What's Your Beef With NASA?

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posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by JimOberg
Ken Johnston says he was a jet pilot -- he lied.

Can you provide any source/link that says he said he was a jet pilot?


Ken Johnston says he test flew the Apollo lunar module -- he lied.

Can you provide any source/link that says he said he test flew the Apollo Lunar Module?


Ken Johnston says he was in charge of Apollo astronaut lunar photography -- he lied.

Can you provide any source/link that says he said he was in charge of Apollo astronaut lunar photography?


Ken johnston says he has a PhD in Physics -- he lied.

Can you provide any source/link that says he said he has a PhD in Physics?


Ken Johnston says he saw NASA scientists falsifying evidence of aliens on the Moon ...

Can you provide any source/link that shows that Ken Johnston witnessed NASA scientists falsifying evidence of aliens on the Moon? And does the source/link mention how these aliens look like?

From this www.abovetopsecret.com... thread you said "Ken Johnston's name is not Kenneth. The name he used on his military records was Ralph Kennedy Johnston". Can you provide any source/link that shows he use the name 'Kenneth' and Ralph Kennedy Johnston?
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posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 01:16 PM
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www.abovetopsecret.com...


The former manager of the Data and Photo Control Department at NASA’s Lunar Receiving Laboratory during the manned Apollo Lunar Program, Ken Johnston, has released quite a number of sensational statements recently in the USA. The specialist said that U.S. astronauts found ancient ruins of artificial origin and a previously unknown technology to control gravitation when then landed on the Moon.



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by assspeaker
We are flat broke and in extreme debt, yet it's just fine for NASA to blow 2.5 billion to send some robots that might not work to a dead planet. Meanwhile, here on earth, people are starving to death.


Well if we are broke, where did they find this money?

Senate Approves $662B Defense Bill


Ignoring a presidential veto threat, the Democratic-controlled Senate on Thursday overwhelmingly approved a massive, $662 billion defense bill that would require the military to hold suspected terrorists linked to al-Qaida or its affiliates, even those captured on U.S. soil.


goo.gl...



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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The rest of us aren't allowed to print money, but the government can.

So that's my best guess, they found it coming out of a printing press.

However I personally would like to see the defense budget significantly smaller, and the NASA budget somewhat larger.



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 03:05 PM
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Why Neil Armstrong refused to swear on what seems to be a Bible might seem to be a mystery. He may have his reasons why he didn't want to swear on that particular book. Maybe that book wasn't good enough, and Bart Sibrel who don't seem to have respect for the Apollo astronauts.

There are these rumors about the UFO sighting on the way to the Moon (interview with Buzz Aldrin), and the UFO sighting after they landed on the Moon. They reportedly also brought back some Moon rocks. The Moon rock given to Holland by Armstrong and Aldrin reportedly turned out to be fake, but i suppose that that Moon rock may have been stolen from the museum and replaced with a piece of wood. However, it seems the rest of the real Moon rock samples have been studied.
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posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 03:09 PM
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Sigh...



Why Neil Armstrong refused to swear on what seems to be a Bible might seem to be a mystery.


NO, not a "mystery" there.

Bart Sibrel is a sniveling piece of.....worthless bag of protoplasm, and he and his shenanigans are well known. Armstrong is too smart to bother giving that turd the satisfaction.



posted on Dec, 3 2011 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by ProudBird
Bart Sibrel is a sniveling piece of.....worthless bag of protoplasm, and he and his shenanigans are well known. Armstrong is too smart to bother giving that turd the satisfaction.

Thanks for confirming that Bart Sibrel is a worthless bag of protoplasm. Yeah, that Bart Sibrel seems to have no respect for the Apollo astronauts.



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by JimOberg

I asked you some questions about your accusations against Ken Johnston, but since you don't answer them, then we can conclude that your accusations against Ken Johnston are FALSE , right Mr. Oberg?



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 10:20 AM
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I asked you some questions about your accusations against Ken Johnston, but since you don't answer them, then we can conclude that your accusations against Ken Johnston are FALSE , right Mr. Oberg?


Well, let's see...

www.wakeupnowconference.com...

Then there's...



...and...



It is true that at one point, Reverend Johnston (the Doctorate is in Divinity, not science) was a "prestigious" Solar System Ambassador for NASA:

darkmission.net...

What is a Solar System Ambassador?


The Solar System Ambassadors Program is a public outreach program designed to work with motivated volunteers across the nation. These volunteers communicate the excitement of JPL's space exploration missions and information about recent discoveries to people in their local communities.

There are almost 500 Ambassadors in 50 states, Washington DC and Puerto Rico bringing the excitement of space to the public. Ambassadors are space enthusiasts from various walks of life who are interested in providing greater service and inspiration to the community at large.


www2.jpl.nasa.gov...

By your logic, since all of your questions have been answered, Oberg's other claims must also be true. Right?

Edit to add:


Can you provide any source/link that shows he use the name 'Kenneth' and Ralph Kennedy Johnston?


www.newspaperarchive.com...

Left hand column, about halfway down.
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posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001

Mr. Oberg accuse Ken Johnston for being a liar about many things, so Mr. Oberg need to prove his points, but obviously he can't, so we have to conclude that Mr. Oberg's accusations against Ken Johnston are FALSE...

You obviously don't know how to answer my questions for Mr. Oberg, beside i didn't ask you, so back off 'DJW001'...



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 10:53 AM
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You obviously don't know how to answer my questions for Mr. Oberg, beside i didn't ask you, so back off 'DJW001'...


If you don't know how to ask questions that support your point, don't blame me. I doubt Jim is going to bother to waste any more of his time on you, so why don't you just read this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
I doubt Jim is going to bother to waste any more of his time on you, so why don't you just read this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

That doesn't prove Mr. Oberg's accusations against Ken Johnston, 'DJW001', you obviously don't know whats going on here, and like i said, Mr. Oberg accuse Ken Johnston for being a liar about many things, so Mr. Oberg need to prove his points, but obviously he can't, so we have to conclude that Mr. Oberg's accusations against Ken Johnston are FALSE...

Beside, you obviously don't know how to answer my questions for Mr. Oberg, beside i didn't ask you, so back off 'DJW001'...



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 11:49 AM
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That doesn't prove Mr. Oberg's accusations against Ken Johnston, 'DJW001', you obviously don't know whats going on here, and like i said, Mr. Oberg accuse Ken Johnston for being a liar about many things, so Mr. Oberg need to prove his points, but obviously he can't, so we have to conclude that Mr. Oberg's accusations against Ken Johnston are FALSE...


The title of this thread is "What's Your Beef With NASA?" not "What's Your Beef With James Oberg?" or "What's Your Beef With DJW001." To summarize your beef with NASA, you are so convinced that space is teeming with aliens that the fact that NASA has never provided any confirmation of your belief must necessarily be due to a cover up, because you are incapable of even considering the possibility that you are simply wrong. There's no arguing with that.



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by DJW001
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That doesn't prove Mr. Oberg's accusations against Ken Johnston, 'DJW001', you obviously don't know whats going on here, and like i said, Mr. Oberg accuse Ken Johnston for being a liar about many things, so Mr. Oberg need to prove his points, but obviously he can't, so we have to conclude that Mr. Oberg's accusations against Ken Johnston are FALSE...


The title of this thread is "What's Your Beef With NASA?" not "What's Your Beef With James Oberg?" or "What's Your Beef With DJW001." To summarize your beef with NASA, you are so convinced that space is teeming with aliens that the fact that NASA has never provided any confirmation of your belief must necessarily be due to a cover up, because you are incapable of even considering the possibility that you are simply wrong. There's no arguing with that.


DJW001.... It's pointless... It's like arguing with a pathologically jealous partner " you're cheating on me..".... "No I'm not cheating"...."aha... You're a liar....cheater!"
This is exactly how these cognitively challenged believers are, and all one can do is get a divorce....

While they are on their crusade for the "truth", they believe every lie as long as it fits their distorted reality. Ironically, NASA could be lying and say yep.... We have constant contact to aliens and we meet over coffee and donuts every Wednesday afternoon in the west wing break room.... They would happily accept this lie as a truth...

Pretty sad.... And then again, it can also be quite amusing...



posted on Dec, 4 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by Anunaki10

Originally posted by ProudBird
Bart Sibrel is a sniveling piece of.....worthless bag of protoplasm, and he and his shenanigans are well known. Armstrong is too smart to bother giving that turd the satisfaction.

Thanks for confirming that Bart Sibrel is a worthless bag of protoplasm. Yeah, that Bart Sibrel seems to have no respect for the Apollo astronauts.


Sibrel has been "stalking" the astronauts for decades, trying all sorts of tactics to get them to "confess." He's sort of a one-man paparazzi, and in the case where he was "punched out" on tape, it's obvious that he went with the intent to provoke fisticuffs so he could then claim they were covering up things.

His tapes are always heavily edited and you don't see any unedited footage from him of encounters. An old story from the Daily Beast recounts some of his nasty tactics -- like luring Aldrin to a hotel for a fake Japanese film crew to interview Aldrin for a fake kids show about space.: www.thedailybeast.com...



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
The title of this thread is "What's Your Beef With NASA?" not "What's Your Beef With James Oberg?" or "What's Your Beef With DJW001."

You still don't get it... That still doesn't prove Mr. Oberg's accusations against Ken Johnston, 'DJW001', you obviously don't know whats going on here, and like i said, Mr. Oberg accuse Ken Johnston for being a liar about many things, so Mr. Oberg need to prove his points, but obviously he can't, so we have to conclude that Mr. Oberg's accusations against Ken Johnston are FALSE...

For the Third Time, you obviously don't know how to answer my questions for Mr. Oberg, beside i didn't ask you, so back off 'DJW001'...


To summarize your beef with NASA, you are so convinced that space is teeming with aliens that the fact that NASA has never provided any confirmation of your belief must necessarily be due to a cover up, because you are incapable of even considering the possibility that you are simply wrong.

I never mentioned anything about believe system, so YOU'RE LYING 'DJW001'. Look at for example THIS FACT! that shows NASA cover up not only UFOs, but even the U-2 spyplane program as well:


This photo was taken at the NASA Flight Research Center at Edwards Air Force Base, California on 6 May 1960 as part of an elaborate effort by the CIA to cover-up the true nature of the U-2 spy plane program. On 1 May 1960 CIA pilot Francis Gary Powers was shot down over the Soviet Union during a spy flight. Cooperating with the CIA, NASA issued a press release with a cover story about a U-2 conducting weather research that may have strayed off course after the pilot "reported difficulties with his oxygen equipment." This photo shows a U-2 that was quickly painted in NASA markings, with a fictitious NASA serial number, and put on display for the news media at the Edwards NASA facility.

In reality, up to that time no U-2 was ever used by NASA. Unfortunately, Powers was captured by the Soviet Union and espionage equipment was recovered from the wreckage. Soviet Premier Nikita Khruschev exposed the cover-up and made much propaganda use of the American deception.

Other documents show that NASA cover up UFOs


Another of our meetings put us across the table from the Ministry of Defense official who is in charge of the current study. By agreement, we are not yet able to make his name public, but we can give the name of the study, "Thread-3." One illuminating section of those papers contains details of UFO sightings by Soviet cosmonauts. Unlike American astronauts' reluctance to talk about the subject, Soviet references to UFOs were reported from the very beginning, with Yuri Gagarin himself. In the documents, Gagarin is quoted as saying UFOs are real, they fly at incredible speeds and that he would tell more about what he had seen in orbit - provided he be given permission to do so. The documents also provide information on American space encounters, including several references to things seen on the Moon by our astronauts, and how that information was removed from NASA's public files.

5. U.S. astronauts did encounter extra-terrestrial craft and there was a significant sighting made on the moon, all of which have again been cynically covered-up.

And one of the 'UFO pictures' put on public by NASA is NOT what astronaut James McDivitt saw while he was in space, and Colonel Charles Senn ordered NASA to stop re-opening of UFO investigations. Former NASA amployee Donna Hare's phone was tapped, and she was followed by 'Shadow Government'-agent looking dudes...

And then i mentioned this on page 15


On March 6, former astronaut and senator John Glenn appeared on the sitcom Frasier and gave a remarkable soliloquy: "Back in those glory days, I was very uncomfortable when they asked us to say things that I didn't want to say, and deny other things. Some people asked, you know, 'Were you alone out there?' We never gave the real answer. We've seen things out there, strange things. But we know what we saw out there. And we couldn't really say anything, the bosses were scared of this. They were afraid of 'War of the Worlds' type stuff, about panic in the streets. And so we had to keep quiet. And now we only see these things in our nightmares or maybe in the movies. And some of them are pretty close to being the truth." Aldrin did not comment.
Senator John Glenn - former NASA astronaut March 6, 2001

I also mentioned UFO Hunters NASA Files were they show footage of some objects that make sharp turn in space. And not only that. NORAD reportedly track about 500 "Fastwalkers" (UFOs) that enter Earth's atmosphere from deep space, and leave Earth's atmosphere.

'DJW001', you claim that NASA do not cover up anything, despite that i previously posted that prove otherwise, so you're either deliberately LYING, or you don't know what's going on here.
My advise to you 'DJW001', read what's going on here, and stop lying...
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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 03:44 AM
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For the Third Time, you obviously don't know how to answer my questions for Mr. Oberg, beside i didn't ask you, so back off 'DJW001'...


What part of" the title of this thread is not 'What's Your Beef With James Oberg'" do you not understand? You are perfectly welcome to believe every word that Ken Johnston says. If you want to discuss the nature of UFOs, why don't you start your own thread?



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 03:56 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
What part of" the title of this thread is not 'What's Your Beef With James Oberg'" do you not understand? You are perfectly welcome to believe every word that Ken Johnston says.

You obviously still don't get it... Mr. Oberg accuse Ken Johnston for being a liar about many things, so Mr. Oberg need to prove his points, but obviously he can't, so we have to conclude that Mr. Oberg's accusations against Ken Johnston are FALSE...

For the Fourth time, you obviously don't know how to answer my questions for Mr. Oberg, beside i didn't ask you, so back off 'DJW001'...


If you want to discuss the nature of UFOs, why don't you start your own thread?

Let me tell you something, NASA's effort to cover up the true nature of U-2 spyplane program and UFOs is part of NASA's job. Another thing 'DJW001', i don't think it's good for you to lie
(which your posts show), always read the posts properly before you say something, or someone might caught on that. 'DJW001', do you lie intentionally?
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posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 04:25 AM
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'DJW001', do you lie intentionally?


Where did I lie? I've caught you trying to twist my words, unsuccessfully, but you have no reason to accuse me of lying. By the way, telling me to "back off" is rude; this is an open forum.



posted on Dec, 5 2011 @ 04:40 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
Where did I lie? I've caught you trying to twist my words, unsuccessfully, but you have no reason to accuse me of lying. By the way, telling me to "back off" is rude; this is an open forum.

I never twist your words. Oh yes, you falsely claim that NASA never cover up anything, and you falsely claim that i mentioned something about believe system when i never did, so yes you're lying 'DJW001'. So i'm gonna ask you again, do you lie intentionally, 'DJW001'?





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