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Originally posted by nv4711
Hey scientists, what's taking so long with that nuclear fission propulsion system..?
I think the other one is the shill. Oh, and I don't mean Jim O.
Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by nv4711
Why can't you just be honest? Is it really that hard?
Repeat after me: I am a NASA shill and will do all their bidding.
There. Done and dusted, of all moondust too!
You know too... Another idiot. Welcome to the club.
Originally posted by Erno86
Third - NASA, with the help of the NSA, NRO and the current administration employ's a UFO coverup that denies any Earthly ET visitation, so that they can grease the pockets of greedy defense corporations and NASA, with U.S. taxpayer money in there so called "search for extraterristrial life." When in fact --- Other-worldy craft, have been cavorting through Earths atmosphere, for at least decades, if not hundreds or millions of years!!!
Even if they magically appeared now, I'd have my doubts they were legit. It just won't wash with me that these questions can't be dealt with in less time than it takes to tamper with footage.
Originally posted by zorgon
So every one of you NASA huggers out there... find me a NASA copy of the STS 75 and STS 80 film footage. When you can do that I will concede that maybe NASA is not hiding anything.
Now Jim Oberg has been asked this many times... and yet has never produced the goods, and he has more direct access than any of us...
Originally posted by nv4711
Zorgon brought up the Reptilian.. not me.. so your complaint is misdirected.
In the morning, about 9am it was already 95 degrees. An Army Captain pulled up in a jeep from the direction of the training area, whom we had never seen up to that point either, and informed us the exercise was over, "go back to your units".
Well....You probably have a pretty good idea about me by now, and I said: "C'mon Captain, we all saw that thing last night, and it wasn't any kind of aircraft we've ever seen. What was it...and who's"? We all were looking directly at him, then curiously, like something’s not right with this guy, like he didn't seem to be alive. Kind of a waxy face, almost plastic or mannequin like and strange light green color eyes and wearing black gloves in 95 degree heat in a full dress uniform with no name tag. And not sweating!
He said: "I don't know what you're talking about, now get back to your units"! After what we saw the night before and the crap from the AP's, I was getting pissed. And when I saw he wasn't armed, when everybody we saw was, I wanted answers. I still had my M-16 in my hands. I made a kind of threatening move by wrapping my hand around the grip and trigger and said point blank: "Why are you wearing black leather gloves in this heat and not sweating"?
He didn't answer. I clicked off the safety. It seemed like if you were a mile away, you would have heard that click. He twitched at this and looked at the weapon then me. He knew I wasn't impressed with his rank. Nobody moved. Like time stopped. It was uncannily quiet. He was about five feet in front of me. And I thought: "If he makes a move towards me, I'm going to cut him in half".
He took two slow steps backwards and turned to head back to his jeep. First, he would have jumped down my throat for not saying "Sir" if he was a Captain. Then I would have been standing before a court martial for handling a weapon in a threatening manner. Third, he started back to his jeep (with no driver) and no response.
I was going to stop him but the MS was really freaked out by this time and ran up to me and said: "Are you crazy? What are you doing"?
I protested and said: "Sarge, this guy's an impostor, can't you see that? Everybody else might be dead"!
He said: "You may be right but I'll find out what's going on when we get back. Don't take the chance of a court martial for threatening an officer"!
I remember say something like: "I already did that and if he's an officer, then I'm an alien"! The "Captain" heard that and turned back and looked at me with black eyes! It sent a shivering chill up my spine upon seeing this and said: "Did you see that? Look at him! His eyes are black now"!
I started to raise my weapon at him and tell him to stop and the MS got in front of me and said: "Stand down soldier, that's an order"!
As the Captain drove off back towards the training area I told the MS: "We'll never know now, that's the last time we'll see him and you aren't going to find out anything when we get back and know it".
He said: "I know, but we saw something special and can't repeat it, can we? Who would believe us? And someone would stop us one way or another. And if I let you shoot him, and he is what he looks like, where would we be then? And what makes you think he didn't have a weapon? Because you couldn't see one? He may have had something that could vaporize all of us, the size of a lighter"!
I said: "You've been watching too much Star Trek and when did you get philosophical? Last night you wanted to forget the whole incident"?
He said: "I thought hard about it last night and came to only one conclusion: We're being visited and we'll be told when they want to tell us. They are obviously much more advanced than us and don't seem to be a threat. Otherwise we would have been in the middle of it last night. So let's get back safely without shooting anyone".
Originally posted by nv4711
Let me just say that I'm quite positive that I'm much older than the average member here, I've lived in many countries and cultures and I've also been to quite a number of let's say "installations", government and otherwise where secrecy and "deny everything" is daily routine.
Your note is full of so many things that we could chat about...literally for hours. What really caught my interest was the story about the 'visitor' y'all had. I used to do similar things...get in the car...drive over half of God's Creation to 'visit' with people, scientists and some folks with special skills.
Remember...for someone to be able to do that (travel, etc.)...that takes a 'budget', schedules, etc. And in order for someone to do something like that (like I used to do right after 9/11 thru early -03)...someone who has a discretionary budget generally finances those kind of 'intel' projects. Does the term 'reconnoiter' mean anything to you? (LOL)! Just be careful.. They probably don't consider you guys to be a threat, or they'd have already 'bored you to death with conversation' (ROTFL!). A further consideration is the 'spoon-feed-effect'. No need to extrapolate on that issue/prospect.
Originally posted by Pimander
Being open is making all data available. It really is that simple.
NASA surveyed some 24,000 pilots on aviation safety over nearly four years, but the data collected has never been released.
From World News with Charles Gibson
By LISA STARK
The idea behind the NASA aviation safety program was simple -- ask those who work in the system day in and day out about safety-related incidents and then use the information to reduce accidents.
NASA surveyed some 24,000 commercial and general aviation pilots over nearly four years, but the data, collected through early 2005, have never been released. Just six days ago, those affiliated with the project got an e-mail, asking them to turn over any data to NASA and delete survey information from their personal computers.
NASA spent at least $8.5 million to design and conduct the survey.
The questionnaire covered dozens of safety issues including runway incursions, near misses and engine failure. One source affiliated with the project said it was turning up many more reports of incidents than were officially reported to the FAA.
"There's no question the FAA did not want this out in any way, shape or form," that source told ABC News.
The FAA denies this.
The Associated Press said it had been trying, unsuccessfully, to get the data released through a Freedom of Information Act request.
Just how sensitive the information is seems clear in a document from NASA denying that FOIA request. NASA said "release of the data ... could materially affect the public confidence in, and the commercial welfare of, the air carriers."
The union representing the majority of commercial pilots in the United States said the program is tremendously valuable. "What good is information unless we're able to analyze it and use it? Were some people trying to hide from this?" Captain John Prater, president of the Air Line Pilot's Association, asked.
Members of Congress have now demanded that the data be preserved and presented to lawmakers.
The administrator has now taken steps to make sure the safety survey data is preserved and the agency is looking into whether it can release it. A NASA spokesman told ABC News the data is still being analyzed, and that an analysis won't be finished until the end of the year.
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by nv4711
Let me just say that I'm quite positive that I'm much older than the average member here, I've lived in many countries and cultures and I've also been to quite a number of let's say "installations", government and otherwise where secrecy and "deny everything" is daily routine.
Now THAT is quite a statement...
A few years back there was another poster on ATS, who worked for one of the three letter clubs. He talked a bit like you... and in the end he came and 'visited' us. Won't bore you with the details... but he was DIA/AF Intel, and no he drove a yellow SUV not a black one
The military is highly compartmentalized, so when someone says... "I've also been to quite a number of let's say "installations", government and otherwise where secrecy and "deny everything" is daily routine" That sends up red flags...
As the fellow who told me about the eyes puts it...
Your note is full of so many things that we could chat about...literally for hours. What really caught my interest was the story about the 'visitor' y'all had. I used to do similar things...get in the car...drive over half of God's Creation to 'visit' with people, scientists and some folks with special skills.
Remember...for someone to be able to do that (travel, etc.)...that takes a 'budget', schedules, etc. And in order for someone to do something like that (like I used to do right after 9/11 thru early -03)...someone who has a discretionary budget generally finances those kind of 'intel' projects. Does the term 'reconnoiter' mean anything to you? (LOL)! Just be careful.. They probably don't consider you guys to be a threat, or they'd have already 'bored you to death with conversation' (ROTFL!). A further consideration is the 'spoon-feed-effect'. No need to extrapolate on that issue/prospect.
So if your not a NASA shill (which I doubt) just which Alphabet Agency do you associate with? There are several other agents on ATS, but they were man enough to show us their badge
Originally posted by nv4711
Zorgon brought up the Reptilian.. not me.. so your complaint is misdirected.
Originally posted by zorgon
Well that is one report from one person I have another one that is longer and much better, but no point wasting time on you. Just one thing to note... these 'reptilians' look like us, not reptiles... this is why you don't spot them Its only in the eyes.
Just for fun... here is part of the story....
You can read the rest here
www.thelivingmoon.com...
Originally posted by nv4711
Anyone that "shows you his badge" on a board like this only proves he's a fraud and the only 3 letter club he might be associated with is the AAA.
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by nv4711
Anyone that "shows you his badge" on a board like this only proves he's a fraud and the only 3 letter club he might be associated with is the AAA.
Now I know your just a troll and yeah I figured nv was for Nevada.
Funny how you ignored the NASA study
Well have a nice life Herr troll... it was fun
Originally posted by KonquestAbySS
Whats the point of paying taxes for a Government Space administration that lies to its own people. It seems like they hold NASA personnel on a higher peddle stool then the average American, they know whats going on within the NASA community, and those of us who want answers can't get them and we are left out to dry. I find that BS, that the majority of everything we pitch in for with our tax dollars is going to waste so some jackass with a PHD or Masters degree could lie to people. That's my beef.
Originally posted by Imtor
Of course there are paranoid people who believe in reptilians, yet not a single reptilian picture (im surprised there isn't a single photo/picture of a reptilian (even a fake one) while having at least elaborate Grey alien hoaxes).
A certain professor, who wished to remain anonymous, was engaged in a discussion with Neil Armstrong during a NASA symposium.
Originally posted by DJW001
What conference was this? When was it? Where was it? Most importantly, why do you believe nonsense like this? Your beef with NASA seems to be that they don't tell you the fantasy stories you want to hear.
Armstrong confirmed that the story was true but refused to go into further detail, beyond admitting that the CIA was behind the cover-up. "
This photo was taken at the NASA Flight Research Center at Edwards Air Force Base, California on 6 May 1960 as part of an elaborate effort by the CIA to cover-up the true nature of the U-2 spy plane program. On 1 May 1960 CIA pilot Francis Gary Powers was shot down over the Soviet Union during a spy flight. Cooperating with the CIA, NASA issued a press release with a cover story about a U-2 conducting weather research that may have strayed off course after the pilot "reported difficulties with his oxygen equipment." This photo shows a U-2 that was quickly painted in NASA markings, with a fictitious NASA serial number, and put on display for the news media at the Edwards NASA facility.
In reality, up to that time no U-2 was ever used by NASA. Unfortunately, Powers was captured by the Soviet Union and espionage equipment was recovered from the wreckage. Soviet Premier Nikita Khruschev exposed the cover-up and made much propaganda use of the America n deception.
What make you think it's a conference? It states it was a symposium. Do you know what a NASA symposium is?
What make you think it's a fantasy story? Can you prove it's a fantasy story?