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This is bloody ridiculous. To be quite honest, anyone claiming without any doubt that "they have an open mind" are not really to be trusted.
Surely the first step of trying to have an 'open mind' is realising that all your interpretations, assumptions, beliefs etc. could be entirely wrong- even the information collected via your senses could be incorrect.
All you have done is planted yourself firmly on the otherside of the fence with the same rhetoric.
All we can do is attempt as best we can to consider things fairly. Truly fairly.
I'm certainly not going to claim that I necessarily do such a thing but I will absolutely NEVER claim I have any kind of divine license to express or enforce an opinion.
As one fine Astronaut put it, "There really is a Santa claus "
PPL like this one should be locked up and all their teachings burned
WRONG... Thats not how science does it...Only Religeous fanatics
like Catholics and the likes of the Spanish Inq....
"The Bible" has been mis-translated as all the holy books have - big time...........we have a personal friend that is very well educated and a world known archeologist that says many books were thrown out, missing, revised and one big example is the word "God"...........in all the original scriptures one simple letter was erased......s
No where in the original scriptures does it say "God" it says "Gods" and that one simple omission, that one simple letter changes an entire concept............one of many.
I could go on but it would take tens of thousands of words and hours to show you how all the holy books have been revised with many books either thrown out or missing.
Many people will not, cannot, think outside the box they were placed in from birth onward. They live, vote and believe in the exact same way they were taught and dig no further.
We are god........all of us together. Like drops of rain and "god" is the ocean. Like cells in a body and "god" is the body.
That is why when you screw over someone, you hurt someone, you are actually messing over a part of yourself for you and me and all of us are a part of the great whole some call the source.
Simply put down that remote, that Xbox, whatever distraction you have and do some serious research.
I agree, but remember…you shouldn’t be open to EVERYTHING, or else you end up in a spot where YOU are.
Our scientists right now are on the verge of being able to clone and create life outside the "normal" procreation methods.....again. [/quote[
They’ve been doing that for along time.
I will not reply back to any other posts blasting how their religion is right for that is everyone's right to believe whatever they chose to believe.
I agree with you there missy, tell that to 95% of the people in this thread will ya?
If you at least do not pick up a few of the above mentioned books and read them, than you will continue to your dying breath being manipulated like most of humanity.................missing out on your true potential.
Let me ask you one thing. Do you talk to anyone in your mind? Not talking to yourself necessarily, but another….being in your mind? Just tryin to…gage where you’re at
But belief without deep and long research, reflection and reading thousands of books, simply believing in that old time religion is, again in my humble opinion, simply taking the easy way out and turning your back on why we are here, where we are going and our true potential.
Actually that depends on which religion you’re talking about. Grouping up RevGen’s belief as the same would be stereotyping.
The true history of the human species has purposely been hidden from us in order to control us and mask our true potential, keeping us enslaved both physically, mentally and spiritually as well as dividing us as a species.
Most people are too busy, distracted or lazy to do the serious, indepth research in this one area..........they simply accept the "normal" "rational" explanations that the majority have accepted for eons.
I agree with that part, however it is by programming most people are the way they are. I would recommend for you to do some research of people who USED to think like the way you do.
Instead of simply accepting whatever you were spoon fed, do some research and than you will be secure in whatever you chose to believe that you were not indoctrinated but rather arrived at whatever conclusion you arrive at truly on your own.
I agree with you as well here, however again it depends on what you are referring to by “spoon-fed.” If you’re talking about people here that are maybe 50 to 60 years old maybe it was true, but with my generation onward things have been much different.
The irony is apparently lost on you, as you don't see that your "faith" blinds you and closes your mind. You cannot have faith unless you remove all the "?'s", and change them to "!'s".
Having an open mind is not the same as believing anything no matter how illogical or improbable it is.
It's actually about being open to constantly changing your views and ideas as new evidence presents itself. Which by definition is the opposite of religion.
Apparently, censorship is also the way forward...
Why, does one book compiled with a political motive gain precedance over a book written with an entertainment motive?
...and more importantly, why do you believe you qualify to make the judgement of what insults your god? Some would consider that itself blasphemy by implying he could be offended so easily by man and more so by equating yourself with somekind of 'Earth guardian' for God.
Well, how else do you explain how he came, and how he left? I know there are some who try to "church it up" but the facts remain. Jesus said, "And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world." (John 8:23) What do you think the term, not of this world means, anyway? If one is not of this world, then one is, by definition, an Alien, an extraterrestrial being. An EBE. The man had more knowledge than any other human did, like how to rearrange the molecules of water and change it into wine? And how about his skills in gravity control and manipulation? If I had that knowledge, I could walk on water too. The theological differences between competing groups of early Christians were so great that they make modern day differences between Catholics and Protestants look awful insignificant by comparison.
Early Christianity was deeply divided over who Jesus Christ was, and where or not he was Divine.
Ancient Christians believed the Holy Spirit is Female and She is the true Mother of Jesus Christ, not Mary
If Jesus Christ told people he was a space alien, nobody would have known what it meant.
The ancients had no concept of extra-terrestrial life, nor of outer space.
To them, the stars were imbedded in a ceiling just above the earth. To them, the planets were nothing but wandering stars on their astrology charts. If they saw a UFO, it was attributed to the Glory of the Lord. If they saw an ET Being, it was said to be a Demon, Angel, or Monster of some sort.Telling people about life on other planets, and ETs visiting Earth back then would have resulted in much unnecessary confusion.
If Jesus Christ were a EBE, the best thing for him to do would be to do exactly what he did – tell people he was from heaven, but leave his precise nature a mystery. Trouble is, the Nician Council turned him into a Divine God, and now most Christians believe that, even without knowing the origin thereof.
Obviously Aliens exist in our dimension youd have to be an idiot to think not. When we send microbes to other planets or people to other planetary bodies they are aliens, we are aliens. We were put here by aliens and our government knows this hence why they wont give you proof, but it only takes logic and a analytical mind.
Only someone with no ability to rationaly analyze and think for them selves would beleive this garbage.
But your refusal to believe that maybe, just maybe there is life out there is just as ignorant, isnt it? Some of the most brilliant minds of our time, Stephen Hawking included said they do believe that there is life out there. The universe is simply too vast to assume otherwise.
All fair but your missing two main points. The first is those odds you are listing are for life like US to form. But life doesnt have to be like us, does it? Case in point:
You know what man, unless you see a ufo land in your backyard and he comes to shake your hand and you can see hear smell touch and taste him you yourself are running on faith.
What if, just what if those new views don’t undermine his religion in any way just like what he's saying wouldn't fit in your religion that these aliens will come save you in the end? Then you could easily assimilate it into the picture cuz it’s naturally a part of the puzzle to begin with. You seem to hold yourself highly but…dude!
Hm do you REALLY believe that you're just a physical body man?
Of what faith or religion or belief are you? Just askin, cuz here’s everyone sayin “open mind…open miiiind” yet if you read the bible or quran with a closed mind no matter how many times you read it you’ll likely get the same result.
You should stop assumig things like a Christian doesn't research and is only under the mind control of a preacher. Have I thrown the assumption you are under the control of aliens at you? Didn't think so. I'm sure you can think for yourself so please understand I can as well.
The Monoliths with heiroglyphs that are translated with the Rosetta stone and other 'tablets'. Using your argument, isn't there room for error in those translations
Interesting you mention the last 50 years though, why didn't aliens change our DNA in the history before that?
That is a freaky vision though. Was it given to you by the aliens, a specific group? Or was it a dream you had? Did the aliens contact you? I want to know more about your vision to understand not to humiliate you.
Project Blue Beam. Where would one do "Research?"
Two scientists with high level security clearances describe the ground-based and satellite technologies which can beam holographic images of religious figures and UFOs over an region, such as a battlefield, to influence enemy surrender -- or maybe to cause US Citizens to comply with their own government? Who knows? The scientists are not allowed to discuss the details but one admits that "American technology needs to be tested on Americans -- and American Citizens have already been damaged by the testing" of what some researchers call "Project Blue Beam." This technology was being tested at the Army base at Fort Huachuca, Arizona in the 1990s at the time of this interview.
Originally posted by Conspirus
reply to post by autowrench
So, let us get this straight. We human beings here on Earth are the only life is this great big universe, where even God said there are many mansions.
God wasn’t talkin about the universe, he was talkin about heaven when he brought up the mansions. “In my fathers house are many mansions.”
Where do you get such ideas? The universe is teeming with life, and many of them look human.
Um yes, good job. Our language is composed largely of latin, so are our ancestor languages for english…haha! Where are you going with this?
The Origin and History of the English Language
The history of the language can be traced back to the arrival of three Germanic tribes to the British Isles during the 5th Century AD. Angles, Saxons and Jutes crossed the North Sea from what is the present day Denmark and northern Germany. The inhabitants of Britain previously spoke a Celtic language. This was quickly displaced. Most of the Celtic speakers were pushed into Wales, Cornwall and Scotland. One group migrated to the Brittany Coast of France where their descendants still speak the Celtic Language of Breton today. The Angles were named from Engle, their land of origin. Their language was called Englisc from which the word, English derives. An Anglo-Saxon inscription dated between 450 and 480AD is the oldest sample of the English language.
John 17:16 Jesus uses the same word to talk about believers “They are not of this world, just as I am not of this world.” Of this world pertaining to the world system.
Yeah, you should research those who weren’t agreeing that he was divine, those involved in the secret society Essenes and those from the Sadducees and Pharisees groups. There’s more to it than them just being annoying to Jesus.
Originally posted by yes4141
Of course, I have no doubt that the majority of translators of texts do it to a very high standard and ability. The "panel of scholars" presumably alludes to the King James version of which the politicals permeate every stage of it's creation.
I certainly wasn't implying that those who translate these works aren't extremely good at what they do, nor do I think that such a job was done flippantly. I'm effectively trying to say that with several stages of translation comes an inevitable amount of "chinese whispers". Through several stages of imperfect individual word translations the original meaning can be distorted. Of course this doesn't take in the actual compilation process of the bible from Emperor Constantine which could potentially have had significant impact on the words of the bible we read today.
I'll try and find the source for that, I read it last year but can't remember where right now.
Originally posted by WannabeMartian
That said, the point I was trying to make with the comment you quoted is that faith is static while ideas are dynamic. Faith cannot evolve, while ideas cannot stop evolving. Therefore a religious person cannot really have an "open mind", if the term is used correctly.