Mass. School district to close tuesday for ISLAMIC holiday?!, page 3
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reply posted on 7-11-2011 @ 01:02 PM by navy_vet_stg3
I'm 100% against Islam. I think it's a death cult.

That being said, I'm all for this. It's setting a precedent at this point. All the arguments that are being used to support this will be used for Christians and Jews to mandate a day off as well. If the Muslims get a sanctioned religious holiday, then it will only be fair to change "winter break" back to "Christmas break". If schools can decide that Muslims get a religious day off, and can pray in schools on Fridays, then other religions should get the same.

The 1st Amendment is clear. It says "CONGRESS shall pass no law" (key word...CONGRESS). That doesn't mean that if a Christian kid wants to say a Christian prayer at a school graduation that they should be barred from doing so. They should have that right. Same goes for the Muslim. If there is a Muslim valedictorian, then that person has earned the right to speak, and say what they believe were guiding forces in their success. It's "freedom of religion", not "freedom from religion".

[sarcasm] Besides, Islam is a great religion if you're a man. You get to rape, and then have the rape victim stoned to death for being raped. You get to beat your wife and kids. You get to have multiple wives like the Mormons, and at the end of the day, you can even eat bacon as long as you're lying to an infidel and eating that bacon to get close to them so you can kill them. It's a wonderful religion, isn't it? I think it should be promoted heavily by people! [/sarcasm]


reply posted on 7-11-2011 @ 01:05 PM by phishyblankwaters
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The simple solution would be if you are this unhappy about the decision of the school district to do this, yank your kids out and put them in private school!


I bet you a thousand theoretical internet dollars that the OP doesn't have kids in that district, and probably doesn't live anywhere near that district. I'd also put a cool 10$ down saying the OP doesn't have kids, and doesn't even live in the state that this decision was made in.

My money is on the fact that the OP was sent this article via his anti-muslim mailing list, as many others are, and is merely railing against people being afforded the same freedoms and privileges he seems to feel entitled to.

What happened to separation of church and state? there never was a separation, and there was never intended to be a separation. what you do have is a set of rules and principles that state the government shall not favor one religion over another, and will not interfere with religious practices.

If kids get christian holidays off, and jewish holidays off, then it's only in keeping with the founding documents of America that muslim holidays be recognized.

It's either inclusive, or nothing. Either everyone is included equally, or remove all religious holidays from federal holiday status.

It doesn't matter that this was done logically and democratically. It doesn't matter that this falls completely in line with the intentions of the "separation of church and state" issue.

This has everything to do with Muslims.

The rest of us are willing to admit that bias, now I challenge the OP to be as honest.



reply posted on 7-11-2011 @ 01:09 PM by tothetenthpower
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Sometimes we have to be the better country to make things change.

A tit for tat policy would only make things work. Inclusion is the only peace. At the risk of having this turn into a my opinion vs your opinion, I know a lot of muslims, both domestically in the US and Canada, as well as overseas in countries like Iran, egypt and the UAE, they are wonderful people.

They don't wish to live under the rule of tyrants or dictators any more than you do. And mostly, the ones that do, feel that way because of decades of brain washing by religious extremists ( much like the WBC for example) or they've never been exposed to actual freedom.

~Keeper


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



reply posted on 7-11-2011 @ 01:31 PM by Praetorius
reply to post by antar

Eh...
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
- Article 11, Treaty of Tripoli

The founders wouldn't have an issue with this. Political governments treating some citizens a certain way doesn't have much to do with US citizens having equal rights with their own faiths, or the states/cities working with those citizens as deemed appropriate.
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