The invisible advanced ancient society., page 2

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by ancientthunder

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I would say the first mistake is assuming that to be advanced you have to be similar to us, what with plastics and massive footprints. That is only advanced in the most narrow of ways, where you measure your "advancement" in degrees of technological accomplishment without regard to ecological impact. We only have the technology that we are wanted to have. The technology that creates more customers, and revs the economic accelerators. True progress...who knows if that ever even existed.

It is VERY presumptuous to gauge possible achievement and advancement by our own myopic terms.

I believe this as well. There is still man, advanced men like us living in the jungles of the world that have no knowledge of our material world. Are they less advanced?

If no, I agree but I would go further to say that they are more advanced. Their ways of living is in equilibrium. They live naturally without disease and excess with abundant health. They would leave no trace for most of their tools, homes, and whatever were 100% biodegradable. Its pretty amazing what we can do know with technology today but how does it really advance the human race?

One big ice age in north america and there will be nothing recognizable left as the cities and country will be pulverized to dust and soil. again........

Originally posted by Ookie
reply to post by SilverStarGazer

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There are a few reasons why we don't find artifacts. First, should the Sumerian tale be true, the gods took their technology with them when they left and we are merely left behind mining tools. There is nothing to find.

There exists no "Sumerian tale" about any gods leaving anywhere, much less with all their toys (which toys are also, BTW, curiously absent from every "Sumerian tale.")

Harte

reply to post by mysterioustranger

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I agree with several of the above thoughts:

Youre ASSUMING they needed vehicles to move around.

And you are ASSUMING they needed clothing. (Remember...animals DO NOT need clothing. Maybe they were so advanced as to be unclothed forms moving thru dimensional travel without apparent vehicles...like angel were supposed to).

So why would they, if they were so advanced, need mud-brick ziggurats, blocks stacked into pyramids, or crude stone astronomical calendars, ala Stonehenge?

Face it those are the stepping stones of early Human civilizations, not evidence of extraterrestrial visitors.

reply to post by Blackmarketeer

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Well, that was my point. Why assume they wore clothes, or needed vehicles? (I implied nothing about "alien" or "extra-terrestrial" in nature. Tho I do have my opinions on that, but another subject altogether).

I guess we all speak in terms and of the society we know. I wish some would think out of the box. Maybe they didnt need either? Perhaps they wore tons of layers of clothing. Maybe they too had combustion engines. But that is of this world and realm of knowledge.

I propose that maybe they didnt have either one, and we dont know if they even NEEDED vehicles and clothes. Look how many ancient societies didnt even have the wheel. Not to say they couldnt have flown around or manipulated gravitiy some way moving around without vehiclular travel and naked as a jaybird.

So...what clothes and vehicles? Mute point of supposition. My opinion.

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
reply to post by mysterioustranger

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I agree with several of the above thoughts:

Youre ASSUMING they needed vehicles to move around.

And you are ASSUMING they needed clothing. (Remember...animals DO NOT need clothing. Maybe they were so advanced as to be unclothed forms moving thru dimensional travel without apparent vehicles...like angel were supposed to).

So why would they, if they were so advanced, need mud-brick ziggurats, blocks stacked into pyramids, or crude stone astronomical calendars, ala Stonehenge?

Face it those are the stepping stones of early Human civilizations, not evidence of extraterrestrial visitors.

Hmm...

...i wonder where the "stepping stones" are that lead up to the Great Pyramid. It is the grandest of them all, and the first. They all went downhill from there. I guess you can step down as well as up, huh?

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

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i wonder where the "stepping stones" are that lead up to the Great Pyramid. It is the grandest of them all, and the first.

It wasn't the first - mastabas came first, the Pyramid of Djoser being the most famous of those, then the bent pyramid, a failed earlier attempt at a true pyramid, finally you get to the true pyramids of Giza - plenty of precedents to that type of construction. (Wikipedia has the basic timeline

They all went downhill from there. I guess you can step down as well as up, huh?

Egypt had cycles of ups and downs, every ancient civilization did. There were periods when Egypt wasn't even ruled by it's own native people (happened in Sumer, too). Even Rome became a hollow shell of it's former self. You can argue that even America has stepped down from it's former glory. Should we assume an "invisible advanced society" built the Hoover dam if we, as a nation, can no longer muster the resources to do so again?

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I think there's a theme running through this thread that doesn't make a whole lot of sense - ignoring all the detritus of ancient cultures that build magnificent structures - such left-behinds as worker villages, textiles, stone and copper tools, bas-reliefs and painted walls depicting themselves using these tools to build monuments, even themselves in graves and tombs.

There's been zero evidence found of a high-tech ancient civilization, such a lack of evidence indicates they didn't exist, not that they must have been invisible.

reply to post by Blackmarketeer

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good points you have put forth, its not the first time I have had this type of reply.Before I say what I want to say, I will let you know one thing that you have clearly missed, and it is because you assume. I Love ancient societies, I find them facinating. Everything about them captivates me in a very special way. I wont go in to proving this to you but that is the way it is form me. People who know me, if you asked them they would reply that they dont know anybody else that is intrigued by them as much as me. On the other hand, my post was to point to the fact that so called ancient society might not have had any amazing technology in their creations and if so what does that mean. How do we feel about that? is the general idea. I certainly dont know, I feel they certainly had a helping hand and when we recognise that, we will soon be able to know where that helping hand is from.

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