Series of Dreams Relating to Washington State, page 2
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reply posted on 9-11-2011 @ 06:27 AM by JustMike
reply to post by collietta


Very interesting. Don't worry about the relative heights of the space needle. In dreams, sizes are sometimes more strongly related to the importance of the objects than their actual, physical dimensions. So, the space needle's real size was possibly different because the thing itself was only important to identify your general location. Other people told you what it was, and this is secondary reinforcement to confirm where you were.

I'm interested about the blackberries. In my personal experience they are pretty tenacious and hardy plants and can grow wherever opportunity allows even if soil conditions are not ideal, so the fact that people were picking them is more significant (to me) than exactly where they were. So, a question: at what time of year are they ripe enough to pick? Around September?

Many thanks,

Mike


reply posted on 9-11-2011 @ 11:51 AM by MoparDanno
Originally posted by westcoast
reply to
post by onthelookout



OH....@Mopardanno. You should take a look at my short story about the Mt. Saint helens eruption "The day my world shook." It's in my tagline. I was nine years old too when I experienced it!!!


Great story WC! I appended my own experience on that day to your story, as mine was no where near as dramatic or harrowing as yours, but from a totally different perspective

Thank you for sharing. I really enjoy your threads, and love kibbitzing about this stuff

Danno



reply posted on 9-11-2011 @ 12:12 PM by MoparDanno
Originally posted by JustMike
reply to
post by MoparDanno



True, though, my first impression was of a rift/gap opening in the banks and the water escaping that way, but it's all conjecture as I don't really know if that would happen. I doubt anyone does, really. But if it let go as you say, that would also be quite -- errrm -- quite dramatic, shall we say.

Mike



Well from what I have learned and studied, the way the faultlines run, and the general topogrophy of the area, I really don't see this as being even a potential possibility. Even it letting go and flooding N or S is very unlikely, as the lakes around here tend to be in valleys and such, so they are the absolute low point of the area. It would take a VERY large shift for that to change in a way that would allow the waters to escape in any meaninfull manner.

However, as I was typing the above paragraph, I did think of one way to interpret OTL's dream... Mount Rainier, which Westcoast has said many times, is one of the most dangerous volcanoes in North America. Not because of its eruptive power, which is figured to be considerable as it shares the same characteristics as Mt St Helens, but because of all of the water that is locked on the mountains glaciers. I dont think Bellevue proper is in any danger from Mt Rainier, but Renton certainly is. Renton is just south of Bellevue, on I-405, and lays at the outlet of the Cedar river, which has its origins from the glaciers of Mt Rainier. If the flows of the Cowlitz and Toutle river because of Mt St Helens are any indication, then Cities like Renton, Tacoma and even South Seattle are in for it. Not to mention the other larger towns on the way to the outlets of the rivers, like Puyallup.

Just my take on it

Danno


reply posted on 9-11-2011 @ 01:17 PM by JustMike
reply to post by MoparDanno


Great reply, Danno. And again, I'm glad to learn from your knowledge of the area.

So... A possible interpretation of a lahar, then. That's a valid point and yes, the mapping for lahar paths for the area would fit in. As you say, that would be more likely than a pretty major uplift.

Thank you for that perspective.

Mike


reply posted on 9-11-2011 @ 01:45 PM by collietta
reply to post by JustMike



Thank you for your comments. My family picks the neighborhood berries around the end of August, early September.
This last Summer, part of me was wondering if there would be a cool day, followed by an earthquake.
edit on 9-11-2011 by collietta because: grammar



reply posted on 9-11-2011 @ 02:00 PM by MoparDanno
reply to post by JustMike



Mike,

Here is a link from the Puget Sound Seismic Network about the hazards of Rainier lahars

vulcan.wr.usgs.gov...

This is a good synopsis of what we were just discussing.

EDIT: Here is a link to the complete USGS hazards report for Mt Rainier if you are interested

pubs.usgs.gov...

Danno

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