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Many people have claimed to speak the word of God. I imagine, not all of those people were being entirely honest.
Man chose what went into the Bible, there are many versions, and many have changed over the years.
The Bible is man's creation, not Gods.
And the Bible has nothing in it that proves or disproves alien life.
So not believing Christ isnt the Messiah makes you a Demon? Christian Logic perseveres again
So, let us get this straight. We human beings here on Earth are the only life is this great big universe, where even God said there are many mansions.
Where do you get such ideas? The universe is teeming with life, and many of them look human.
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by neobludragon
If they are "fairy tales" then why would the heads of state worship Lucifer? after all the government obviously know what's going on since they control everything. Take ex-president bush and the satanic secret society of "skull & bones" for example... Do you really think they do that stuff just for fun?
I am not a religious type ether, I'm just a Christian that believes the bible to be the word of God and Jesus as the savior of man kind.edit on 8-11-2011 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given)
And now you claim to know heads of State too?
Do you have a direct line to Jesus also?
For someone who says they have truth to share, you sure tell a lot of lies. But, I guess that is OK, read this:
Lying for God
And we all know of GWB and the S&B club. Rich Elites and money whores. And if you really studied, I believe their deity is Molech, the Owl God.
Lucifer is a Latin word.
Do a little research, will you?
Assumptions? Blind faith?? Isn't that what you are doing by believing in the words of man?
Make no mistake...the Bible was written by men, and voted on, edited on, and so on, and so on. Aliens...Demons...doesn't matter what you call them. Angels are demons, it just depends on which end you are on.
If you are righteous and an angel comes to kill all the "evil" people in the world, wouldn't the "evil" people see the "angels" as demons? Or would they look beautiful and glorious to them too?
I've seen him post this a lot to defend his religious views.
Oh, and don't bring up evolution, it's a sore subject for him.
Don't be fooled! This man, or woman, is religious.
I rest my case.
Sorry to preach, Rev,
But extra-terrestrial means "not belonging to this earth" and aliens do not, because they are alien, so that makes them ETs. They could be EDs as well.
Also, never trust official government statements.
What about the many pilots and astronauts who claim to have encountered aliens?
It is a lie.
First- You are implying that you are enlightened by this statement-
Post by Rev.Gen
I do not take them personally as you are still in spiritual darkness.
1. By making this statement, you are implying that the other person is in darkness and you are in the light.
2. You claim to be "on the right path". Implying that others are not.
The amount of "hatred" that has come your way is in no way directed at you being a Christian.
It is because of your self righteous, arrogant attitude towards other people and their beliefs and opinions. And I would not use the word "hatred" as you did. I would use something like "frustration or irritation".
If my world view is wrong, nothing happens when I die, but if your world view is wrong you burn for eternity in ever lasting torment.
WOW. And you talk about hatred coming your way? You seem to be dishing it out, no wonder it would comeback to you. It's called KARMA. Or perhaps "GOD'S WILL if you like. Is this a comforting statement to you? It must be because you sure do use it a lot.
I can tell you one thing, if God does exist, I don't think he would be very proud of you.
Your actions and words do not reflect being on the right path.
Nor does it reflect Christianity and the principles Jesus would like people to live by.
Just admit that you don't know. Maybe then, you will start finding answers when you are not blinded by your own ego and your perception of how things should be. You so arrogant!
You have no more proof of God than others do of ET life. You claim to know God, but others have claimed to have encountered ET life but yet you do not believe them.
Why do you expect people to believe you, if you can not show them the same courtesy? Do you feel entitled just because you are a "Christian"?
No, no, you have it all backwards. Aliens come from other planets because there are a nearly infinite number of planets, some likely to be as suitable to sustain life as earth, while extra dimensions are purely theoretical and hold absolutely no sway.
And lastly, the "spiritual plane" is a place based in fantasy written thousands of years ago, rewritten, edited, and mistranslated by numerous generations of kings, monks, popes, bishops, and countless types of other people, based upon oral tradition that we don't even know today. Other planets that could sustain like come from tangible things, like telescopes and mathematical equations.
There is # tons of evidence pointing to things that are not of this earth. For instance, you claim alien implants to be from creatures of the 4th dimensions, but MD Lier, who has removed many of these implants, had the the materials tested by 2 universities, both of which confirmed that the material is made of a substance so rare that meteorites containing the material have only been recorded hitting the earth once or twice. These materials come from out space, not an extra dimension.
After all this time we have not even found one intelligent life form, discovered one planet that can support life,
- Ignorance, at.it's.best!
There are various articles on this subject!
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by thegagefather
And why do you have a illuminati symbol in your avatar if you believe in a totally naturalist world view? You realize they worship Lucifer right...?
Personally I believe they are connected.edit on 9-11-2011 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given
Reply by thegagefather:
The Illuminati don't exist, but I'd like you to prove to me they worship Lucifer anyways.
Please refer me to the Skull and Bones wiki page.
If by troll, you mean someone who likes to make people back up what they say with fact instead of nonsensical opinion based upon gut feeling which they feel makes them more insightful to the truth than everyone else, sure.
Since you're so dead-set on the idea that "E.D.s" are fallen angels...
Why do you believe they are fallen angels?
You seem to really be banking on the idea that there are angels.
Did you know that in the Torah the word which translates to "angel" in the bible is literally the word "messanger?"
I'm willing to bet you didn't, even with all your hours of research.
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by Romekje
All I know is the KJV is the best English translation we have and was translated by some of the best theologians in recent history.
Theologians.. not linguists..
Post by Revelation GenerationI haven't even mentioned Hell, the bible or religion unless someone else brought it up or started claiming evolution is the truth.
Reply by TrippleHelixYes you did.
(So someone claiming evolution as truth is enough to assume they will burn in (wherever) for eternity?
Naw, the origin of man is a theological trivialty, as Martin Luther put the many arguments the church split up for. John 3:16 is known by everyone and that’s basically the only thing you have to be sure about, Romans 10:19 expounds on that some more.
[RevelationGen.: I don't know what you mean by "I am a bad example of a Christian"
TrippleHelix: You know exactly what I mean. Go back and read every single post of yours and tell me if they are "Christian like".
So what’s “christian like” in your definition?
You claim to know all, and know the holy spirit, but everything that spews out of your mouth indicates everything but that. Everything that you do not understand or that is not human must be "demonic" or Evil. Hence your word- "Eviloution" I do not need to re-quote everything.
Actually if I were him I’d be cussin yall out by now, I mean seriously. OK look…we’ve got a guy who’s convinced he’s figured out the truth and he’s trying to share it with you BECAUSE in HIS religion you are really gonna be damned to hell forever if you don’t wake up soon cuz there’s no time left. Regardless of how your views disagree, instead of pointing out personal flaws in him that you and I have too why don’t you help something come to a conclusion, or do some research yourself.
You are so self-righteous! Everyone is wrong and you are right!
Ok how exactly is he being self-righteous? It might be getting a lil harder for him to keep his cool after 20 pages or so of 5 on 1, and that’s been since page 1, but besides that, are you not being arrogant yourself by claiming that he is self-righteous?
Rev.Gen: I can tell you and a few others are frustrated, that's only natural when something doesn't make sense to you. If you want me to help you understand why things are the way they are then you can always send me a private message and if you have genuine questions I will be happy to respond.
TripleHelix: Screw you. Seriously. I think I understand just fine for now.
THAT's actually more of an ignorant comment. Anyway, you claim you don’t have all the answers but you’re kinda saying that you do because you so happen to just “like” how you perceive the world so you hafto ridicule this guy and tear him down.
I'm no where near knowing everything (unlike you). I do not have all the answers, I probably won't even have them all by the time I die. I really don't mind. It keeps life interesting.
Then why are you railing on the dude, dudette? Why get involved in this manner hmm?
I will be open to every single theory out there until one day that little voice inside me says 'that's it'…
Great! So how are you being open in this scenario? I love playing the devil’s advocate, as you can see
…That is truth.
Ok Wow what a flimsy view of truth. So….a little voice that tells a random dude “that’s it!” when he’s contemplating on killing a guy is speaking truth to him eh? Hrrmmm….what a chaotic world that would be.
And I will find it on my own, with my own mind. Not what a major religious group tells me to think, feel and believe.
I only honestly like THIS statement of yours outta this whole post and I couldn’t agree with ya more here. Now for help for the OP he’s stated he’s not part of a religious group….just cuz his beliefs are similar to a certain religion does not mean he religiously follows whatever those groups do - just like one can be a true Christian yet never go to church or take communion.
Honestly, I would rather burn in hell than be like you.
Whether you are or aren’t part of a religion that is an unnecessary comment from you to him. Period. That statement alone is worse than anything he’s said whether you agree or not, because you thought it up to purposely hurt the dude.
And just as a side note-
For a while- I have been thinking about the bible and how some of it might actually be true.
But people like you who use it for your own benefit and twist it, failing to think further than your nose about it's text, just put's me off religion all together.
Well done- I wonder how many other people you 'unknowingly' turned away from Christ before they even got the chance to try and figure it out for themselves.
If I were you, in future I would choose my words and action very carefully.
Its already been said, by others with better grammer then me.. but you seem to be on my mental level so ill go ahead and repeat it..
The only one implying anything and assuming crap is you.. you are a bad example of a christian, and a bad example of anything for that matter other then an egotistical retard.
And you still havent answered my question and totally avoided it? Why is that? Cant prove it wrong? Cant make it fit in your theory? Seriously you are whacked.. You need professional help, and i'd be happy to refer you to a therapist if I knew any reputable ones.
by Rev.Gen: My proof is from the 90% or so abduction reports that are malevolent.
And that thing didn't come out the ground with a label on it saying it was "40,000" years old did it?
tbonedude: Nope, carbon dating prooves it is though.
Your bible didnt come out of the ground with a label on it saying it was "truth" did it?
If I may interject here with a couple of my own theories:
A.) RevelationGeneration is exactly who he said he is and these are his beliefs, which are absolutely unshakable in his mind and regardless of what anyone has to say in contrast, he will NEVER change his mind.
B.) RevelationGeneration is here simply to screw with you people by providing you with massively flawed ideas then reinforcing his stance on them using scripture and his divine inspiration with a dash a arrogance for flavor.
In either case, I'd say you've all been "had" long enough don't you???
After all, if it's "A" then you're gonna lose because "Faith" is the ultimate self gratifying and self reinforcing concept that mankind has ever had. Even by his own admission, the more anyone tries to counter his "Faith" the more justified that "Faith" becomes as a result.
If it's "B", well, then he's just an A-hole who's wasting your time.
But then again, this is just me talking here and I could be wrong....
BTW Helix, I applaud your effort girl, but you'll never get through to Rev. He either won't or can't allow for a change in his thinking. Plus, I think he slipped the Satan=Female God=Male thing in there just to piss you off a little so his little experiment here would continue.
Somthing from another dimension would easily beable to pull this off based on what exactly?
also... why are you basing what an alien could do on our relativley new understanding on physics? (im comparrison to a race possibly millions of years old)
Take a long hard look at why you believe you have a soul, why there is a god etc. and if you are 100% honest with yourself you'll realize that the only reason you believe is that you were told to in one way or another. I know this may be uncomfortable, but how can you stop asking these all-important questions?
Read over some of RevelationGeneration's threads and posts and you will clearly see why. A mind is like a parachute, it only works when open, and it is wise to have ideas instead of beliefs. Beliefs, like the ones held dear by RevelationGeneration, are so set into stone you could not chip it out. Completely static in nature. Ideas are dynamic, always moving forward.