited Telos City. Truman was supposed to have visited the Lower Realms
as a High Archon on Earth. He was supposed to have met the King of the World
there, and gave him the "Keys to the U.S.A." (Note: Whether or not the
reigning 'King' of the Agharti realms at the time had benevolent or other
motives, subjecting America to an outside super-power without Congressional
consent would be considered high treason. Although
unelected/appointed 'individuals' working within the Executive-Military-
Industrial branch of 'government' might choose to do so of their own volition
without Congressional or Senatorial consent, such an act cannot apply to
the 'America' which is based on the Declaration of Independence, the U.S.
Constitution and the Bill of Rights. There are apparently two 'nations'
occupying the United States, the traditional grass-roots 'America' established
by the founding fathers and led by the 'Electorate' government, and the fascist
Bavarian-lodge-backed 'underground nation' led by the 'Corporate' government
which is contesting the original 'America' on its own soil. Some predict an
inevitable civil [?] war between the Electorate/Constitutional/Surface
government of the U.S., and the joint humanoid-reptiloid Corporate/National-
Global Socialist/Underground New World Order government, which incidentally was
bought and paid for by American taxpayers and other unsavory money-making
projects. This war will apparently provoke an armed United Nations / New World
Order invasion of the U.S.A. which, according to George Washington's
famous 'vision' at valley forge in 1777, will ultimately end with an American
victory as a result of Divine Intervention. Something like this may be
inevitable if FREEDOM is to be preserved on this world, and beyond. We should
never forget however that the NWO corporate elite and their draconian masters
intend to 'depopulate' the surface of this planet AND the underground systems
as well. According to one Navy intelligence source the 33-plus Masons [there
are allegedly several degrees above the 33rd degree which interact directly
with the draconians and are part of the interplanetary initiatory lodges]
intend to set the left-wing caverns and the right-wing caverns against each
other in order to depopulate the underground realms so that they can impose
absolute Bavarian-Draconian global control of 'both' worlds. The 33+ and higher
degrees according to this source intend to ride out the inferno in super-secret
fortified caverns while the 33rd and lower degree masons and their respective
left-wing and right-wing armies will be left to die in the surface and
subsurface wars. It may be that some of the 33+ Masons intend to ride-out the
holocaust in their Alternative-3 bases on the Moon and Mars, IF those bases are
still active. Remember, the roots of BOTH the 'right-wing' National Socialist
AND the 'left-wing' Global socialist agendas trace back to Bavaria. Isn't it
interesting that the legendary 'dragon' has TWO 'wings' -- a right wing and a
left wing -- both of which are controlled by a single 'beast'?. In essence,
when it comes right down to it the war is between the Judeo-Christian based
Constitutional Republic of America and the Luciferian-cult-based Socialist
empire of Bavaria. Both the right and left wing movements are Machiavellian
extremes created by the Bavarian Black Nobility ['Black' here being a reference
to something hidden that cannot be seen, and NOT skin color] in order to foment
global chaos. There are several claims that the collaboration with the
Reptilians began with the Luciferian cults of Bavaria, and was later brought
into America via the infiltration of the Scottish Rite and the fascist core of
the NSA-CIA. There may have nevertheless been a reptilian presence below North
America within the caverns that dates back several centuries, however a MASSIVE
reptilian infestation of these underground systems seems to have begun near the
beginning of the 20th century. 'Mt. Archuleta' might be considered
the 'capital' of the ALIEN segment of the 'secret' [Bavarian-Draconian] New
World Order government in America -- with the deep underground systems beneath
the Denver International Airport being the 'capital' of the HUMAN segment of
the secret government. - Branton). Truman received assurance to new high tech
knowledge, and victory over all enemies on Earth. He then was introduced to
Samaza and Khoach, aliens from Bootes and Tiphon [Draco], both
reptilian 'kings' or Embassadors. Truman updated the '100 Treaty' [that began
IN 1933, Roosevelt] and requested magnetic advance, space knowledge and
experiments. Khoach agreed, Samaza partially agreed. He exchanged hostages for
genetic experiments and magnetic advance, but vetoed space and beam weaponry.

Q -- Did you notice any involvement of high-level Freemasons, Rosicrucians or
Jesuits within the underground installation and/or with the aliens? (This
question is based on the assumption made by some researchers that many of the
Masonic lodges were, beginning about 1776, infiltrated by the Bavarian
Illuminati. Much of the Masonic world is ultimately controlled by the Bavarian-
lodge-backed 33+ degrees of Scottish Rite Masonry, a 'Rite' which according to
early Masonic authority Rebold can be traced back to the JESUIT college at
Clermont in Paris -- a Rite which advocates the destruction of national
sovereignties in exchange for world government, the destruction of religious
and especially Judeo-Christian movements, and the destruction of the family-
structure to be replaced by 'State' control of children, etc., as opposed to
the more traditional Protestant-Christianized YORK RITE of Masonry which the
SCOTTISH RITE has attempted to subvert since its inception into Masonry. This
question was also based on claims from a former 33rd degree Mason, James Shaw,
that the Scottish Rite headquarters in the "House of the Temple" -- which lies
at the northern apex of the pentagram-like street layout of Washington D.C. --
is filled with all kinds of indications of serpent worship in the form of
murals, carvings, statues, etc., depicting serpentine figures. Actually, from
what my sources tell me, not only are there degrees beyond the 33rd degree, but
the 33rd degree itself is made up of two cores, an inner and outer core, the
33rd degree and the 33+ degree. In the past when the 33rd degree initiation was
reached a potential initiate might have been given a Bible or a Cross and asked
to spit on it or desacrate it in some manner. If they refused to do this they
were told that they had made the "right decision" and remained in the outer
core of the 33rd degree, thinking that they had finally 'arrived'. If they did
or do commit this form of blasphemy then they are told that they have made
the "right decision", and they are sent on to the inner core of the 33+ degree,
which is the springboard to the higher levels which interact with the joint
humanoid-reptiloid Ashtarian lodges or branches of the 'Serpent Cult' on other
planets, within underground cities, and possibly even other dimensions. One
source informs me that former president George Herbert Walker Bush -- who was
at one time the HEAD of MJ-12 -- had attained to the 42nd degree, however he
may have attaned to even higher levels since that time. I would guess that the
one who holds the highest level of initiation would be the 'dragon-king' of
Draconis himself, or whatever appellation the leader or the leaders of the
Draconian Empire may go by. - Branton):

A - Yes I did, but that is a loaded question, and I won't comment further. I'm
not a Mason, or member of any other secret fraternal group. There is one
organization I am a member of [in the U.S.A.]. That group is commonly called
the "Central Unit." It is a pleasure to tell you that I AM a member of the "Sub-
Galactic League" of Costa Rica.



Q -- Is there any truth to the allegations that the CIA/'Aliens' have
established 'bases' on the moon, and also Mars?

A -- I've HEARD that too, but I haven't seen proof with my own eyes.
The 'aliens' do allegedly have bases on several moons of Jupiter and Saturn.
The CIA operates in other COUNTRIES, but I've never heard they operate on other
PLANETS (Note: Perhaps we should have referred to the CIA's superior agency,
the NSA, whose personnel reportedly pilot the "black-budget UFOs" between the
LUNA and DREAMLAND bases. - Branton).



Q -- Have you heard any hints or rumors suggesting that there may be lower
levels beneath the ULTRA-7 level of the Dulce base, and also, where these might
lead to and what they might consist of?

A -- YES. Your guess is as good as mine... Sure, there was lots of TALK but
that doesn't mean it's there. However, I will tell you I saw elevators that
were "off limits" unless you had an UMBRA or higher security clearance. At that
base, information is supplied to me at a "need to know" basis ONLY! [My
clearance was ULTRA-7]



Q -- Some insist that the U.S./Secret government has developed it's own disk-
craft based largely upon top secret antigravity experiments carried out by the
Nazi-German scientists during World War II. Have you heard anything referring
to this?

A -- When I was working in Photo-security, heard a lot of talk, never saw the
proof, but once in the Air Force I developed a roll of film that showed a craft
LIKE ADAMSKI'S, WITH A SWASTIKA ON THE SIDE. (Note: A letter from 'R.J.M.' of
Pennsylvania dated 1-31-91 stated: "...I have a lot of UFO videos. I also
have 'THE SECRET LAND' [1947]. It shows Bunger's Oasis and says they discovered
warm land at the South Pole. One German author claims the Nazi's had a photo-
finish FIGHT with Byrd. At the end of the movie, it says: 'Byrd's Intrepid
4,000 met and defeated ANTARCTICA'S TOUGHEST BATTALIONS.' I don't think they
were talking about the weather..." Another source has stated that there were
loses on BOTH sides, and the Battle for Antarctica against the Nazi's "Last
Battalion" -- which had fortified themselves in underground bases below the
mountains of Neu Schwabenland, Antarctica -- ended in a stalemate. Question:
Why would Adolph Hitler and Eva Braun commit suicide after Hitler had spent so
much energy executing over 5000 Nazi officials whom he 'suspected' were behind
his assassination attempt at the 'Wolf' bunker, especially if he had a way out
via a secret Nazi South Polar base? The March 18, 1994 issue of THE PLAIN
DEALER [Cleveland, Ohio] carried an AP story titled "DOCTORS FIND BURNT BODY
COULD NOT BE HITLER'S". Excerpts include: "...French forensic experts say the
charred corpse said to be Hitler's is not his body... experts FALSIFIED
verification reports ordered by Josef Stalin to APPEASE the Soviet dictator....
the body is actually that of an unknown German male. [The forensic experts]
spent more than two years analyzing the autopsy reports prepared by Soviet
coroners in the days following [the] surrender of the Third Reich in 1945...
the body [said to be Hitler's] had an extra tooth and only one testicle... no
German doctor who had examined Hitler before his death ever mentioned either
anomaly." This is also interesting when we consider that the well-
known 'abductee', Barney Hill, remembered the following experience under
regressive hypnosis as recorded in the paranormal encyclopedia, "MYSTERIES OF
MIND, SPACE & TIME". Barney and his wife Betty were abducted by gray-skinned
humanoids "from Zeta Reticuli". HOWEVER, one of the 'beings' on the craft was
described by Barney Hill under regressive hypnosis in the following words which
are taken from p.1379 of the encyclopedia: "...another figure has an EVIL
face... HE LOOKS LIKE A GERMAN NAZI. HE'S A NAZI... HIS EYES! HIS EYES. I'VE
NEVER SEEN EYES LIKE THAT BEFORE!" Remember that this occurred nearly 15 years
after Europe had supposedly been "de-Nazified". There seems to be an Antarctic
connection with the Dulce scenario as well as other possible 'Nazi'
connections: German 'tourists' scouring New Mexico, exploring mines and caves
and buying up land and mineral rights just before the outbreak of WWII; the
Nazi-connected CIA's involvement and their placement of several Nazi S.S.
agents -- who had been brought into the U.S. via Project Paperclip -- within
the Dulce and other underground facilities; the involvement of
secret 'Bavarian' lodges at Dulce; and the possible Antarctican-Dulce
connection to 'Alternative 003'. Another interesting connection is the fact
that the secret Nazi teams involved in the construction and operation of the
underground bases below the mountains of Neu Schwabenland and elsewhere in
Antarctica were called ULTRA teams. ULTRA is also the code-name for the DULCE
base! Also there seems to be a direct connection between the Dulce base and the
Montauk base in Long Island -- which was/is[?] reputedly jointly operated by
the Draconian Reptiloids, Orion Greys and the Bavarian Thule Society which had
backed the Nazi agenda. - Branton)



Q -- Tom, did you have access to the alien craft? Were you ever inside any of
them?

A -- Yes, I frequently saw them in the garages, there are quite a few of them.
The main fleet is stored at Los Alamos. Yes, I entered several crafts. There
were two things that stick in my mind, the odd spongy feeling of the floors,
and the unusual pinkish purple color of the lighting. The crew stated the floor
becomes ridged in flight, and the purple tint of the lighting changes to bright
blue white. The entire inside of the air craft are scaled down in size, when
compared to the average human. The halls were curved and narrow, but some how,
when inside it appears bigger than it looks. Certain areas, the outermost
sections, almost felt and looked alive. I was never taken up in one.



Q -- Can you give me more information on the reptilian race, what do they do on
the sixth level? [The area called Nightmare Hall.]

A -- The worker caste does the daily chores, mopping the latex floors, cleaning
the cages, bringing food to the hungry people and other species. It is their
job to formulate the proper mixture for the type one and type two beings that
the Draco Race has created. The working caste work at the labs as well as at
the computer banks. Basically speaking, the reptilian races are active at all
levels of the Dulce Base. There are several different 'races' of aliens that
work on the east section of level six (No doubt some collaborating 'Nordic'
factions included. - Branton). That section is commonly called "the alien
section." The Draco are the undisputed masters of the 5-6-7 levels. The humans
are second in command of those levels. I had to ARGUE with one large
Draconian 'boss' frequently. His name is difficult to verbalize, Khaarshfashst
[pronounced throaty kkhhah-sshh-fahsh-sst]. I usually called him 'Karsh,' and
he hated it. The Draconian leaders are very formal when talking to the human
race. These ancient beings consider us a lower race. Karsh called me "Leader
Castello," but it was used in a sarcastical way. However the worker caste is
friendly enough, as long as you allow them to speak first. They will answer if
you address them. They are very cautious beings, and consider most humans to be
hostile. They always seem surprised when they found many of the humans were
open and trustworthy. There is no fraternizing with the aliens off hours. It is
forbidden to speak to any alien race [in the halls or an elevator] without a
clear business oriented reason. Humans can talk to humans, and aliens can speak
to aliens, but that is as far as it goes. At the work site, however, it's
different. There is "free speech" in the labs. The camaraderie found in the
labs also reaches the computer banks section. In those areas, everybody talks
to anybody. However, everything changes the minute you cross the threshold of
the hall. Instantly, all conversations become strictly formal. Hard as it was,
several times I had to arrest some one, simply because they spoke to an alien.
It's a strange place.



Q -- Exactly what first made you aware that something was wrong at Dulce? Seems
to me that a place as obviously horrible as this one wouldn't need an Einstein
to know that this is a CRIME site! What took you so long? Are you the guy who
blew the whistle?

A -- There are several things you should know about. I took an oath, under the
penalty of death, that no matter what I saw or heard I would never divulge the
information. Also, I signed a waiver that states I would willingly give up my
life if I was found guilty of 'treason'. At the Dulce Base treason is "ANYTHING
that mentions the details of daily operations at this facility, when outside
the confinement of the this base." When I first arrived, a "need to know"
policy was in effect. The story the 'honchos' told us was that "this is a Tri-
Biotransfer Facility with Advanced Technology, doing advanced adventurous
methodology for medical and mental gains." Which is a fancy way of saying they
do really risky things with human life just to see what would happen. If a
medical cure happens, it will be heralded on the surface of the earth as a
marvelous new cure, saying it was found after years of research at some well
known medical lab. The real story of the cure is never explained. After all,
the Dulce Base IS A SECRET FACILITY! These people are very good at what they
do. They do not tell the truth about the unfortunate people that end up
in "Nightmare Hall." I worked with aliens. With that in mind, you should get
the idea of the secrecy and the security at that place. Yes, I know this was
not the usual hospital type job site, but in the beginning I 'bought' the whole
package. I was reminded daily by intercom, in the elevators, that "this site
does high risk advanced medical and drug testing to cure insanity, please,
never speak to the inmates, it can destroy years of work." I'm sensible, when
doctors say don't speak to them, who was I to destroy the delicate situation?
But one man some how caught my eye. He repeatedly stated that he was George S---
- and that he had been kidnapped and he was sure someone was searching for him.
I don't know why he sticks in my mind, I found I was remembering his face,
thinking he sure didn't look or sound insane, but many inmates said that. The
next weekend I convinced a friend of mine, a cop, to run a check on the guy,
saying I had a run in with him and was curious. I didn't mention the base at
all. It was a sickening feeling when the computer confirmed that George S. was
missing. What's worse, the cops thought he was just another guy that got tired
of the daily grind and split. That was the beginning. Am I the one that blew
the whistle? No. The next Monday, I searched for George, but he was gone. There
were no records that explained what happened to him. It was another security
officer that came to me saying he and some lab workers wanted an off duty
meeting at one of the tunnels, [off the record]. Curiosity took over and I said
OK. That night, about nine men showed up. They said they knew they were risking
me turning them in but they wanted to show me some things they thought I should
see. One by one they showed records that proved many inmates were missing
people. There were newspaper clippings, and even photos that they had some how
smuggled into the base. They hoped to smuggle them back out, without me turning
them in to the honchos. I could see the fear in their faces as they spoke. One
man stated he would rather lose his life by trying, than to lose his soul by
not doing anything at all. It was that remark that turned the tide. I told them
about George and the things I found out about him. After a few hours we pledged
to attempt to expose the Dulce Base.



Q -- The name Nightmare Hall is descriptive, but surely there was a 'regular'
name, what was it called in the manuals?

A -- In the manuals it was called "The Vivarium". It describes Dulce Base as
a "secured facility for tending bio-forms of all types." In their report it is
retold as "a private subterranean bio-terminal park, with accommodations for
animals, fish, fowl, reptile, and mankind." After SEEING this 'park' the name
Nightmare Hall is far more accurate than the manual. The 'accommodations' for
the inmates at Nightmare Hall fall short of the pretty picture the manual
describes.



Q -- You mentioned one reptilian leader, Khaarshfashst, do you know any thing
about him, like where is he from? Is he from Earth or some other planet?

A -- His name means "keeper of the laws". They recieve their name after they
reach the "age of awareness". They do not recognize time as an important factor
in "being aware" the way humans do. Upon their "age of awareness" they are
cognitive of the station or position they are destined to fulfill. At that time
they chose or allow someone to choose their name. Their name will include the
position they hold and several personally chosen letters. Each letter has a
personal meaning, known only to the alien and the one that chose their name.
Since Karsh's name means keeper of the laws his name includes kaash [memory or
keep, base word for 'Akashic' record] and fashst [law, base word fast or bind].
Reptilians choose to be not only private but secretive of the location of their
natal place. To them birth, or emergence of life, is considered as one of the
sacred rites of life. They consider Earth or Terra their "home planet", but
several reptoids discuss several star maps. Most of those stars were within the
Milky Way. Within those star maps lies the stars and planets of the Planets of
the Allegiance. Earth being one of the planets in their trade routes. If any
human asked clear questions about the Allegiance, the Aliens referred the
questions to the Draco. The Draco in turn, referred the questions to their
supervisor [me]. I did not have that information about the stars, because
information was supplied on a "need to know" basis. I didn't 'need' that
information.

Q -- Did any of the working caste join in the revolt? Could you give me some
names?

A -- A few of the reptilian janitorial crew let us know that THEY knew WE were
attempting to sabotage the work going on in the sixth and seventh levels. One
of them, with the name Schhaal, secretly formed a small group of reptoids with
the same mind set as my group (Take note of the similarity between this
scenario and the NBC mini-series "V", which is now available on video cassette
after years of non-availability. I have it on good authority that the original
author of the "V" idea was an investigator who knew Thomas Castello on a
personal basis. He had connections in Hollywood and had written a motion
picture script, which was in turn seen and 'borrowed' without permission by an
NBC employee and re-written as a mini-series. The show was based on

reptilian humanoids from Sirius-B who had come to earth under the guise of
benevolent human-like space brothers to bring a new order of universal peace.
In reality they had a secret agenda to rape planet earth of her resources and
steal her people for biological sustenance. This agenda was being contested by
a human resistance who refused to fall for the reptilian's facade, and these
resistors were in turn working with a secret fifth-column of reptilians who did
not agree with their leaders' agenda for planet earth. Could this mini-series
have had an actual basis in a bizarre reality? - Branton). Sshhaal took upon
himself the danger of informing me. He was as open as is possible in a unique
situation. On the day I found out about it, I was inspecting a camera near an
exit tunnel. He approached, stooped down (the tall reptiloids average about 7-8
ft. in height according to most witnesses - Branton), seemingly scraping some
non-existent dirt, and he quietly said, "A few of us agreed that you are
singular in your interest in missing-human reports. If true, walk away. I'll
reach you. If it's untrue, destroy my life now!" My heart almost leaped out of
my chest, but I silently walked toward one of the wide halls. For the rest of
my life I'll remember those words! It was the first time I KNEW reptilians
could have individual thoughts and opinions! Basically, they formed a uniform
front with a small variety of interests. Or at least, that was what we had
thought. It was a couple days before I heard from him again. As he walked
beside me in the sixth level's infamous hall, I heard him say "Enter the exit
tunnel on the sixth level, north, after your shift." The next few hours were
long and filled with thoughts of betrayal, or worse, but I shouldn't have
worried. I contacted one of the original nine [resistance] men, and let him
know, just in case. Gordon wanted to go with me, but I convinced him to wait a
few feet from the exit and pretend he was having trouble with his cart
[electric, like a golf cart]. When I got there, there were three of them.
SSHHAAL formerly introduced FAHSSHHAA and HUAMSSHHAA [name base word is SSHHAA
or assist]. With that, I quickly grabbed Gordon from the hall and the five of
us talked and walked in the dark tunnels about three hours. After that day, the
joined resistance group got bigger and bolder. Ultimately, it ended when a
military assault was initiated via the exit tunnels and they executed anybody
on their list, human or reptilian. We fought back, but none of the working
caste had weapons, nor did the human lab workers. Only the security force and a
few computer workers had flash guns. It was a massacre. Every one was screaming
and running for cover. The halls and tunnels were filled as full as possible.
We believe it was the Delta Force [because of the uniforms and the method they
used] that chose to hit at shift change, an effort that killed as many as named
on their list (NOTE: If Thomas Castello is correct in his assertion, then based
on his overall revelations, as well as the revelations of others such as Robert
Lazar, Phil Schneider, etc., the Dulce Wars were the result of at least five
overlapping factors or scenarios which converged at more or less the same time
or played into each other. This may have also involved a conflict of interest
within MJ12 itself, and apparently involved different security forces including
the Delta Force, Black Berets, Air Force Blue Berets, Secret Service, FBI
Division Five, CIA stormtroopers and Dulce Base security. The various factors
which seem to have played into the Dulce wars would include animosity towards
the Greys for their slaughter of several scientists and security personnel in
the Groom Wars below Area 51 three years earlier as described by former MJ12
Special Studies Group agent Michael Wolf; accidental [?] encounters between
aliens and human construction workers and security forces near Dulce as
described by Phil Schneider; an attack on the Dulce base 'resistance' that was
apparently ordered by die-hard collaborators in deep-level intelligence as
described by Thomas Castello; an attempt to rescue several of our best
scientists who had been captured by the aliens after they had discovered
the "Grand Deception" involving a violation of the established treaties, that
is the permanent abduction of thousands of humans to the Dulce and other bases
for God only knows what purposes, as described by John Lear -- could it be that
MJ12 / PI40 was unaware of these abductees, yet their superior agency the BLACK
MONK / MAJIC agency was aware and had agreed to an actual exchange of human
life for technology?; and another factor would involve a dispute over whether
human security personnel could carry flash guns as opposed to machine guns. All
of these were apparently contributing factors to the 'altercations' which raged
throughout the Dulce Base beginning in 1979. - Branton). We, to this day, do
not know who BETRAYED us. Gordon Ennery ran beside me as we ran into the third
level exit tunnels, and he died when several bullets slammed into his back. I
vaporized that assassin and kept running. And I'm still running. Gordon will be
remembered.



Q -- Tell me more about the flash gun. Is it difficult to operate, or is it
like the weapon on Star Trek, that can stun or kill on different modes?

A -- It is an advanced beam weapon that can operate on three different phases.
Phase one, like Star Trek, can stun and maybe kill, if the person has a weak
heart. On phase two, it can levitate ANYTHING no matter what it weighs. Phase
three is the SERIOUS BUSINESS mode. It can be used to paralyze anything that
lives, animal, human, alien and plant. On the higher position on the same mode,
it can create a TEMPORARY DEATH. I assure you, any doctor would certify that
person is dead, but their life essence lingers in some strange limbo, some kind
of terrible state of non-death. In one to five hours the person will revive,
slowly; first the bodily functions will begin, and in a few minutes,
consciousness followed with full awareness. In that mode the alien scientists
re-program the human brain and plant false information. When the person awakes,
he 'recalls' the false information as information he gained through life
experience. There is no way for a person to learn the truth. The human
mind 'remembers' and believes completely the false data. If you attempt to
inform them, they would laugh or get angry. They NEVER believe the truth. Their
mind always forgets the experience of re-programming. You asked if the flash
gun is difficult to operate. A two year old child could use it with one hand.
It resembles a flash light, with black glass conical inverted lens. On the side
are three recessed knobs in three curved grooves. Each knob is sized
differently. The closer the knob to the hand the less the strength. It's that
simple. Each knob has three strengths also, with automatic stops at each
position. The strongest position will vaporize any thing that lives. That mode
is so powerful it will leave NO TRACE of what it vaporized.



Q -- Is the weapon called a Flash Gun or is there a different name in the
manuals?

A -- Everybody calls them Flash Guns, or more commonly "The Flash" or "my
Flash" when talking about it. In the manual it is first introduced as the
ARMORLUX Weapon. After that, it is explained as the Flash Gun.



Q -- What type of security is found at the Dulce Base? What else is used
against espionage or unauthorized entry?

A -- I'll mention a few, but it would be nearly impossible to cover it all. The
weapon, besides the Flash Gun, mostly used is a form of sonic. Built in with
each light fixture [and most camcorders] is a device that could render a man
unconscious in seconds with nothing more than a silent tone. At Dulce there
also are still and VCR cameras, eye print, hand print stations, weight
monitors, lasers, ELF and EM equipment, heat sensors and motion detectors and
quite a few other methods. There is no way you could get very far into the
base. If you made it to the second level, you would be spotted within fifteen
feet. More than likely, you would become an inmate and never see the light of
the surface world again. If you were 'lucky', you would be re-programmed and
become one of the countless spies for the Ruling Caste.

A DULCE BASE SECURITY OFFICER SPEAKS OUT
Q -- According to certain reports, the Dulce Base is host to [other] aliens
that live in level five. Is that true? Can the humans freely roam or meet one-
to-one in the halls or is some type of protocol in effect?

A -- There is protocol from the first time you enter the base and it MUST be
followed every time you SEE an alien there. From the working caste, to the
visiting aliens, to the Ruling Caste, there is a never ending check list of
rules, law, and strict protocol. There is never a chance to roam on the fifth
level. The alien housing area is off limits to any human. The Hub is surrounded
by security, arsenal, military and CIA\FBI sections. The area past the security
is one of the most secured areas because it houses so many classified files.
The entire east side of the fifth level is off limits except for security
personnel holding ULTRA-7 [security clearance] or higher. The garage on the
west side of the fifth level requires ULTRA-4 clearance.



Q -- Is there proof available that could confirm the allegations of the
underground base, or are we just supposed to believe you?

A -- Many people have asked that one. No, I don't expect people to believe with
blind faith, there is tangible proof that has been seen, felt or inspected by
quite a few folks. I'm in no position to go on a lecture circuit to explain to
every person on a one-to-one basis. I am trying to stay alive. All I can do is
state again, that Dulce is a SECRET FACILITY. They work HARD to make sure
nobody can find the place. If everyone could easily find it, it wouldn't be a
SECRET facility. I've explained the extreme security methods they use. There is
other proof available. There are five sets of copies in five different boxes in
five different locations that hold complete proof of every thing I have tried
to explain. Here is a list of contents of each box (delivered into the safe-
keeping of five individuals known only to Thomas Castello and to the individual
recipients - Branton): (A) 27 sheets of 8 x 10 photographs of Aliens,
creatures, cages and vats. (B) One silent candid video tape, begins on the
computer banks, shows the vats, multi shots of Nightmare Hall, two shots of
Greys, one shot of the Terminal showing sign saying 'To Los Alamos' and about
thirty seconds of the Shuttle train arriving. (C) 25 pages of diagrams,
chemical formulas and schematics of alien equipment. (D) A copy of the new
treaty complete with signatures. (E) 2 pages of original Alien documents signed
by Ronald Reagan [as governor of California], each page includes Reagan's
signature. The ORIGINAL set mentioned above is sealed in one piece oxygen free
heavy plastic box. That set includes: (A) 27 sheets of 8 x 10 WITH original
negatives (B) The video tape, AND the original micro film, from which the video
tape was copied. (C) The 25 original pages of diagrams [with notations],
formulas, alien equipment schematics plus the schematics for the Flash Gun and
MY Flash Gun. (D) The treaty with Reagan's signature plus seven other political
signatures and four Alien signatures. The working Flash Gun in that box is an
extremely dangerous weapon. In the wrong hands, there is no limit on the danger
it could inflict. That proof must be protected. But when placed in the hands of
certain government agencies, it would not be treated as proof for an Alien
visitation. That government branch KNOWS THE TRUTH and they publicly lie. Think
about it like this, do you KNOW, for certain proof, that George Washington
lived? Or do you believe what other people SAID about him? There is no one
alive that saw with their own eyes what is claimed about him. You judge all you
know about him by what other people SAID. Columbus SAID there is a new land,
and it was found. I am SAYING there are aliens in several underground bases in
this country and terrible things happen in those places. If I die, before it is
proven, search for proof (after all, the Dulce Base and the other bases aren't
going anywhere. Unlike UFO's themselves they are not "here today and gone
tomorrow". If they are there, then there are bound to be some indications of
the fact. - Branton). Demand that the government admit it. If enough people
demand it, they WILL find a way to explain the base, or at least explain why
they must keep it secret. There are MANY people that work at the Dulce Base
that know me. I am challenging those co-workers to speak up, at least
anonymously. Send a letter, or a telegram [or fax] to confirm what I have
explained. In the name of the brave men, woman, children and aliens that died
TRYING to let the public know what is going on at the Dulce Facility, EXPOSE
that horrid place before thousands more innocent people are tortured and die
unspeakable deaths.



Q -- What about the elevators, do they drop from the surface to the seventh
level in a couple of seconds? Do you know anything about them? Are they
electrically lifted? Every where on the surface world there are elevators made
by Otis Elevator Company. Does that company make the elevators at Dulce?

A -- I failed to notice what brand was available in the elevators at the base.
I could tell you that there is no elevator anywhere at Dulce that drops from
the surface to the seventh level. The security blue prints show the levels
are 'stepped' down. Each level drops one floor only. Not even the Hub has an
express elevator. After the third level, not only would you change elevators,
you are weighed and color coded, before you re-enter the car. All the elevators
are magnetically controlled, even lights in elevators, as well as all lights on
all levels are magnetically induced. The light bulbs are not the type bought on
the surface, but a totally different type of light system. The illumination
found there is a closer match to natural sunlight than any artificial light on
the surface world. The shape of the elevators is unique. If you have ever seen
a Tupperware sugar bowl, you could see the shape copied in the elevator. Sort
of like an open ended oval with another half oval on each side. The elevator
shaft matches the shape perfectly. The magnetic controls are in the half oval
shape. If you could stand in or close to the half ovals, you would feel the
slight pull of the power of those magnets. The motion is smooth and silent,
there is a nearly unnoticed surge when the motion starts or stops. There are no
cables needed, because the lift is magnetic, not electric. Since there are no
cables in the elevator cars there is no chance of them falling.



Q -- I understand that certain groups of cleared individuals in the government
are collaborating with alien groups. Is it known how many groups and of what
type they are working with?

A -- I don't know how many groups or what type they are working with.



Q -- A mysterious security man calling himself agent "Yellow Fruit" says he
worked at Groom Lake [Area 51]. The Security Officer states that he's been in
contact with benevolent aliens, at the Groom Lake facility -- are you aware of
such a group?

A -- Yellow Fruit is one of the slang names for Yellow Jack [or Yellow Flag]
that shows quarantine and caution in the labs. There are so many different
slang names at Dulce labs that meant quarantine that the workers published a
booklet to show the meanings. At Dulce, Yellowfruit are the lab workers [so
called from the yellow light outside the decontamination chambers]. Banana is
the older workers, lemon is the new guys and so on.



Q -- Is there an alien installation under Groom Lake or Papoose Lake at the
Nevada Test Site, and are they conducting biological research at these sites?

A -- Most of the stuff at the Groom facility deals with defense, but there is a
large storage area in the tunnels that holds thousands of alien craft parts.
From what I have heard, the medical tests at the Nevada Test Site are conducted
by and for the Navy.

Q -- According to my sources, the Aerospace companies have a secret underground
installation in the Tehachapi Mountains, not far from Rosamond near Edwards
AFB. Insiders refer to the Tahachapi Installment as the Ant Hill. They are
experimenting with advanced technology such as antigravity disks. Some have
seen basketball sized floating orbs patrol the facility, do you have any
further information on this?

A -- The California mountains [Tehachapi, Chocolate, Shasta, etc.] all have
alien security methods and equipment. The basketball size orbs are used for
unmanned patrol. They are silent, but when photographing living beings there is
a humming sound. The glow that emits light is magnetic aura. This [light] is in
the visible spectrum [3900 angstroms]. You can see the light, but the light
does not reflect off any thing.



Q -- Is there anything you can tell me about the moon - alien installations?
Atmosphere? U.S. bases?

A -- There is not much I can tell you there. I wasn't in the Lunar Program. I
heard there was a LOT of equipment sent to the moon between 1959-1964
under "Project Whiteout".



Q -- How do the aliens use magnetism? Do they use it as an energy source? Is
there more we need to know about magnetism?

A -- The aliens use magnetics for EVERY THING! They use magnetics as the basic
structure for their energy source. The more you learn about magnetics, the
better. The Human Race calls them 'magnets', the Aliens call them 'lodestar'.
They have been harvesting lodestars [lodestones] for centuries. Not only that,
they want ALL the magnetic power on Earth. They intend to continue harvesting
that power, now and in the future. As long as we were only using magnetic power
as an oddity, there was no problem. But in recent times, the human race has
begun using magnetic power and finding more ways to utilize that commodity.
There was a treaty made. In the original treaty, the human race (or those who
supposedly 'represented' the human race, if you could call it that - Branton)
didn't mind at all, 'we' considered magnets as hardly more than useless. As
people searched for another source for power, we turned to magnetics. The
aliens wanted a new treaty. What could we offer? They chose land, underground
mining rights, animals and humans for new experiments. The general public NEVER
KNEW about the treaty. The governmental [Bavarian cultist] heads of the world
chose another treaty in 1933. This time 'we' got high-tech knowledge in
exchange. So now, the more we use magnetics, the more they claim humans, and
the lands of the U.S.A. We were 'sold' in exchange for magnets. If you doubt
it, look around -- there are token companies that 'really' utilize magnetic
power, but are depending on electric based or ceramic magnets, NOT lodestar
[magnetic oxide of iron] based magnets.



Q -- What do the aliens do with the cow blood and other parts from mutilated
animals? Do they need these fluids for research or survival?

A -- The aliens use the blood and body parts for formula to keep them alive
[their food] and for use in the growing vats, and for the artificial wombs.
Plasma and amniotic fluid are the two most vital ingredients for their lives.
Also, the 'sap' of some plants can keep them alive for months. Most of the
plants are parasitic in nature, but red grapes and okra plants can also be
added to the formula to keep them alive, if they have no 'regular' formula.



Q -- Female abductees report being inseminated by aliens. Are they trying to
hybridize our species?

A -- Yes, they are breeding slave-warriors for the upcoming war with the alien
races (the Nordic races? - Branton). The serpentine races are in orbit around
Earth, Venus and Mars.



Q -- Abductees have reported that the aliens can pass their bodies and that of
the abductee through window glass. Is this a feat of magic achieved by advanced
technology or is it a psychic power?

A -- The aliens have mastered atomic matter. They can go through walls like we
go through water! It is not magic, just physics. We can learn to do the same
thing. It has to do with controlling atoms at will.



Q -- Are you in communication with benevolent aliens or do you have contacts
that are? If you are, can you tell us how we can communicate with their teams?

A -- I am not at liberty to discuss communications with any friendly alien life
forms. I can tell you there is a friendly factor active in Costa Rica, I am in
direct communication with that factor. I am an active member of the Sub-
Galactic League of Costa Rica. This organization, using a small satellite dish,
a television set and ham radio equipment reached this factor. I might suggest
that by using similar equipment and a low band frequency, you may reach the
same factor.



Q -- Do you stay in the U.S.A., or do you live abroad? Do you work now? I know
you have been on the run for several years.

A -- Yeah, quite a few years. I visit the U.S., but it's really dangerous when
I do. I've lived in several countries. I spent a few years in Mexico, working
as a mercenary soldier. It's rough work, frequently living in the bush, eating
what ever I can find. I spent time in South America, fighting the drug cartel
[it's not the citizens, it's the secret government, top officials AND American
alphabet boys -- CIA, FBI, etc.]. I settled in Costa Rica, 'bought' a small
house in Limon. Actually it is a shanty that some one abandoned. I paid the
equivalency of $11 to one of the local constables for the right to call
it 'mine'. My name changes when I think some one is asking questions. I've
worked in one of the underground bases near the Panama border. It's in the
mountains, not very far from a passive but 'active' volcano. It is not as fancy
as Dulce, but the people are wonderful.



Q -- What is the best city in Costa Rica for an American to visit and maybe
move to live?

A -- None of them are worth anything [by comparison], but I like Limon. There
is a real culture shock when you get past the tourist sections. Inside the
urban areas, it's not so bad, but away from the beaten path the picture
changes. There are no improvements in the shanties, no sewers, plumbing, or
paved roads. But if you stay in the cities, and you don't mind the big
difference in the cultures, the countries have a lot to offer. Nice weather,
great beaches and beautiful trees with fruit growing everywhere.



Q -- Are there any other security level names [other than 'secret' - 'top
secret' - 'ultra']?

A -- There are many other security clearances, here are a few, UMBRA, STELLAR,
G2-7Z, TRIAD, UMT [Universal Military Training] and UMS [Universal Military
Service], ASTRAL and SUB-ASTRAL. UMBRA is higher than ULTRA (Note: It may be
conceivable that some of the higher security clearances are used for the joint
human-alien interstellar projects. For instance Whitley Streiber described an
abduction to another planetary sphere where he encountered ancient ruins,
aliens and human personnel dressed in military kackies and carrying camcorders,
automatic weapons, etc. Obviously such personnel would have to possess an
extremely high security classification, such as "Universal Military Service"
for instance? The joint alien-illuminati "alternative-3" projects have
reportedly taken part in joint offensive operations against the peaceful
residents of other worlds, this according to a couple who 'defected' from the
alternative-3 movement after an agent from the 'Federation' warned them about
such atrocities. - Branton)



Q -- Ever see a badge with 'MAJI'?

A -- No.



Q -- Since you have lived in Spanish speaking countries, it's obvious that you
are bilingual. What other languages do you speak?

A -- Other than English, the only other languages I speak are Spanish and
Eusshu, the common language [alien] spoken at Dulce. I speak Spanish fluently,
and enough Eusshu to keep my self out of trouble. Shortly after I first
transferred to Dulce, I took a crash course in Eusshu. Any one that plans to
spend more than one week working at that base, they are wise to learn the
basics. Other wise, you are required to wait for an escort to get around. All
the signs at that base are written in the universally recognized symbolic
language. Eusshu is logical and easy to learn.



Q -- What are the eating habits of the aliens? Are they carnivores?

A -- That depends weather they are one of the gray worker caste, one of the
reptilian worker caste, or one of the higher developed Draconian Leaders. Also,
the created beings, replicants, type two being, or one of the really strange
[genetic] mixtures. I'll try to cover a little of each. The formula includes
amniotic water, plasma and several other body parts [raw, usually bovine]. This
nearly clear mixture with a texture of pureed peaches, and almost in that
color. The grays make the attempt not to 'eat' around the humans, because the
odor of it is VERY unpleasant to ANY human. They can spend days or even weeks
between feedings. The working caste of the reptilians eat meat, insects and a
large variety of plants including vegetables and fruit. They prefer their meat
raw and very fresh, but have learned to enjoy some cooked meat like rare beef
steak (Note: According to many abductees, the reptiloids are not above eating
human flesh. It has been said that they prefer flesh that is young enough to be
free of toxins, yet old enough to be imbued with a lifetime of
accumulated "emotional energy residue" which is resident within the human body.
Some abductees claim that certain reptilian factions have such complex bio-
technologies that they are able to remove a human's soul-energy-matrix and
place it in a containment 'box', and use the controlled 'body' for whatever
purpose they choose. Some abductees also insist that in some cases the
reptiloids can create a cloned duplicate of a person in a short amount of time
through time warping and replace the soul-energy-matrix of a person back into
the new cloned body if their disappearance from society would otherwise create
too many problems. This way they can ingest the emotional-residue-imbued
original body without the abductee realizing [in most cases] that their soul-
memory-matrix has been transferred to a cloned body, because they would have
experienced a total 'soul-matrix' energy transfer and a suppression of any
memories relating to the transfer process. The cloned bodies do not possess the
integrated emotional residue that the vampirialistic reptiloids apparently
crave and find intoxicating in a similar manner as a human on earth who is
addicted to hard drugs. - Branton). Unlike the Greys, they eat frequently and
usually carry or send for food on their breaks. The Ruling Caste is SECRETIVE
about their foods. They have created several dietary myths that they carefully
embellish when the chance arrives. One of their favorite legends involves one
of their ancestors' ability to eat an entire flock of geese in one setting.
They RARELY eat in sight of any other species. They carefully choose their
food, then carry their meal to their quarters. It was only when dignitaries
arrive at the base did they join their meals. They enjoy the same foods we do,
and they have been seen secretly munching on a freshly found snail. The "human
looking" replicants eat some cooked vegetables. They rely on vitamins and
liquid protein for sustenance. If they have to eat on the surface world, they
can eat what ever they are served, but as soon as possible they regurgitate.
Their digestive systems frequently fail to process the food properly. The
engineered beings have a special diet, created for their dietary needs. The
mixture includes several organ foods blended with plasmatic fluids, amniotic
liquids and parasitiplasm materials. These unique 'animals' also enjoy
occasional green plants, usually grasses or lettuce. The creatures that are
designed to become warriors, eat protein filled liquids.



Q -- In the Dulce Papers, copper seems to be high on the importance list. In
what methods is copper used?

A -- One of the main uses of copper at Dulce is containment of the magnetic
flow, magnets are used every where at that base. The infamous vats' interiors
are lined with copper, and the exterior walls are clad with stainless steel.
The mechanical arm that stirs the liquid is made of a copper alloy. Other uses
include dietary needs in a few of the transbiotic beings. There are several
specially made cells or rooms built first with lead, then magnetic steel then
clad in copper. It is in those cells on the Fourth Level that contain living
aural essence. This essence is what you would call [a captured
disembodied] 'soul' or..."astral body". (Note: This may tie-in with the reports
of certain remote-viewing "astral spies" who claim to have "projected" into
underground facilities like Dulce New Mexico or Pine Gap Australia, only to
have close encounters with these astral containment fields, or have been
captured by the same and released after being 'interrogated' via super-
sensitive electronic equipment. In one case an Australian remote-viewer was
probing the Pine Gap facility where he also "saw" three other astral spys.

The magnetic or astral body of one of these people had been captured by such a
containment field, which really disturbed him. This man, Robert, also saw Greys
and Reptiloids operating in the deeper levels of Pine Gap and also Nordic-type
humans who were apparently captives and who did NOT seem to be very happy about
being there. - Branton)



Q -- Growing multi-species beings, blood formulas and human parts in vats
sounds like a bad plot to a science fiction movie. The doctors and scientists
of the world claim you can't mix the species (Note: Naturally this may be true,
however through genetic bioengineering and gene-splicing this has apparently
been accomplished to some extent - Branton). The concepts mentioned in the
Dulce Papers sounds far fetched. Could you provide information that the
average "surface world" reader could understand about similar things?

A -- The doctors and scientists on the SURFACE world may say that, but
underground, away from the prying eyes of ethics boards, they DO GROW TRANS-
GENUS BEINGS! There is a lot of written material available at libraries. One of
the best sources is an easy to read book published back in 1969, by Prentice-
Hall International, with the title of "THE SECOND GENESIS, THE COMING CONTROL
OF LIFE" by Albert Rosenfelt. In this book, they discuss "animals that may be
especially bred to supply genetically reliable organs for people." --
and "...the use of fetal or embryonic material from which adult sized organs
and tissues may be grown..." Also he discusses the fact that embryonic tissue
has no immunological activity, therefore it cannot provoke the defense
mechanism in the recipient. IT WILL JOIN THE BODY NOT AS A FOREIGN ANTIGEN, BUT
AS A NATURAL PROTEIN. He further discusses solitary generation, commonly called
virgin birth, but also known as parthenogenesis. With one "virgin birth" in 1.6
million births average ON THE SURFACE of the world, in Dulce that rate is
reversed. Occasionally, a "normally born" human infant is born in the hospital
wards on the Seventh Level. Parthenogenesis is the method used to grow type two
beings. The now common transsexual surgery on the surface world, began at the
Dulce Base. Men became women on a whim in the Seventh Level labs, and with the
Fourth Level technology, the brain washing [resulted in] the "eager desire to
become a woman" and that poor man [whether a willing or unwilling participant]
FIRMLY BELIEVES he always wanted to be a woman. No one could convince him to
believe the truth. ALL THINGS ARE TWISTED AT DULCE. A quote by Dr. Ralph W.
Gerard [in THE SECOND GENESIS] put in his now classic statement: "There can be
no twisted thought without a twisted molecule". MOST have originated at Dulce.



Q -- How are the human workers stopped from telling everything about Dulce?

A -- Implants, fear threats to harm the families, EM control, also
reprogramming with ELF [Extremely Low Frequency] and drugs are the most common
methods to 'encourage' the workers not to divulge the location or daily
routine.



Q -- A construction worker at "The Ant Hill" [The Northrup's Tehachapi Base]
reports seeing 10-12 foot tall human looking beings in lab coats. Who are these
guys, are they from the hollow earth? (Note: The Hollow Earth theory is one
that was postulated by various well known individuals, including Marshall B.
Gardner, Raymond Bernard, William Halley - discoverer of Halley's comet, Edgar
Allen Poe, Edgar Rice Burroughs, John Cleves Symmes, John Uri Lloyd and others.
Basically the thesis involves what one might refer to as the Geoconcavitic
sphere theory, or that as the earth was forming in its molton state the
planetary spin created a hollow or concavity within the center similar to the
hollow created by the centrifugal force of a horizontal washing machine
following a spin cycle. The theory, which has been postulated in para-
geological theories, in adventure novels, and in some cases even in alleged
visits to the "inner world", states that the 'shell' of the earth averages
between 800-1000 miles thick, with an interior surface consisting of oceans and
land illuminated perpetually by a sphere of electromagnetic and/or nuclear
energy suspended at the very center of the "empty space". There are reputedly
funnel-like openings near the polar regions, perpetually concealed by mist
created by the collision of cold air from the outside and hot air from the
inside, which permits ingress and egress to and from this inner 'world'. The
theory states that the inner surface has its own gravity, yet slightly less
than the outer surface gravity. One side-theory is that between the inner and
outer surface where gravity is nullified there exists a layer of weightless or
low-weight caverns in an eternal state of chaos where minerals, liquids, gases
and chemicals continually slam together from the earth's rotation, causing
intense magmatic activity, a virtual inferno, or "bottomless pit". Some have
theorized that -- based on the Apocryphal book of Esdras, chapter 13, which
contains non-cannonized Jewish legends -- that the 10 'lost' tribes of Israel
disappeared beyond the river Sambatyon and to a place in the far north where
humans never lived before called 'Arzareth'. In the last days, a path would be
made through the ice and waters of the north and the lost tribes would return.
There are three tribes accounted for as of this writing, or rather two tribes
and two half tribes: Judah, Benjamin, half of the Levite tribe, and apparently
half of the tribe of Dan if we are to believe the Ethiopian 'Jews' who claim to
be descended from Dan. The '13th' tribe would be accounted for by the fact that
the two Josephite tribes of Ephraim and Manassah are considered distinctive
tribes in and of themselves. As for the 'giants', some believe that these have
a direct connection to the 10-12 foot tall 'Anakim' people mentioned in the Old
Testament who were driven out of Palestine, following which the Torah gives no
further details as to their fate, although there have been many reports of
such 'giants' being encountered in large cavern systems below Alaska, Oregon,
California, Utah, Texas and Mexico, and also reports of ancient gravesites in
the western U.S. and elsewhere where the remains of human giants have
reportedly been discovered. Most often they -- like the fifth
dimensional "Sasquatch people" themselves -- have been described as being
benevolent, unless provoked. - Branton)

A. They are probably inner earth drones [workers]. The deeper you get, the
stranger the life forms. The tall men are from the subterranean levels, lower
yet are the dwarfed deformed forms. I don't trust either of them. There are
other forms, that both the tall men and the dwarfed men fear and loathe, they
are similar to Bigfoot in appearance, but extremely violent and enjoy eating
what ever they find while it is still alive! They are subhuman and demented,
with an IQ around 15 (Note: Apparently, according to another source, these
lower 'Bigfoot' type creatures -- having more of a resemblance to apes than to
the more "human-like" faces and features of the much friendlier Sasquatch
people who frequent the surface -- dwell in wild cavern systems some 6 or more
miles deep, along with other very large and dangerous insectoid and quadruped
or serpentine reptilian life forms reminiscent to something from out of a
hadean nightmare. This is according to a report I investigated some years ago
of a group of speleonauts who reportedly broke into a vast underground
labyrinth west and northwest of Cushman, Arkansas, where they encountered these
types of creatures as well as friendly blue-skinned humans who claimed to be
descended from a family that had survived an ancient global deluge by taking
refuge within a large ship. These ancient people claimed that their ancestors
had come to the Americas and discovered the cavern 'world', wherein they
commenced to establish their hidden civilization. - Branton). The reptiloid
[hominoid as opposed to quadruped or serpentine] life forms stay in caves or
caverns that aren't very deep. They prefer the desert mountains. They use
camouflage rather than fighting, but they do carry vril rods for protection
[flash guns]. They do have a symbol, not the hokey "snake-with-wings" that I
keep seeing in the public (which is used mostly by the GREYS and also as a
medical symbol for the Delta Force - Branton). The REPTOIDS use a dragon with
its tail in its mouth [a circle] with seven pointed stars in the middle.



Q -- There have been reports of the Delta Force having black vans with no tires
that hover over the ground. How much are we [U.S.A.] already inter-working with
alien cultures?

A -- I haven't seen the black vans you mentioned. We are totally submerged with
alien cultures. Very little of the original human cultures have survived.



Q -- How can WE [the public] go after, or expose an alien culture which is
covert and hidden?

A -- Go for the best shot. That means go after the REPTOID. They stay near the
surface, they choose to try to hide and avoid contact. They are soldiers, doing
a job and usually there are two or three at each job site. They are 'manning' a
remote post. They are not to bother the humans unless they are endangering the
post. Most of them are not hostile and won't kidnap you, they may blast you
with a flash gun that may paralyze you [you won't remember the flash] for an
hour or two and cause confusion and mild fear. It could cause you to black out
[pass out] for a while. It is their way to escape and buy time to hide any
visible equipment. If you know any areas with repeated reptilian sightings,
then that is the place for you to look. They are fearsome to meet face to face,
and their voices are harsh and whispery with heavy ss's, but most of them
understand English [and several other languages]. Wear something with a reptile
[not something violent, like St. George killing the Dragon!] in sight. If you
see one, keep your hands OPEN, palm forward, arms DOWN. That is the non-
aggression approach. DON'T raise your arms, unless told to. DON'T carry
anything in your hands or arms. If he doesn't run, walk SLOWLY towards him. Let
him speak first. They consider humans repulsive and hostile and threatening
[with good reason!]. DON'T try to offer him anything, DON'T touch him or
anything of his. If he hisses at you, back up a couple feet, but DON'T LOOK
AWAY! It simply means he finds you smelly. DON'T try to overpower him, he is
stronger than ten or twelve men! Usually, if he hasn't run so far, he is
curious and wants to talk to you. FIGHT YOUR FEAR and your thoughts of panic.



Q -- How do we get closer to some kind of data to prove to others that there
really is a danger from non-human beings?

A -- Good question. I'm afraid we will find the proof the hard way, when we are
invaded. Try to keep a small camera with you at all times. When you search for
reptoids, keep it in your pocket.



Q -- Is there a specific location where the public can set up their cameras and
equipment to DOCUMENT an alien-government base, and/or their activities?

A -- The problem is, most of the meetings are held in military bases or
underground. The Groom Lake Facility does fly several alien craft that
regularly fly over unpopulated land that go back and forth from several bases,
Southern California has several notable areas. Twenty Nine Palms -- Lancaster
or Chocolate Mountains are well know for such activities.



Q -- Could you provide us with a copy of your badge or card you used at Dulce?

A -- Badges or cards never leave the bases. All exits have bars or walls of
metal... to open, to go out requires using the card. When you use it for an
exit slot, the card won't come out. Each time you leave the base, you are
issued a new card, with all the usual data about you, plus your weight added,
corrected daily. There are several mines in the Chocolate Mts. that open into a
base highway, but be aware that they are patrolled regularly and there are
cameras there.



Q -- There are so many types of really far out 'Aliens' seen in TV, movies,
magazines and popular fiction, is there one type of a fictional unknown race,
in your opinion, that fits the term 'Alien'?

A -- Yes! There are two, an alien that is totally indescribable, and another
would be a pseudo-alien.


Q -- What are the dimensions of the Dulce Facility?

A -- There are 1,700 paved miles of roads under Dulce and Northern New Mexico.,
towards Los Alamos is another 800 miles of tunnels. The base is STILL GROWING
[due west].



Q -- What is the top depth?

A -- The First Level starts 200 feet from the surface. Each level has a ceiling
of seven feet, except levels six and seven, the ceiling there is 45 and 60
feet. There are approximately 45 feet or more between each level. The average
highway ceiling is twenty five feet. The HUB at the base is 3,000 feet wide.
Use a 7.5 minute scale map to try to comprehend the size of the place.



Q -- Are there "regular vehicle" exits that can be observed from the ground?

A -- Yes, but they are inside Los Alamos.



Q -- Are their aerial exits that can be observed?

A -- Twenty miles due north of Dulce (across the border into southern
Colorado? - Branton) is a large hanger, it is hidden by a facade of cliffs.
Look for an isolated short road on the top of a mesa, with no road to or from
the top.



Q -- Are the ventilation shafts visible?

A -- The ventilation shafts are hidden by bushes or vents inside caves. There
are five on the top of the mesa, be aware there are cameras inside most of the
vents.



Q -- Is there external security, and could we recognize them in or around the
town itself?

A -- There is minimal security on the surface, most of the men [and women] are
Air Force or "highway crew" men. There used to be a Best Western motel that
hosts or hires a lot of Base workers from Level One. I don't know if that motel
is still operational. Most of the security force live in Santa Fe. Others live
at White Pine [Los Alamos].



Q -- Are there security sensors? What type? If so, what is their power source?

A -- Yes there are many types of sensors, radar, infrared, heat sensors,
microwave, EMGW, and satellite. Most of the sensors are powered by magnetic
power. The only thing you may notice on the surface, would be an occasional
satellite dish.



Q -- If you can, give us some information on the upcoming war with the aliens.
When does it start? Do you recommend going underground?

A -- The war has already begun. To start, they use "weather control" devices
that can cripple a city in hours. Storms, flood and drought -- with those few
things they can bring any country to their knees in a hurry. Yes, I do
recommend going underground. Choose a location that has a higher elevation than
the surrounding terrain. Pick out a cave or even an abandoned mining shaft or
two, bury a cache of supplies [including food and water!] near these locations.
Place the supplies in heavy plastic boxes that have tight lids [to prevent the
destruction by earth burrowing rodents and insects]. Then plan to live like a
squatter when it becomes necessary. If you own land, create a system of tunnels
and tell no one. Use your tunnels to secrete your supplies, and plan to live in
those corridors when you must.



Q -- What about the reptilian ships that are in orbit around the equator
(presumably including the original two 'planetoids' that arrived in
geosynchronous orbits around earth at 400 and 600 miles up in 1953. This
reportedly led to an NSA project which successfully communicated with the Grey
aliens and resulted in a contact-landing-treaty scenario involving president
Eisenhower and other Executive-Military-Industrial officials at
Muroc/Edwards/Holloman Air Force Bases in 1954 - Branton), are they cloaked?

A -- They are not cloaked the way you may think. It's more like nobody is
learning to SEE, even though it is in plain sight. Like the mail man becomes
invisible because you are so used to seeing him you never noticed he is alive.
One of the favorite methods of covert activities is to 'hide' their operation
in such an OBVIOUS way [or place] that no one would suspect it is covert (for
instance, hiding entrances to underground bases beneath religious shrines,
federal buildings, mining works, malls, libraries, lodges, hotels or basically
areas that one would consider the least likely places to hide or accommodate an
entrance to an underground facility. The underground New World Order 'FEMA'
facilities throughout the United States apparently utilize this type of
concealment with many of their bases. - Branton)!



Q -- What are the Greys susceptible to?

A -- The grays are photosensitive, any bright light hurts their eyes. They
avoid sunlight, and travel at night. Camera flashes causes them to back up. It
could be used as a weapon against them, but they recover quickly. It could buy
enough time to escape. Use commands, or nonsensical words in the form of
commands and they will back up. Their brain is more logical than ours and they
do not create 'fun'. They do not understand poetry either. What really confuses
them is saying things in "pig-latin". We learned that in a hurry, and used it
against them [the GREYS] in the Dulce Wars.



Q -- Can greys read your intentions if you came up behind one?

A -- Yes. They read your INTENT, because they use your body's frequency. The
human race broadcasts a frequency, that they recognize as an electromagnetic
impulse. Each person has a slightly different frequency, that difference is
what we call 'personality'. When a human thinks, they broadcast strong
impulses, in the case of 'fear' the frequency is 'loud' and easy to recognize
(by the same right, a calm and composed mind-set should be far more difficult
to 'recognize' - Branton).



Q -- Can we shield ourselves against their mental control?

A -- We CAN shield ourselves against them, however 95% of the human race never
try to control their thoughts, and controlling our own thoughts is the best
weapon. The average person rarely thinks in a clear pattern. That allows the
brain to think in a chaotic way. Control your thoughts, AND YOU CAN STOP THE
ALIENS ATTEMPTING TO ABDUCT AND CONTROL YOU. Controlling my own thoughts have
kept me alive for years.



Q -- Could you shed some light on the type of human the aliens are looking for
when they abduct?

A -- I can tell you that the most common are petite women in their early
twenties or early thirties, dark haired boys between five to nine, small to
medium size men in their mid-twenties to mid-forties. But, let me stress that
there are ALL TYPES of people being held against their will in the Dulce Base!
There are tall heavy men and women, teenagers, elderly folks and very young
girls in the cages AND the vats. I only mention the most common age-size are
the small young men and petite women. The boys are favored because at that age
their bodies are rapidly growing, and their atomic material is adaptable in the
transfer chamber. The young small women are frequently very fertile. The men
are used for sperm. I have no idea why they prefer small to average size men.



Q -- Did you ever see twins or triplets, etc.?

A -- Since you mentioned it, no. It never crossed my mind to search for them.
But then that doesn't mean they aren't there. There is no way I could have seen
everybody at that huge complex.



Q -- What is the prevalent human race at the Dulce Base? I am curious about
both the human workers, and the inmates.

A -- The human work force is made of people from every nation on the surface
world. The one thing they share is that they all speak english. If you are
asking if there are white, black, red, yellow and brown skin color, again I'll
have to say that there is no 'prevalent' race there. As for inmates, I could
see ALL races there. From what I could see, it looked like there were
more 'white' people, but again, I saw a constant flow of different people, many
I think, were only there for a few hours.



Q -- Please explain the method they use to identify each inmate.

A -- No one has a name. When first brought to this facility, they were issued
one large 'number'. Usually that code has a mixture of numbers and letters.
They show the place, how, and by who, followed by the time, age, sex and
finally the personal number [their S.S. number]. For example it might look like
this: NVLV-00A-00700-P00:00:00-00-M-000-00-000



Q -- With that huge facility, trash and garbage must be a real problem, how do
they dispose it?

A -- It was never a problem. Some of it is 'reformed' or melted down then
remade. Some of the wet garbage is 'eaten' by bacterial forms, and what's left
is vaporized in a vat like chamber. The residue of that action [it takes them
months to get enough to measure] is used in a complex lye and used to fertilize
crops.



Q -- Where is your family? Not just your wife and son, but parents and
siblings?

A -- Cathy and Eric are still missing. My parents died in a car crash when I
was in my teens. I have one brother, if he is alive I suspect he is inside an
underground base some where. I haven't heard from him for several years. Please
pray for them, please!



Q -- What is your birth date, and where were you born?

A -- 23 April 1941, Glen Ellyn, IL [actually in a farm at home, in the place
now called Glen Ellyn, my birth certificate list is at Wheaton, IL]



Q -- You have been through so much, and yet keep fighting, what is your biggest
fear?

A -- That the general public will forget THE TRAPPED INNOCENT PEOPLE in the
despicable place, and will ignore THE HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN, WOMEN AND MEN ADDED
TO THAT PLACE EVERY MONTH.

That's the end of all the story I got.


Read it if you want to.


It's another persons story and I know nothing about it other than that I just posted it.

reply to post by quakerdipps
thanks for the story quakerdipps, but i dont think this thread will be well received.
firstly its quite old and theres alot of threads already.
secondly, its better to make a few small quotes then post a link to the full story.
buts thanks anyway

I honestly think that if any of this was real that the u.s government would delete this post in a matter of seconds due to the breach of a secret security clearance. Next step would be of them looking for you on how you have this information. But I also believe that the government could also let things like this be put out because no one would believe it anyway. Well anyway when I read things like this I get so confused because I am a believer but seems to me if this was real the info wouldn't be released anywhere.....

reply to post by krazyiven


To say they would eliminate all information right when it gets to you,crazyiven. Would be to say they care about you crazy ivan.


I would find it hard to believe anyone at that base would care for you,if this information is true. Even if this information is false,I dont think anyone at this base cares about you.

Infact in the story it says they love crazy people staying.

reply to post by lacrimosa


So you dont think ,that you as a person will recieve this well.

Ok,that's all the "keys" im going to push. Have fun thinking for yourself now.

Some of that seems pretty interesting.. However, I hate to say, but I think the whole reptilians, spaceships, etc. are a little bit too far-fetched for me to really grasp, much less believe.

Cool story though!!

You can Google, "dulce base" and see that this story was copied directly from an old website. In other words, this is old information and hasn't been proven to be either true or false. Take it with a grain of salt.

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Let me guess, I should believe you and all of this just because right?

Costello is dead or missing? WTF! The story is he was killed in NYC. Did anyone from the Church of Dulce ever both to check his death certificate?

The Church of Dulce sucks as far as investigations go. Dulce is a place that can be visited. Go there and see what is or isn't happening. And no, interviewing locals for BS stories is not an investigation. You don't know half the nonsensical banter that goes around the Little Aleinn that I refuse to repeat.

As far as underground networks go, voids in the earth are easily detected via gravity surveys or echo studies. But hey, don't let science get in the way of a good story.

How I wish Dulce had its own forum so I wouldn't have to read this nonsense.

Originally posted by quakerdipps
Read it if you want to.


It's another persons story

I know nothing about it

I know "of" the best friend of Thomas (on the internet). She delivered more pictures recently, one is a secondary lab just like the first one released in the late 80s. She is the one who John Lear met, Branton, and the very researcher who wrote this story.

She admitted this story is a fabrication, and thats why she went public about a year ago because she was mad at how much the rumors were expanding about her best friend.

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Can you post a link for that please?