The mind creates what we call reality

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posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 08:40 PM
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Einstein once said “I like to think that the moon is there even if I am not looking at it.". I like to think I have a million bucks but that isn't the case. The real question is WAS THE MOON THERE BEFORE IT WAS OBSERVED? Is the moon there after it's observed or are we seeing a projection of quantum information? Does observation really collapse the wave function? I think the answer goes deeper than that. I think the CHOICE of the Observer causes a measurement to occur.

We see this in the double slit experiment, delayed choice experiment and the quantum eraser delayed choice experiment. Our choice to make a measurement today will determine a subatomic particles path in the past. If light were to travel to earth from a distant star, it would take all possible paths until an observer on earth carries out a measurement then it's path would be determined.

I thought about this on a macroscopic scale. I usually walk to the store across the street and as I was leaving, I thought about all of the probable states that could occur. Would I see an old friend at the store? Which cars would pass while I waited to cross the street or which workers would be at the store today.

These things are in a state of superposition until I walk to the store. There all probable paths. When I walk to the store it then becomes a measured event. I then thought that quantum information and the Observers mind must be connected.

So this means nothing exists until an Observer makes the choice consciously or subconsciously to cause a measurement to occur. How can that tree exist in the woods if it's not being measured? What state is the tree in before you go out into the woods? In your mind it's in a state of superposition until it's state is measured.

I think we ask the wrong question. We ask is the tree in a state of superposition. The tree isn't in a state of superposition. The quantum information in the mind of the Observer is in a state of superposition.

SO EVERYTHING IS A SIMULATION OF QUANTUM INFORMATION IN THE MIND OF THE OBSERVER.

How can any objective reality exist when it's not being measured? There's isn't any universe out there. We created the universe. When I say we, I mean the Universal Mind having these "me" experiences because of decoherence.

This is all a construct of quantum information in the mind of the observer.

The next second is a superposition of probable states. You could die in the next second, get a phone call, a knock on the door, an ache in your ear and more. So how can you say anything exists until it's measured and observed?

The universe is being constructed from moment to moment by quantum information from the mind of the Observer.




posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 08:45 PM
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I know the Giant Sequoias exist and have grown for thousands of years... but I've never seen one in person.

I know a baby grows inside a pregnant woman even though I can't observe or measure it.



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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I agree, in that we are slaves / imprisoned by our
own perceptions.
Perceptions and how we think about/ analyze them(or don't in many cases) is all we personally really know.
Life and the world is different for each individual.



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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This is an interesting theory. I've never heard it put this way before.
However, I don't agree with you.

Example.
One person is walking down a unknown path. They see a tree.
Another person walks down the same path and sees the same tree.
If the tree does not exist until it is observed, then how do two separate minds create the same tree?



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by AstroBuzz
I know the Giant Sequoias exist and have grown for thousands of years... but I've never seen one in person.

I know a baby grows inside a pregnant woman even though I can't observe or measure it.


But you either read, saw a photo, saw on TV, or heard about them (all perceptions) and believed it.



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by AstroBuzz
I know the Giant Sequoias exist and have grown for thousands of years... but I've never seen one in person.

I know a baby grows inside a pregnant woman even though I can't observe or measure it.


The question is HOW do you know about these things?
You weren't born with this knowledge. If some sort of outside source gave you this knowledge then you agree with his theory.



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by Matrix Rising
These things are in a state of superposition until I walk to the store. There all probable paths. When I walk to the store it then becomes a measured event. I then thought that quantum information and the Observers mind must be connected.

So this means nothing exists until an Observer makes the choice consciously or subconsciously to cause a measurement to occur. How can that tree exist in the woods if it's not being measured? What state is the tree in before you go out into the woods? In your mind it's in a state of superposition until it's state is measured.

I think we ask the wrong question. We ask is the tree in a state of superposition. The tree isn't in a state of superposition. The quantum information in the mind of the Observer is in a state of superposition.

SO EVERYTHING IS A SIMULATION OF QUANTUM INFORMATION IN THE MIND OF THE OBSERVER.

I don't know much about this stuff but, this made me immediately think of that old concept of the sun revolving around the earth.

Just a random thought but, maybe the objects create us instead of the other way around! hehehe



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 08:54 PM
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Things exist. The mind is our way to sense these things. I am not the center of the universe, and to say that my mind creates reality is to give that implication.

Yes, my mind might create "my reality", but that is not the same thing as actual reality, but rather the best approximation of reality that my brain can sense. We're all hobbled by our own experiences, biases, and limitations.



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 08:55 PM
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no. not at all. reality is there, and our senses allow us to perceive it, why do we have to assume it's in our minds?
sure we can construct a dreamstate reality, but our waking lives, what we see here and now, is existing on a planet.
a real planet, with real animals, real oceans, real people and real thoughts. it's not in our heads.


although i dont agree with this video i'm sure the people who agree with this thread will love it.



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by AnIntellectualRedneck
Things exist. The mind is our way to sense these things. I am not the center of the universe, and to say that my mind creates reality is to give that implication.


Saying that you mind creates reality would mean that your mind creates the universe.
How you be the center of something that doesn't exist?



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 08:56 PM
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You said:


Example.
One person is walking down a unknown path. They see a tree.
Another person walks down the same path and sees the same tree.
If the tree does not exist until it is observed, then how do two separate minds create the same tree?


Their not two separate minds. It's one mind having "me" experiences. We're under the illusion of separation because of decoherence.



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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Very true.
We don't Create reality.

We each simply have our individual perceptions of it.



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by yourmaker
no. not at all. reality is there, and our senses allow us to perceive it, why do we have to assume it's in our minds?
sure we can construct a dreamstate reality, but our waking lives, what we see here and now, is existing on a planet.
a real planet, with real animals, real oceans, real people and real thoughts. it's not in our heads.


although i dont agree with this video i'm sure the people who agree with this thread will love it.




A recent study suggested that the odds of our reality being a simulation is greater than the odds of our reality actually being reality.
I do agree with you though, I think that everything on this planet and in the universe is real.



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by Matrix Rising
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You said:


Example.
One person is walking down a unknown path. They see a tree.
Another person walks down the same path and sees the same tree.
If the tree does not exist until it is observed, then how do two separate minds create the same tree?


Their not two separate minds. It's one mind having "me" experiences. We're under the illusion of separation because of decoherence.


Let's say that we are all one mind and this "one mind" creates everything. NOTHING exists.
How does our "one mind" exist? and why?



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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How are you defining "real"?

What is real for you may not be real for me.
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posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by Namaste1001
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How are you defining "real"?

What is real for you may not be real for me.
edit on 8-11-2011 by Namaste1001 because: (no reason given)


Real as in; not an illusion.



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by Chamberf=6
I agree, in that we are slaves / imprisoned by our
own perceptions.
Perceptions and how we think about/ analyze them(or don't in many cases) is all we personally really know.
Life and the world is different for each individual.


Interesting choice of words (speaking or Freud) as one can just as easily say that we are entranced within a neverending wonderland due to our perceptions. If our perceptions create our reality, what's to stop us from making that reality a really cool and great one? That's in no way a criticism, just the opposite side of the same coin.

Firstly, excellent thread OP and VERY WELL stated. So many adages and theories come to mind in relation to this thought - "perception is reality", the law of attraction, "ask and you shall receive", etc.

I absolutely agree with everything you said (same as you Chamberf) and I do believe that the Universal Mind is what creates the collective quantum energy that is both amassed and moulded by everyone and everything. It's how each person manipulates the energy to create their own reality and perception of said reality. You could really keep going on and on with hypotheses about your statements. Food for thought is what makes the mind flexible and open. Very well done indeed!

S & F!


Timidgal



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by GmoS719

Originally posted by Namaste1001
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How are you defining "real"?

What is real for you may not be real for me.
edit on 8-11-2011 by Namaste1001 because: (no reason given)


Real as in; not an illusion.


Everything you see is in your mind. Is that an illusion?

The eye takes light, turns it into an electric signal, passes it down the optic nerve to the brain where it takes that electric signal and decodes it into an image. You are not seeing what is out there rather your brain's interpretation of the electric signal passed to it.
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posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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I'm going to skip the quantum physics which in it's own is a vast topic and go from a strictly physiological standpoint which says the mind creates reality.

Light reflects off a surface goes into the eye and strikes rods and cones which create nerve impulses that travel to the brain.
Pressure waves called sound travel through the air until they vibrate on an eardrum and cause an electrical impulse
to travel to the brain.
Nerve receptors in the fingers feel the pressure of touch which travels up nerves in the arms and into the brain.

All these incoming signals are processed by the brain and a "IMAGE" of the world is made out of this information.

Now is this "image" real or just a virtual reality that the brain makes up?



posted on Nov, 8 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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Close you eyes and touch something.
It's still there even though you can't see it.
Regardless of how it feels, you CAN feel it.
Seeing something that isn't there, is an illusion.
What you are describing is perception.





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