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So WHY was the chief scientist of NASA showing those false images at a NASA symposium along with that joke of aliens holding up a photo to the rover?
Originally posted by DJW001
I never said that professional wrestling does not exist. That is your interpretation, a product of your imagination. What I distinctly said is that professional wrestling is not really a sport. They do the same choreographed fight over and over again as they travel the circuit. It is like a play. It's make believe.
Who do you think everyone here believes is ten years old?
You claim that X-15 pilots makes no mention of UFOs, but you can see for example from this www.abovetopsecret.com... thread that informations show that X-15 pilots did mention UFOs
Originally posted by DJW001
Where did I claim that X-15 pilots make no mention of UFOs? Please link to that post or admit that you are making things up again. Use the search function if necessary. I have never, ever, claimed that X-15 pilots make no mention of UFOs. In fact, on other threads I have discussed X-15 UFO sightings. Just because I think they can be explained by ice or U-2 sightings does not mean I claim they never reported a UFO.
Although the paper submitted by the X-15 pilots makes no mention of UFOs, it is at least possible that, during a question and answer period, Walker may have made such a statement.
During a design altitude flight on April 30, 1962, two disk-shaped objects overlook the X-15 at an altitude of approximately 200,000 feet, while at a speed of approximately 3,400 mph. The X-15 had been launched from the vicinity of Mud Lake, Nevada, with Joseph A. Walker, NASA, at the controls. At the time of the sighting he was climbing at a pitch angle of approximately 30 degrees.
Walker sighted the two aircrafts passing overhead and reported to the NASA FRC Control Room at Edwards, >>Two UFOs just passed overhead!
I never made up things, i present stuffs from the real world
Have you already forgotten what you post? Go back to page 12 www.abovetopsecret.com... were YOU said:
Although the paper submitted by the X-15 pilots makes no mention of UFOs, it is at least possible that, during a question and answer period, Walker may have made such a statement.
Originally posted by DJW001
Like professional wrestling.
Read what I said: "Although the paper submitted by the X-15 pilots makes no mention of UFOs...." Did you read the paper? Did you see any mention of UFOs in the paper?
During a design altitude flight on April 30, 1962, two disk-shaped objects overlook the X-15 at an altitude of approximately 200,000 feet, while at a speed of approximately 3,400 mph. The X-15 had been launched from the vicinity of Mud Lake, Nevada, with Joseph A. Walker, NASA, at the controls. At the time of the sighting he was climbing at a pitch angle of approximately 30 degrees.
Walker sighted the two aircrafts passing overhead and reported to the NASA FRC Control Room at Edwards, >>Two UFOs just passed overhead!God, what is that out there?... What is that???... But this is unbelievable!Whats there? Mission Control calling Apollo 11...>These "Babies" are huge, Sir! Enormous! OH MY GOD! You wouldn't believe it! I'm telling you there are other spacecraft out there, Lined up on the far side of the crater edge! They're on the Moon watching us!
Originally posted by DJW001
Please tell me that English is not your native language. That might excuse a lot.
Originally posted by Anunaki10
Originally posted by DJW001
Please tell me that English is not your native language. That might excuse a lot.
You don't know if English is my first language or not. English as my first language or not, it wouldn't change the way of my postings.
I tell you what, while your provided papers might not show any UFO sightings "submitted by the X-15 pilots" as you say, the UFO sightings "submitted by the X-15" obviously are mentioned in other sources.
Originally posted by DJW001
Evaluating the two stories, it is easy to track one of them down and determine that it contains at least a grain of truth. The other is a bare faced assertion with absolutely no corroboration whatsoever; indeed, it seems to be intentionally vague to make fact checking impossible. You're welcome to believe it, but it is entirely a belief based on faith. It is at this point that someone usually offers to sell you a bridge.
So long as we're still on the subject of the X-15 and UFOs, you do realize that Walker's description in "Life Magazine" describes the object as being like a sheet of paper. Those must be some awfully short alien pilots. In retrospect, now that we have more experience in spacefaring, it is perfectly obvious that the mysterious white sheet is the frozen water condensation from the belly of the plane, caused by the extreme cold of the LOX tanks. As the spaceplane neared the apogee of its parabolic arc, the ice may have broken free and traveled parallel to the craft. Since an ice sheet has a larger surface area in relation to its mass, it would have had more air resistance than the streamlined plane, and been slowed more by the rarefied atmosphere at that altitude. This is consistent with the fact that in the photographs, the "objects" are falling away behind the craft. But you probably knew I was going to say that, didn't you?
Originally posted by JimOberg
One X-15 UFO story source you cite is a video. Please provide a link to it.
We have the 3.5 sec VHS tape of Joseph Walker's X-15 Plane Aft Camera video footage of two disc shaped AKA UFOs flying by Joseph Walker's X-15 Plane.
The tape was received from a women in Denver Colorado May 2009. She claims to be the daughter of a TV producer in Los Angeles who, during 1980, assisted in producing a TV program that AIRED on KTLA Channel 5 Titled 'UFOs'. At the end of this program was video play of these two disc shaped objects approximately 100 yards from the X-15 Plane. Very close up images of the fly by with earth atmosphere background. The two disc shaped objects appeared to be SPINNING and banking down toward lower atmosphere and away from the X-15 Plane. Color was METALLIC. Sun reflections were noticeable and in plane sight. The footage lasted 3.5 sec on edit board. Entry from left screen to right downward and fade to black by original editing producer. The fly by was shown four times, twice in slow motion for viewers.
We were asked to digitize this footage for a fee. Currently, this tape has been put into three media file forms and copied onto several flash drives. All media forms of this footage is privately owned by this women. We have copies under strict agreement not to distribute until the time is right.
The first Youtube video clip addressing his X-15 UFO incident was posted by us in 2009. Two frames flashed our website www.X15ufo.xxx with the time code posted in title line. Something interesting here with viewer stats. In one day, 300 approx view spiked to 1600 views most from Africa?
Since then our video posting has been DELETED! Two other Youtubers have posted video and as well as History Channel. In those video clips the footage is ABSENT!
We contact three sources for distribution to public advisement. Mr. Stanton T. Friedman, Colorado HQ M.U.F.O.N. Co-Founder John Schuessler, and S.E.T.I. .org website. Only Mr Friedman responded inquiring about distribution. Our reply is the same today, the owner of the footage and DV media has intentions to sell the property rights.
We are posting this blog to see if anyone else has seen this program in Los Angeles. If so, please contact us at x15ufo.net after Feb 15th 2011.
We are the media crew posting openly to online forums to others who may wish to add more information to this project.
Those disc shaped objects could have been man made (we don't know that) using different technology. They were only two and they were not illuminated in any way. We don't know why they were spinning. From the footage, visual was CLEAR and you could see the DETAILS on the objects. Size approximate 40-60 ft. in length. 20-30 ft. height.
A Youtube posting is out of the question as the previous test post proved Google people are CENSORING the topic. Hopefully this will reach someone before this blog gets deleted.
Our recent attempts to contact media included: The Larry King Show, CNN, BBC, and several newspapers in major US cities. We have some interest in connecting with the conspiracy/UFO community. Coast To Coast AM was emailed recently.
How would 2.5 Billion dollars be best spent to help the US economy?
a) A 2.5 Billion dollar Mars probe
b) A 2.5 Billion dollar bail out to the US citizens
c) Put 2.5 Billion into our infrastructure
d) Pay down our debt
If you pick choice a), you have no common sense, nor do you place the people's best interests in front of your own agenda's. This is what our government is doing to you and me. They had a choice to invest this and more money in US, here in the U.S.
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by assspeaker
How would 2.5 Billion dollars be best spent to help the US economy?
a) A 2.5 Billion dollar Mars probe
b) A 2.5 Billion dollar bail out to the US citizens
c) Put 2.5 Billion into our infrastructure
d) Pay down our debt
If you pick choice a), you have no common sense, nor do you place the people's best interests in front of your own agenda's. This is what our government is doing to you and me. They had a choice to invest this and more money in US, here in the U.S.
Originally posted by DJW001
Are you saying that you think that NASA loads actual cash into a space probe and fires it into space?
No I am not saying that at all, but for what we get out of it, we might as well just burn it.
Originally posted by DJW001
Choices a-c are the same answer! NASA employs highly skilled workers; that money is going to pay their salaries. They spend that money here in the United States. If the project is canceled, they are unlikely to find a new position in their specialized fields, so they will end up collecting unemployment, which will continue to drive up the debt without contributing anything to the economy.
A-C are the same?..not in my mind, but how can you justify that statement?
Without knowing how many scientist worked on the project, and for how long, I would venture to guess that we could have just given the team .5 billion to sit on their butts, and had 2 billion to inject in the economy. But a generalized statement like yours shows no facts to back it up...so...back it up or.....
**** I don't just complain! I have solutions! So put this on your plate. I will take all of the scientist's involved, give them a shovel, and job on a road patch crew for 6 months, then I will send them back to the lab to develop a highway surface that can last for ten plus years without maintenance. If they fail, they get a year on the patch crew before they come back to the lab. Now this is a win win proposal, in that within one month, these boys would come up with a formula that shows how polymer A can be mixed with yada-yada, and the roads will last for ten+ years. We would then spend less on infrastructure repair, and be able to pay down the debt while NASA EARNS its keep.
Originally posted by DJW001
Pure research is infrastructure development, even if you are too short sighted to see that. Anyone who chooses "d" has an agenda unrelated to the best interests of America and its citizens.edit on 3-12-2011 by DJW001 because: (no reason given)edit on 3-12-2011 by DJW001 because: (no reason given)
I would reply to this "pure research" statement if I had any idea what you are talking about. As far as paying down our debt being bad for the U.S., I have no idea how that could be so bad. Of course, you might not have any interest of repaying the money we borrowed. Kind of like stealing is it not?
Keep on justifying this bs, and I will keep on showing you wrong.edit on 3-12-2011 by assspeaker because: ***edit on 3-12-2011 by assspeaker because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by DJW001
Edit to add: Bear in mind that the X-15 was a joint project between NACA/NASA and the US military. There are many reasons why so much of the X-15 archives remain classified, none of them having to do with UFO.
On March 6, former astronaut and senator John Glenn appeared on the sitcom Frasier and gave a remarkable soliloquy: "Back in those glory days, I was very uncomfortable when they asked us to say things that I didn't want to say, and deny other things. Some people asked, you know, 'Were you alone out there?' We never gave the real answer. We've seen things out there, strange things. But we know what we saw out there. And we couldn't really say anything, the bosses were scared of this. They were afraid of 'War of the Worlds' type stuff, about panic in the streets. And so we had to keep quiet. And now we only see these things in our nightmares or maybe in the movies. And some of them are pretty close to being the truth." Aldrin did not comment.
Senator John Glenn - former NASA astronaut March 6, 2001
Originally posted by assspeaker
Excuse me while I try to interject some common sense into this NASA turned UFO discussion.
How would 2.5 Billion dollars be best spent to help the US economy?
a) A 2.5 Billion dollar Mars probe
b) A 2.5 Billion dollar bail out to the US citizens
c) Put 2.5 Billion into our infrastructure
d) Pay down our debt
If you pick choice a), you have no common sense, nor do you place the people's best interests in front of your own agenda's. This is what our government is doing to you and me. They had a choice to invest this and more money in US, here in the U.S.
Let this question serve as my beef with NASA. No common sense was used, and NASA will spend as much as possible. Sure they could be funneling 2 of the 2.5 into black projects, while the .5 billion probes fail, but that is another subject to have beef about.
Please don't even try to tell me how this new, unknown, knowledge is going to be worth the money without some hard facts about how any past probes have justified their cost with profitable technology that was learned on the surface of Mars.
Good Luck!edit on 3-12-2011 by assspeaker because: ed