YU55 Closer Than JPL Indicates?

I dont understand a lick of this. but my common sense tells me that earth is in trouble. Am I accurate in this prediction

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by mockrock

 

The Orbital Diagram is a very crude tool. As the disclaimer states:

The applet was implemented using 2-body methods, and hence should not be used for determining accurate long-term trajectories (over several years or decades) or planetary encounter circumstances.

The close approach data for 2010 XC15 shows a nominal close approach of 0.002 AU and a minimum of 0.001 AU. Since it wasn't discovered until 2005 the actual close approach distance cannot be known with certainty.
ssd.jpl.nasa.gov...

edit on 11/7/2011 by Phage because: (no reason given)

You mean wasnt PUBLICLY discovered....

But thats all striclty speculation of course

reply to post by karen61057


Good point. However, playing devils advocate here, what does the population/media do to people who attempt to warn the public or leak information? We call them crazy, spys, etc.

Originally posted by ColAngus
reply to post by mockrock

 

Yes. A very very very very very very very good one at that. Obviously.

Lol good point.. nobody would suspect a bad Bruce Willis impersonator..

Oh no! Bruce Willis .. Armageddon hero... another sign! lol

reply to post by Vasa Croe


Thanks for the link. Here's some of the info...

Soldiers “End Of The World” Email Sends US Into Panic

An interesting Federal Security Services (FSB) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that the United States was thrown into a “panic” last week after one of its soldiers emailed his mother warning her to “prepare for the end of the world.”

According to this report, American Army Specialist William Millay [photo 2nd right], a 22-year-old military policeman from Owensboro, Kentucky, stationed at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Alaska had “growing concerns” over the massive military buildup by the US Northern Command (NORTHCOM) of troops and equipment being secreted through his base from Afghanistan, Japan and South Korea headed towards “staging areas” throughout America.

US military, intelligence and political “flash traffic” intercepted by the FSB relating to this event show, according to this report, that Specialist Millay believed that the redeployment of these tens of thousands of US troops to the American Homeland was “somehow” related to the 9 November nationwide testing of the United States Emergency Alert System (EAS) that is occurring “coincidentally” with a vast number of disaster drills and exercises being planned for the same time period.

In a series of emails and phone calls to his mother, and other family members living in Kentucky, this report continues, Specialist Millay relayed his concerns and when asked by them of what preparations they should make he replied, “Prepare for the end of the world.”

Source: www.eutimes.net...

As someone who does not rattle easily, there's one aspect to this story that has me worried. His character. By all reports he's a good kid, well liked, loves his country and seems "normal." His character does not jive with his behavior, meaning he really saw something that worried him. Likely, since he's a low E-class MP, he simply didn't understand what he was seeing, but... there is a huge BUT here. He could be on to something.

Maybe these "fixed" JPL calculations do mean something, and the US knows it. And is preparing. See what the elites are up to, check their schedules.

Originally posted by Jason88
reply to post by Vasa Croe

 

Thanks for the link. Here's some of the info...

Soldiers “End Of The World” Email Sends US Into Panic

An interesting Federal Security Services (FSB) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that the United States was thrown into a “panic” last week after one of its soldiers emailed his mother warning her to “prepare for the end of the world.”

According to this report, American Army Specialist William Millay [photo 2nd right], a 22-year-old military policeman from Owensboro, Kentucky, stationed at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Alaska had “growing concerns” over the massive military buildup by the US Northern Command (NORTHCOM) of troops and equipment being secreted through his base from Afghanistan, Japan and South Korea headed towards “staging areas” throughout America.

US military, intelligence and political “flash traffic” intercepted by the FSB relating to this event show, according to this report, that Specialist Millay believed that the redeployment of these tens of thousands of US troops to the American Homeland was “somehow” related to the 9 November nationwide testing of the United States Emergency Alert System (EAS) that is occurring “coincidentally” with a vast number of disaster drills and exercises being planned for the same time period.

In a series of emails and phone calls to his mother, and other family members living in Kentucky, this report continues, Specialist Millay relayed his concerns and when asked by them of what preparations they should make he replied, “Prepare for the end of the world.”

Source: www.eutimes.net...

As someone who does not rattle easily, there's one aspect to this story that has me worried. His character. By all reports he's a good kid, well liked, loves his country and seems "normal." His character does not jive with his behavior, meaning he really saw something that worried him. Likely, since he's a low E-class MP, he simply didn't understand what he was seeing, but... there is a huge BUT here. He could be on to something.

Maybe these "fixed" JPL calculations do mean something, and the US knows it. And is preparing. See what the elites are up to, check their schedules.

And from the Armytime.com

www.armytimes.com...

Originally posted by Jason88
reply to post by Vasa Croe

 

Thanks for the link. Here's some of the info...

Soldiers “End Of The World” Email Sends US Into Panic

An interesting Federal Security Services (FSB) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that the United States was thrown into a “panic” last week after one of its soldiers emailed his mother warning her to “prepare for the end of the world.”

According to this report, American Army Specialist William Millay [photo 2nd right], a 22-year-old military policeman from Owensboro, Kentucky, stationed at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Alaska had “growing concerns” over the massive military buildup by the US Northern Command (NORTHCOM) of troops and equipment being secreted through his base from Afghanistan, Japan and South Korea headed towards “staging areas” throughout America.

US military, intelligence and political “flash traffic” intercepted by the FSB relating to this event show, according to this report, that Specialist Millay believed that the redeployment of these tens of thousands of US troops to the American Homeland was “somehow” related to the 9 November nationwide testing of the United States Emergency Alert System (EAS) that is occurring “coincidentally” with a vast number of disaster drills and exercises being planned for the same time period.

In a series of emails and phone calls to his mother, and other family members living in Kentucky, this report continues, Specialist Millay relayed his concerns and when asked by them of what preparations they should make he replied, “Prepare for the end of the world.”

Source: www.eutimes.net...

As someone who does not rattle easily, there's one aspect to this story that has me worried. His character. By all reports he's a good kid, well liked, loves his country and seems "normal." His character does not jive with his behavior, meaning he really saw something that worried him. Likely, since he's a low E-class MP, he simply didn't understand what he was seeing, but... there is a huge BUT here. He could be on to something.

Maybe these "fixed" JPL calculations do mean something, and the US knows it. And is preparing. See what the elites are up to, check their schedules.

The CEO's of all the APEC countries will be jetting off, including many world leaders.. Apparently for the Hawaii Apec conference.. But what if this is the cover to scuttle to the bunkers..?

Originally posted by mockrock
The CEO's of all the APEC countries will be jetting off, including many world leaders.. Apparently for the Hawaii Apec conference.. But what if this is the cover to scuttle to the bunkers..?

Where did you get this information?

Originally posted by mockrock

Originally posted by ColAngus
reply to post by mockrock

 

Yes. A very very very very very very very good one at that. Obviously.

Lol good point.. nobody would suspect a bad Bruce Willis impersonator..

Oh no! Bruce Willis .. Armageddon hero... another sign! lol

Actually that is massively ironic ! Soldier who enjoys impersonating Bruce Willis tries to save the world from Armageddon !

Anyone catch last nights episode of The Simpsons? I haven't watched that show in over 4+ years and last night i just got done watching football and the show was on next. When it came on i probably watched maybe 3 minutes of it before i turned it to watch the Pits game and i saw something funny.

www.wtso.net...

Watch the first vid of the show and forward it to the 2:03 mark and tell me what you see lol. Strange.

If I understand correctly, YU55 gets closer to us each time around. So if it doesn't impact this time, it will on one on the next times around, yes??

Originally posted by Finalized

Originally posted by mockrock
The CEO's of all the APEC countries will be jetting off, including many world leaders.. Apparently for the Hawaii Apec conference.. But what if this is the cover to scuttle to the bunkers..?

Where did you get this information?

Google APEC Hawaii ..2011

Originally posted by storm2012
That's really interesting and lot of thinking put into it, I am also an engineer

. All I can say is well lets hope your not right or were all doomed. What bugs me is how can astronomers figure out the orbit of a comet or a asteroid so many light years away, like how??? I know they have instrumentation to do so, but still when I think about, this things are so many millions of miles away, how can they figure out the orbit and make a chart based on it, I mean where do they get this much accurate info, I believe, they are hiding a source from the human population, only some know, and some will never know.

Yeah, that hidden source is called "Mathematics". You're an engineer....really?

Well, space.com just sent me this e-mail...looks pretty interesting...

www.space.com...

Skywatchers hoping to glimpse a huge asteroid as it flies close by Earth Tuesday (Nov. 8) will need the right equipment — and a little bit of luck — to spot the faint and fast-moving space rock in telescopes, scientists say.

Originally posted by mrfire9
Anyone catch last nights episode of The Simpsons? I haven't watched that show in over 4+ years and last night i just got done watching football and the show was on next. When it came on i probably watched maybe 3 minutes of it before i turned it to watch the Pits game and i saw something funny.

www.wtso.net...

Watch the first vid of the show and forward it to the 2:03 mark and tell me what you see lol. Strange.

lanti

That is weird !! Aimed at the Atlantic too !

Well even a close fly by, entering the atmosphere slightly ought to put on a spectacular light show, if not change the regional weather for some hours afterward. No one seems to be intertaining the idea of seeing this as it goes by. Some have said it's 'dark' and well if it is there wouldn't be much reflectivity, maybe, but were it to at least scorch a little, you'd think it would be somehow visible. But, anyway, a lot of effort on the post, thanks.

reply to post by TomServo


Thanks for your reply. I'm still not clear on your explanation. My main point was that negative distances make no sense. Aside from the day before and after 0-day, the slope of the line that plots the distances from Earth over time will look very straight as the comet is coming "almost" directly at us, and then almost directly away from us. And by definition, the point in the graph where the distance = 0.0 would be the time of supposed impact.

Taking the JPL numbers as a starting point, it seems to indicate a curved line, perhaps hyperbolic (forgive my crude geometric terminology) with the base of the hyperbola pointing down.

One of the earlier posters also mentions the distances were "not linear" but really did not go into any detail to explain. I suppose that makes sense, that the only way the distances would be linear is if there would be an impact. The fact that they're "not" linear shows that it will miss Earth.

Maybe this new chart will better explain what I'm suggesting. Thanks!

Originally posted by nv4711

Originally posted by storm2012
That's really interesting and lot of thinking put into it, I am also an engineer

. All I can say is well lets hope your not right or were all doomed. What bugs me is how can astronomers figure out the orbit of a comet or a asteroid so many light years away, like how??? I know they have instrumentation to do so, but still when I think about, this things are so many millions of miles away, how can they figure out the orbit and make a chart based on it, I mean where do they get this much accurate info, I believe, they are hiding a source from the human population, only some know, and some will never know.

Yeah, that hidden source is called "Mathematics". You're an engineer....really?

One other thing about our "engineer." There is nothing astronomers need to consider in terms of "light years," when it comes to determining the orbit of an asteroid around the Sun...Any engineer that does not know what a light year is needs to go back to school...pronto...

Originally posted by Plotus
Well even a close fly by, entering the atmosphere slightly ought to put on a spectacular light show, if not change the regional weather for some hours afterward. No one seems to be intertaining the idea of seeing this as it goes by. Some have said it's 'dark' and well if it is there wouldn't be much reflectivity, maybe, but were it to at least scorch a little, you'd think it would be somehow visible. But, anyway, a lot of effort on the post, thanks.

If it's comes slightly through our atmosphere, then we would be in a world of hurt. Again, not Earth shattering but the atmosphere is only 400 KM's thick. I'm fairly sure that close would mean imminent impact.

reply to post by Phage


That's the beauty of this thread... Somebody else does those calculations for you. Furthermore, Im not really calculating anything per se. Only interpolating hours based on day to day data. The dark red box is the zoomed in area depicted in the original post.