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shall non-religion people have right to vote?

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posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 12:48 PM
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This is war between islam and christian, Americans are in danger. There is either enemy or friend.
Who will you vote for? who has the right to vote? If you dont choose to stand with us, you have no right to vote as American citizen.




posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 12:50 PM
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who has the right to vote? If you dont choose to stand with us, you have no right to vote as American citizen.


I think your going to get flamed hard for that statement. Just becasue we live here and were born here doesnt mean we have to like and agree with what our goverment is doing. Saying that we have no right to vote because we dont agree is total BS



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by proxxx
who has the right to vote? If you dont choose to stand with us, you have no right to vote as American citizen.


Saying the citizens have to pass some sort of test in order to vote is patently unamerican. please leave the country, if you can't play along with our constituition, why are you even here in the first place?



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by proxxx
This is war between islam and christian, Americans are in danger. There is either enemy or friend.
Who will you vote for? who has the right to vote? If you dont choose to stand with us, you have no right to vote as American citizen.


.... are you honestly saying that I should not have the right to vote becasue I happen to practice and believe in an eclectic pagan religion?

Wraith



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 12:58 PM
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proxxx...you had very well better be kidding me? That is the most unconstitutional statement I think I have ever read on this board. I am not a Christian and for you to tell me that my opinion should not matter is utterly disrespectful, not only to me, but to our founding fathers and what this nation was founded on. What we need in this country is less people like you, and more people that will defend the Constitution...not Christianity. I see no reason to go further with this, as you should sit back and think about what you just said, read a history book or two, reflect on your own beliefs, and then come back here with a valid opinion.

PS- Assuming you support Bush, which I pretty much figure you do by a statement like that...even your own leader has said "this is not a war against Islam".

You seriously need to read your Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc. and learn something more than what you were taught in the fundamentalist sunday school that you attended.

PS- Since I know this thread is a wind-up, do you even realize that most of the founders were Deists, and not Christians?

[edit on 2-9-2004 by Jazzerman]



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 01:00 PM
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As a republican I can say any American citizen who are authorized to vote, those over 18 and are non fellons, should be able to vote regardless if they are religious or not. we are not a theocracy, we are a republic.



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 01:05 PM
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Pretty much what Jazzerman said...

The founding fathers would be rolling over in their graves to hear this initial post....



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 01:10 PM
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I hit reply to respond with all the reasons why this is just wrong, and I'm speechless. Don't even know where to start. Someone needs to revisit the principles of government taught in 4th grade textbooks and fields trips to Philadelphia and Plymouth Rock.

Voting has nothing to do with religion, and neither should our government (although the GOP disagrees). I'm assuming you're all for Bush, and made that statement because uber-religious people tend to be with the GOP for this election, and not allowing non-religious people to vote would mean less votes for the opponent. That's so very Bush of you


This war is not an Islamic/Christian one. The war Bush says he's fighting is a Extremist/Terrorist one vs the US and freedom. Honey, we already lost freedom with the Patriot Act, we are already fearful, and we're losing the war in Iraq over money and profit, too. The people of the Islamic world aren't the evil here.

Honestly, I'm more afraid of Christians than I am of Muslims. How come all of the most hateful and violent people I've ever known personally have all been Christians? How come the party that wants to strip away more rights from me has alligned itself so strongly with the Christian right? THAT is scary - not the woman who sits next to me in class with a headscarf who excuses herself to pray quietly, but the woman who tells me I'm going to hell because I don't have "time for Jesus" and threatens to key cars in the parking lot with Kerry stickers.

[edit on 2-9-2004 by RedBalloon]



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 01:12 PM
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What an utterly rediculous concept. What has happened to America to produce these thoughts? Besides these two short statements, I don't know what else to say.



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by RedBalloon
Honestly, I'm more afraid of Christians than I am of Muslims. How come all of the most hateful and violent people I've ever known personally have all been Christians? How come the party that wants to strip away more rights from me has alligned itself so strongly with the Christian right? THAT is scary - not the woman who sits next to me in class with a headscarf who excuses herself to pray quietly, but the woman who tells me I'm going to hell because I don't have "time for Jesus" and threatens to key cars in the parking lot with Kerry stickers.


Amen



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 01:20 PM
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I think somebody's just trying to stir up some ____.

It's not a war between Christians and Muslims. It's a war between terrorists and everybody else.

As for the founding fathers, they'd be spinning to see a lot of what's going on nowadays, including women and blacks holding political offices and choosing their own destinies.



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by jrsdls
As a republican I can say any American citizen who are authorized to vote, those over 18 and are non fellons, should be able to vote regardless if they are religious or not. we are not a theocracy, we are a republic.


Wow, something we agree on.

What is teh world comming to?

Wraith



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 02:09 PM
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you are right, founding father will roll over in the grave if they know the dangerous situation. they will wake up and change the law.
The law shall be changed, voting for a weak candidate is just to help the enemy, and if you help enemy, then you are traitor. Traitor shall be stopped.
America is born because of god, American are born for god. We will win to the end, God is helping us!



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 02:15 PM
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proxxx...if you are not going to contribute anything more than your Christian fundamentalist rantings to this board then I suggest you leave. If this is how you start out on this baord then I really can't see you contributing much in the future. Either grow up, or get out!



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by proxxx
you are right, founding father will roll over in the grave if they know the dangerous situation. they will wake up and change the law.
The law shall be changed, voting for a weak candidate is just to help the enemy, and if you help enemy, then you are traitor. Traitor shall be stopped.
America is born because of god, American are born for god. We will win to the end, God is helping us!


Which god? Who's god?

Regan, Rummy, Bush Sr. all worked with, financed, and supported Al Quieda... does that mean that they are all traitors?

You didnt answer the question. Are you saying that I should not have the right to vote because I do not believe in Jesus' divinity?

wraith



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 02:16 PM
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i dont think religion has anything to do with voting...



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 02:17 PM
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in the bible god dissaproves with isreals alliances / treaties with other powers. We nation build as a national policy and we started the UN.

god is definitly not on americas side...

this nation was founded on the constitution, but considering the leader you follow its no wonder u tend to overlook that.



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 02:22 PM
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wow, speachless.....scary.
I wonder if humanity will "evolve" from the posion that is called religion?



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 02:27 PM
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Why would ones religion have to do with voting? America was founded for religious freedoms, and if only "those who stand with us" vote then we'll have the same politicians over and over.

So pretty much what Jazzerman said was correct.



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 02:35 PM
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American melting pot and all that jazz. Is it coming back to you yet?

Actually my people (American Indian) were here first so all of you get the hell off of my yard!



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