The Truth Is Viral - Libya: The Real Story

reply to post by OldCorp


Don't forget if you ever manage to make it in to Gaza.....

check out the ArcMed Hotels or even the Gaza Paradise in Gaza for your accomodation needs.....and the Roots Restaurants would even make a rich man cry. You should see what else is under development! Mate, I've even got a tour guide phamplet all ready for you for all the sites you'd like to see. It won't be too difficult to find a contact there for all your luxury items shopping list. Mercedes or Porche, they'll get it for you! If you like wandering the market places; they have a great feast of sweets and better quality fresh produce than I get here in our supermarkets!

Now where do I apply for a visa?

reply to post by AboveTopSecret.com


Thank you so much for the time and effort you put in to bring us this news I have watched your video and I am now that little step closer to the truth. Thank you.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by OldCorp

 

Don't forget if you ever manage to make it in to Gaza.....

check out the ArcMed Hotels or even the Gaza Paradise in Gaza for your accomodation needs.....and the Roots Restaurants would even make a rich man cry. You should see what else is under development! Mate, I've even got a tour guide phamplet all ready for you for all the sites you'd like to see. It won't be too difficult to find a contact there for all your luxury items shopping list. Mercedes or Porche, they'll get it for you! If you like wandering the market places; they have a great feast of sweets and better quality fresh produce than I get here in our supermarkets!

Now where do I apply for a visa?

Blue, I don't think I could afford to eat at Roots. That's a pretty swanky joint.



I don't think I can swing the Gaza ArcMed either.



But if they take Coke can coupons, I'll bet I could come up with the scratch to spend a day at the water park.

Wow - thank you so much for your time and effort on this. As horrible as it was to watch and hear - I still thank you. Sometimes things are so bad that it is awfully tempting to shove my own head right in the sand, but I fight to keep my head up and my eyes open. Even when it sucks - I'd rather know the truth.

My God - we ARE the bad guys. We really are. That sucks so bad, too, because I for one do not condone any of this. I don't know anyone personally that would!

I'm so sick of this - it makes my stomach hurt. I'm tired of learning about all of the horrible things we and others have done over the years in the name of power and control. I couldn't dig a hole deep enough to bury my head in at this point!

I think you took the 'Predator Drones' joke from Obama too seriously.

reply to post by bluemirage5


Wow no need to be a condescending jerk, just because I don´t completely suscribe to your very specific part of a global conspiracy in wich I have believed for years.

Everybody with half a brain could see for years that there is a plan to dominate the Middle East, I just don´t see them going for Saudi Arabia anytime soon, since other, defying countries seem to have the priority.

Please drop the omnipotent attitude, guy.

reply to post by AboveTopSecret.com


So wait a minute, all of a sudden we are supposed to be saying, they have all of these free social services we should too? All of a sudden socialism doesn't look so bad, I mean Kadahfi made it work right?

What side are we supposed to be on again?

Good work, not going to bash it, you've had enough of that.

If one is going to understand historic events, it is best to look at it from all perspectives, then find one truth to run with.

That's the way it is, in journalism.

Nice addition to ATS, and regardless of my thoughts on the subject, outstanding work deserves praise.

Originally posted by OldCorp
reply to post by godfather420

 

No it was not a dog, it was a human being. The clip I showed was clearly a hand being bitten into. There were so many terrible images I wanted to show - and planned to show - but even I must abide by the T&C of ATS; I'm not a special case in any regard, just a member like yourself sharing what I know.

please open a blog somewhere and do a watered down version here, and, the full story on the blog, it is required to make your claims bullet proof, those detractors need the full story, because they think they are right they will not go looking for the information that proves them wrong.
It is too easy to come here and say "you are a liar" and walk away, especially as the info's cannot be posted in their complete unedited truthfulness.

Maybe if people could see the horror of what has happened they would be less inclined to live in cloud cuckoo land and begin the process of educating themselves to the actual "state of lies and deception" as they currently exist.

If those people are currently engaged in "Steering Public Opinion" or "Information Warfare" or "Disinformation" or "Managing the truth hemorrhage", i hope that when they see the facts, that when they realise they are currently protecting the ability, for outrageous and disgusting acts of violence to be perpetrated against innocent people. That the ill informed, unthinking, uncaring, morally vacant, "people" such as themselves, pollute the informational stream at the behest of even more retarded, unthinking, uncaring, morally vacant, morons in powerful positions.
That they will take a look at the situation and realise, that without the ability to create confusion about the facts, that without obfuscation, without the ability to defend against the truth of these actions by lying for them
The whole unmitigated horror, and, destruction for money and oil, becomes less a mirage, and, more a defined image of a horrific monument of evil, with it's eye on the enslavement of the rest of humanity. Into a spiritually, morally, and financially counterfeit prison for mankind, and see that, "THEY" are a big part of it, and find something more amenable to the rest of the life on this planet, to do with their lives.
People will not willingly walk into a prison, only with the deceit that it isn't a prison you are walking into, will you go for no reason.

This is the first ATS video i have watched i normally go out of my way to avoid them, but i will be looking out for these in the future, thank you on some excellent research.

Herp herp it was a five fingered alsation, only found in libya derp derp.....

people present the truth as it is, for the truth it is.
The criminal enabler will lie like their livelihood and their lives depend on it, and, the lies only ever match the "Official Story".
Pretty easy to see what's what with those glasses on.

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Excellent points made, bump


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I am past pissed off! I have known to the degree our government is littered with sociopaths! I have been trying to spread the word and either people don't believe the info or they do and feel powerless to stop it! I am so tired of this ideology that I don't even try to discuss current events anymore! I know that there is a day of reckoning coming and feel like it's a good thing sometimes. Though as we get closer to this day I become equally afraid as well! Then on top of being torn by so many different negative emotions, depression becomes paramount! I feel like i have so many ideas to offer but noone to listen! I am ashamed of not just being american but of being human as well! I feel as we have come so far technologically but socially we are still neanderthals or worse!
If we continue to roll the dice with the odds stacking more and more against us in this game of pretending
there's nothing wrong, we will wind up in a stone age of the modern world with our children being the victims of our arrogance!

reply to post by nosacrificenofreedom


I feel you brother. Let that righteous anger vent before you have a stroke! If you want to help spread the word, then Digg this, and Reddit too. Here are the links:

DIGG
REDDITT

These are my first posts to either of those sites. I hope I did it right. Help me out by getting the word out; from what I understand, these two sites are famous for that. If anybody knows of other sites that accomplish the same thing, then by all means please let me know about them, or post the video yourself.

Thanks for all of the kind comments and support guys!

Bobby

Originally posted by OldCorp


reply to post by Raud

 

Arabs and supporters of Palestinians call me a Zionist as if that were a bad thing.

Are you saying your a zionist? If so what is so great about Zionism?

Thank you very much for the research you have done I know at times it must be extremely difficult to ford those rivers of hopelessness but keep it up. I still have mixed feelings about the Libyan leader as some people in Libya have stated that they did not like the man. But judging by the reactions of the media our "chosen" leaders and Ghadaffi's accomplishments, he was much better suited that what is running the show now.

reply to post by CaptainInstaban


Mate....I don't care what you believe. Global conspiracy in the Middle East? Well, never crossed my mind, who would had thought!

(rolls my eyes)

Originally posted by nosacrificenofreedom

Originally posted by OldCorp


reply to post by Raud

 

Arabs and supporters of Palestinians call me a Zionist as if that were a bad thing.

Are you saying your a zionist? If so what is so great about Zionism?

Israel belongs to the Jews, and it has since the very beginning of recorded history. People say - incorrectly - that this doesn't have anything to do with religion. On the contrary, it has EVERYTHING to do with religion. Even if you don't believe it, they do.

All three Abrahamic religions recognize Abraham as the man with whom God made His covenant. Part of that covenant, which the Bible describes as an "Everlasting Covenant," includes all of the land from the Nile to the Euphrates (even though Israel never expanded that far.) Here's what some Muslim scholars have to say on the subject.

The Dissenting Muslim
Scholar: Quran Says Israel Belongs To The Jews
Zionist Imam: Koran Says Israel Belongs To Jews
Wiki: Muslim Supporters Of Israel

Israel was promised to the Jews through Abraham and his son Issac, and any Muslim who says otherwise is going against their own faith. In Genesis 12, scripture which Muslims claim to revere as Holy, we are warned that God will "bless those who bless thee (Israel), and curse those who curse thee." Now if, as they say, Muslims accept this to be the inspired Word of God, then they should all be the biggest backers of Israel and not their enemies. But they aren't being true to their own scripture, and that's where we run into a problem.

What is a Zionist? To my mind, it is someone who believes that the Jews should have their own state in their ancestral homeland. There were no Arabs there - ever - until the Crusades when Muslim armies from Saudi Arabia invaded the Holy Land. Since the Jews had been dispersed by the Romans hundreds of years earlier, the Muslims just took over. They eventually built the Dome of the Rock on the ruins of Solomon's Temple, which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt who was there first.

The Jews had first dibs on the land, this is a lesson we all learn in elementary school. The Arabs have had a bad taste in their mouth for their Jewish cousins ever since Ishmael was passed over for Abraham's birthright that God wanted Issac to have. See, in Middle Eastern culture of the day, the first-born gets all of the goodies. Ishmael was Abraham's first-born; but there was a hitch - he was born of Abraham's wife's Egyptian slave Hagar. One of God's miracles was that Abraham's wife Sarah would conceive a child (at 90 ), and it was THAT child - Issac - that God wanted to have the birthright. The Arabs, feeling cheated out of the birthright and the covenant with God, have been pissed ever since.

So yes, because I believe in the Bible I'm a Zionist. If Muslims were being true to their faith, they would also be Zionists; because it is the will of Almighty God that the Jews occupy the Holy Land. To believe anything different is disingenuous at best, and blasphemous at worst.

reply to post by nosacrificenofreedom


You are right there! I'm sick of it too trying to explain anything to anyone. Perhaps I'll just sit back and enjoy the ride!

Whats going on is too hard for many people to grasp; no matter what you put in front of them, it's never enough. Perhaps when their families are touched by terrorism (God forbid!), they're sit up and take notice. It's all too easy for many sitting in the comforts of their own home away from the Middle East and Africa watching innocent people they don't know get squashed like bugs...little children included. What people forget is these innocent people are human beings too and it could happen to any one of us or someone we are close to.

Keep in mind NATO has no empathy for life when they drop their "humanitarian" bombs on innocent people to liberate terrorists we are supposed to be fighting in Afghanistan all for the almighty $$$ while Israel releases over a 1000 terrorists for one single innocent man!

Originally posted by OMFGitsJack
I think you took the 'Predator Drones' joke from Obama too seriously.

There are people right now having supper in Pakistan and there might be a drone of the USA go across the border and take them out along with the while building to get one person WHO MIGHT be there at that time, and you think that is something to joke about?

When is joking about using a 200,000 dollar piece of machiney to take out your daughters boyfriend funny, when it is the everyday reality for many around the world.

How would you like it tonight, if another leader joked about using their bombs to take our your neighbourhood, the day after a bomb killed your mother or father down the street.

You seriously need to look at this and realize, that is is joking about death, and it is sick, and you are evidence of a sickness to society, let your words be evidence of that.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by undo

 

Go to Lebanon, Jordan, Upper Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Palestine, Iraq, Iran, Turkey.......see any black Africans? Perhaps in Saudi Arabia and UAE on building construction sites but you won't see them roaming the streets because they're not allowed to!...

edit on 10-11-2011 by bluemirage5 because: (no reason given)

I saw Black Africans in:
Lebanon
Jordan
Upper Egypt
UAE
and Palestine

now by no means were they a huge proportion of the population, but they were there. I have not been to the other nations you mentioned.

reply to post by cartenz


There are no black Africans in Lebanon, as for Palestine they will either be Ethiopean Jews in the IDF or they'll be from the recent influx of African refugees.