Ron Paul Explains How Obama Is An Elected Dictator, page 2
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reply posted on 9-11-2011 @ 02:04 PM by Praetorius
Originally posted by Grifter42
I like Ron Paul, I really do, but I don't think he'd be a good president. He's quite old. We've already had Reagan, and this guy could be Reagan II, The Senile.

I'd like to reference Winston Churchill and Charles de Gaulle as far as your concerns about Paul's age. Some things simply get better with age, and Paul is physically active and leads a healthy life (he's a doctor and former military, come on).

I do agree with what he's saying about the Fed, but he's too religious. He's backwards in some ways.

Would you care to clarify these points with any specifics? Unlike a good chunk of the rest of the republicans, Paul doesn't wear his faith on his sleeve and is dead-set on abiding by the dictates of his office, just as he has with his terms in congress.

As far as him being backwards, clarity again (please) - it seems to me that he sees through the eyes of history and clearly understands that some "progress" we've made have done more harm than good, and that getting back to our founding doctrines is the right fix.

I think it's odd, how Obama is a corporate shill, collaborated with the medicare industry while making the healthcare bill, to the point where it's almost identical to healthcare beforehand, but still the media bashes him. No honor among crooks, and the rich, and the political are crooks to the Nth degree.

Obama's no more of a corporate shill than Bush was, and I don't think he gets any more unfair treatment in the media (or other circles) than Bush did, either...as far as politicians: this is why I love the fact that Paul is a STATESMAN. Big difference.


reply posted on 9-11-2011 @ 02:07 PM by LiveEquation
reply to post by ZombieJesus



I take it you were busy in church singing Halelujahs when the tea party held the economy and congress hostage. I guess also you were at a christian camp when The US credit rating got downgraded.

You really have no idea at all what happened July-August?

Who is Ron Paul? ask Kent Snyder, Ron Paul's former campaign manager who died from pneumonia because he couldn't afford health insurance.
edit on 9-11-2011 by LiveEquation because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 9-11-2011 @ 02:34 PM by daynight42
reply to post by ModernAcademia



He said he's on the verge of being one. To leave out that important word, would be to put words into his mouth.

Listen to it carefully. Of course, people pick out what they rather hear. It was probably set up that way (the interview) so that people would react to it and post it all around. If they can't get you tuned into the TV, they'll try to get their message to you somehow on the internet through YouTube.

Anyone who says they are against TV had better be against YouTube too. They are one in the same, now, especially since YouTube just added a channel lineup.

Yep, now how are you going to escape the tube?



reply posted on 9-11-2011 @ 02:35 PM by OLD HIPPY DUDE
An executive order in the United States is an order issued by the President, the head of the executive branch of the federal government. In other countries, similar edicts may be known as decrees, or orders in council. Executive orders may also be issued at the state level by a state's governor or at the local level by the city's mayor. U.S. Presidents have issued executive orders since 1789, usually to help officers and agencies of the Executive branch manage the operations within the federal government itself. Executive orders have the full force of law,[1] since issuances are typically made in pursuance of certain Acts of Congress, some of which specifically delegate to the President some degree of discretionary power (delegated legislation), or are believed to take authority from a power granted directly to the Executive by the Constitution. However, these perceived justifications cited by Presidents when authoring Executive Orders have come under criticism for exceeding Executive authority; at various times throughout U.S. history, challenges to the legal validity or justification for an order have resulted in legal proceedings.


en.wikipedia.org...


Executive Order appears to have many meanings and purposes, thanks to a group of people we call, lawyers.
Lawyers, "interpret", for corporations and elected officials on how to use wording in laws and their interpretation of the laws ,to their advantage over the people.
The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution of the United States and The Bill of Rights were written very plain and simple for a reason, to leave no room for interpretion and infringement of the RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE.
Like everything else , Executive Order has lost it's meaning and purpose and has become a decree of law and power over the people.


reply posted on 9-11-2011 @ 03:37 PM by projectvxn
reply to post by tothetenthpower





Well, Ron would basically do the same thing if he got elected.


How so?



He's said he would abolish federal agencies, shut down the fed and bring the military home. How else would he do it other than Executive Order?


He couldn't do that with an EO. He'd have to do it through congress and get the support of the people in the process.



I dont' think Congress or the Senate would ever agree to it. And although I'd support him 100% for doing it, it's a littie bit of " Pot, meet kettle".


It would only be "pot meet the kettle" is he actually tried to abolish said agencies with an EO, which wouldn't stand up to judicial review.


reply posted on 9-11-2011 @ 05:46 PM by ZombieJesus
reply to post by LiveEquation





I take it you were busy in church singing Halelujahs when the tea party held the economy and congress hostage. I guess also you were at a christian camp when The US credit rating got downgraded.


Impressive, you were able to deduce all that from my one post?



You really have no idea at all what happened July-August?


Lets try this again. Here is my initial post/question:


I honestly havent been keeping up with the Tea Party recently, could you please elaborate on what they did or at least post a link?


I honestly don't see what I did or say to deserve such a condecending, arrogant response, all I did was ask a simple question
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