Nassim Haramein & Klaus Dona. Ancient Stargate Artifacts, Ufos and Wormholes. Sun Stargate. 2011.

Well, everything require a payment.

I mean not about money!

Truth must be very expesive!!

Frami.

reply to post by JibbyJedi


Nobody has debunked it. But to be fair nobody (qualified) has been able to get a look at it, its part of a private collection and doesn't have an official name. It was on display in Vienna years back at some sort of unsolved mysteries exhibition where Klaus managed to take the only photos we have.

The pre-sanskrit on the base has been looked at by an experienced linguist but that is all.

If this were real I would be saddened that its collecting dust in someones basement rather than challenging beliefs the world over.

Unless an actual archeologist is allowed to have a look then I'm guessing its probably a fake.

reply to post by RUSSO


Was that a crystal skull he pulled out at the end?

reply to post by polarwarrior


Probably in the basement or vault of the Rockefeller Archaeological Museum.

People are going to believe whatever they want. Personally i don't by all this ancient alien stuff. If there were aliens they would have left their technology buried somewhere on this planet somewhere because you can't take everything with you, the monster that lives under my bed likes to steal my socks on occasion, so does the monster in my dryer. These so called aliens would have lost something somewhere and if they did build a civilization here or outposts underground they would still be here somewhere. I don't feel like wearing a tinfoil hat.

oops

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


Unless they don't use technology of this density?

You can't possibly know, neither can I, but the Bible and other Hebrew books have more than enough info about angelic beings and chariots that had fiery firmaments beneath.

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The Divine Throne-Chariot

Introduction by Geza Vermes

The Divine Throne-Chariot draws its inspiration from Ezekiel (1:10) and is related to the Book of Revelation (4). It depicts the appearance and movement of the Merkabah, the divine Chariot supported and drawn by the cherubim, which is at the same time a throne and a vehicle. The "small voice" of blessing is drawn from 1Kings 19:12: it was in a "still small voice" that God manifested himself to Elijah. In our Qumran text this voice is uttered by the cherubim and it is interesting to note that although the Bible does not define the source of the voice, the ancient Aramaic translation of 1Kings (Targum of Jonathan) ascribes it to angelic beings called "they who bless silently." The Throne-Chariot was a central subject of meditation in ancient as well as in medieval Jewish esotericism and mysticism, but the guardians of Rabbinic orthodoxy tended to discourage such speculation. The liturgical use of Ezekiel's chapter on the Chariot is expressly forbidden in the Mishnah; it even lays down that no wise man is to share his understanding of the Merkabah with a person less enlightened than himself. As a result, there is very little ancient literary material extant on the subject, and the Qumran text is therefore of great importance to the study of the origins of Jewish mysticism.

-- Excerpt from: The Other Bible, ed. Willis Barnstone (Harper & Row, 1985), p. 705.

The Divine Throne-Chariot

...The ministers of the Glorious Face in the abode of the gods of knowledge fall down before him, and the cherubim utter blessings. And as they rise up , there is a divine small voice and loud praise ; there is a divine small voice as they fold their wings.

The cherubim bless the image of the Throne-Chariot above the firmament, and they praise the majesty of the fiery firmament beneath the seat of his glory. And between the turning wheels, angels of holiness come and go, as it were a fiery vision of most holy spirits; and about them flow seeming rivulets of fire, like gleaming bronze, a radiance of many gorgeous colors, of marvelous pigments magnificiently mingled.

The Spirits of the Living God move perpetually with the glory of the wonderful Chariot. The small voice of blessing accompanies the tumult as they depart, and on the path of their return they worship the Holy One, Ascending they rise marvelously; settling, they stay still. The sound of joyful praise is silenced and there is a small voice of blessing in all the camp of God.

And a voice of praise resounds from the midsts of all their divisions in worship. And each one in his place, all their numbered ones sing hymns of praise.

If this isn't a description of a UFO coming and going, I don't know what is.

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Originally posted by LightAssassin
If this isn't a description of a UFO coming and going, I don't know what is.

This is.....
....but of course, "it didn't happen!"

reply to post by LightAssassin


Yeah but the problem is the interpretation. Either it happened just like that or it didn't. The bible being inspired by the Holy Spirit, i am not about to go second guessing Him. There's just so much we don't know that was lost and that we have nothing but faith to go on.

I reckon we will find out sooner or later how it is.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


I doubt we are second guessing him. In fact I would say we are interpreting it the way it should be. With an open mind to all possibilities.

It's pretty clear what they are describing there though, do you not agree?

Some of the smartest dummiesCan't read the language of Egyptian mummiesAn' a fly go a moonAnd can't find food for the starving tummiesPay no mind to the youthsCause it's not like the future depends on itBut save the animals in the zooCause the chimpanzee dem a make big moneyThis is how the media pillagesOn the TV the picture isSavages in villagesAnd the scientist still can't explain the pyramids, huhEvangelists making a living on the videos of ribs of the little kidsStereotyping the image of the imagesAnd this is what the image isYou buy a khaki pantsAnd all of a sudden you say a Indiana JonesAn' a thief out gold and thief out the scrolls and even the buried bonesSome of the worst paparazzis I've ever seen and I ever knownPut the worst on display so the world can seeAnd that's all they will ever showSo the ones in the westWill never move eastAnd feel like they could be at homeDem get tricked by the beastBut a where dem ago flee when the monster is fully grown?Solomonic linage whe dem still can't defeat and them coulda never cloneMy spiritual DNA that print in my soul and I will forever Own Lord

Huh, we born not knowing, are we born knowing all?We growing wiser, are we just growing tall?Can you read thoughts? can you read palms?Huh, can you predict the future? can you see storms, coming?The Earth was flat if you went too far you would fall offNow the Earth is round if the shape change again everybody woulda start laughThe average man can't prove of most of the things that he chooses to speak ofAnd still won't research and find out the root of the truth that you seek ofScholars teach in Universities and claim that they're smart and cunningTell them find a cure when we sneeze and that's when their nose start runningAnd the rich get stitched up, when we get cutMan a heal dem broken bones in the bush with the wed mudCan you read signs? can you read stars?Can you make peace? can you fight war?Can you milk cows, even though you drive cars? huhCan you survive, Against All Odds, Now?

Originally posted by LightAssassin
reply to post by polarwarrior

 

Probably in the basement or vault of the Rockefeller Archaeological Museum.

True

Bookmark, S&F.

reply to post by RUSSO


Apparently this lecture is from the Congress for Fringe Science in Saarbruecken, Germany.
I have found the Klaus Dona lecture in full length here.
But don't get excited, it's completely in German with no transcript available.
I think it was filmed by nexworld.tv, don't know if they are working on a transcript, maybe send them an email and ask.
It says in the comment section on the Dona lecture they weren't allowed to film Harameins part.
Eta:
Sorry, it's not in the comment section on Dona but on the German Version of the short Haramein clip here.
I just see the user Mayamagik posted 3 days ago the full version can be found at nexworld.tv.
I looked there but had no luck.

this is indeed fascinating...wonder about the origins of stones...could be fake,but seems legit to me
to all those Nassim critics...what is really a difference between one or the other physics theorist?
and Nassim is just that,a theoirst...could be wrong,could be right
we saw not so long ago in the science news that Einsteins theory was...somewhat likely wrong
so what does that tell you about classic physics?
that nothing is set in stoneas far as astrophysics is concerned...

well this depictions on the other hand ARE set in stone,and somewhat support Nassim's theories...if genuine of course

reply to post by RUSSO


This is just amazing, if true.

But I'm kinda sceptical about this Nassim guy on his other stuff and theories.

Originally posted by Pimander
reply to post by Namaste1001

 

This is why we are asking. The only way to determine a hoax is to investigate it.

This is either a hoax or hugely significant in my opinion.

The patina doesnt look right on those pieces.........that would put it to rest in short order if they tested those artifacts.....

reply to post by ManBehindTheMask


in fact it does for a well preserved,furnished stone relic that was not exposed to outside weather influence,
that is why I think it is legit

reply to post by darkraver


not at all to me it looks painted on...........thats what makes it suspect to me........

The other reason its suspect, is because its validity has been touted and that most basic of tests HASNT been done!