Crimes of OWS by Category

This is just a short list of the crimes that happen in these camps , and the ones that never get reported who knows the true number.


Love seeing some of the ignorant ows supporters here trying to reationlize the context of the claims



i guess the truth really hurts


ows is like a bunch of lost souls looking for the light. The arm chair ows supporters here are their shadows

sad to see reason and logic twisted with emotion and denial

There is a response at OWS:

occupywallst.org...

The Occupy movement has spread to over 1000 cities and includes an estimated half million individuals. Statistically, these communities are well below the national crime standards. The problem, we are discovering, is that these communities do not have the advantage of locks, doors or walls and are proving to be prime targets for some of the seedier folks in the neighborhood. Unfortunately, some of the very folks that are being fed and housed by the occupation have been at the center of many of these attacks. The same crime exists here as in your neighborhood, we just don't have the solid housing structures to keep the wolves at bay.

We are self policing and have peacekeepers assigned to protect the occupants.

Check out the national statistics for 2009.....

www.census.gov...

We should expect to see incidences far exceeding those reported, according to national crime statistics.

Attributing isolated incidences of crime to an entire cross section of human beings is a bit of a red herring. That would make all Muslims terrorists, all militiamen bombers and all Catholics pedophiles. Generalizations are emotion based and ignore vital, reportable data.

I live in South Salt Lake City UTAH. The crimes reported for the entire OWS movement pale in comparison to those committed in my neighborhood in the last month.

There were over 4500 bookings in the Salt Lake County jail last month. This is the average, 54,000 arrests or around 27% of the population annually here. That is from a population of just under 200,000. Logically, we should, according to a relative comparison, expect to see 135000 arrests annually from the OWS Movement that are purely crime related, not protest related….. that’s roughly 11250 arrests per month just to equal the average of SLC UT.

Perspective is essential. I am not condoning any of these behaviors and am actively engaged in eradicating them from the occupation. Things are tough when you can’t appeal to the publically owned police collective. Self policing is damn tough, but a direct consequence of a revolution against government.

Incidentally, check out New York cities crimes for the same period...
www.nyc.gov...

Originally posted by RealAmericanPatriot
reply to post by CaDreamer

 

Jared Loughner WAS A DEMOCRAT... He VOTED for the woman he shot! And he did it because she wasn't liberal enough for him... He even worked for her campaign! How can so many people not know this???

Maybe because it isn't true????

He never worked for her campaign - That is a lie.
And he wasn't a Democrat he was a registered INDEPENDENT.

Loughner registered to vote for the first time in 2006, said Chris Roads, Pima County's registrar of voters. He registered as an independent and last voted in the 2008 general election. Read more: azstarnet.com...

Thanks but again no go, there is no where in any of those arguments that really say that the WHOLE ows movement are criminals.

So thank you again and again for trying to prove something that issint there.

So lets recap shall we: there anarchist, communist, drug dealers, rapist, left wing nuts, radicals, nazy, disease spreaders, socialist, anti america, anti liberty, poor, in for free stuff, no job, hippies, losers, etc

So when you really get proof that the whole movement is really a criminal organisation, you can start your lovely thread again.

Id say this should be in rants but tis not my place to do that

Thanks again

Once again I see that we are our own worst enemies... TPTB don't have to do much these days... We're doing a damn fine job of dividing and conquering ourselves. When are people gonna get it? This rift is quickly polarizing our country and is certain to reach a breaking point soon. We have to find a way to work together, otherwise we are all doomed.

I'm honestly beginning to feel like I would find more logic in a pack of rabid dogs. The accusations of Occupiers trying to cover up crime is a complete lie. Yes there is crime, as I said in a previous post...camping out for weeks and months in a public space does make the protesters vulnerable to predators and opportunists. That does not make the protesters criminals or accessories to crime. People know this and they go anyway, they stay anyway and that ought to tell you something.

You may not agree with the methodolgy or motivations of occupiers and that's fine, it's growing well enough despite your lack of participation or support. You don't need to slander people putting their personal safety on the line, withstanding the cold weather and risk of arrest, to stand up for what they believe in.

reply to post by projectvxn


pure disinfo.

want to know why they don't bother reporting rapes?
because they know the rapists are sent there, by the same folks who paid junkies, and agents provocateurs
why not report, beat up or kill these rapists, cause they're gov. operatives possibly cops.
sex attacks are a not well known method of crushing opposition and terrorizing, TCOTBIP have been using gang rapists since Sodom and Gomorrah

your psychopathic hatred of OWS, Anon and anybody else fighting for the liberation of humanity, reveals you as a petty and frightened Thing, and as some one firmly incorporated in the 1%.

reply to post by Kali74

The accusations of Occupiers trying to cover up crime is a complete lie. Yes there is crime, as I said in a previous post...camping out for weeks and months in a public space does make the protesters vulnerable to predators and opportunists. That does not make the protesters criminals or accessories to crime.

You don't see the contradiction in this paragraph?

You first claim that "Occupiers" trying to cover up crime is a lie...and then you go on to say how the crime is not from OWS protestors...but "predators and opportunists".


The only logic that is lacking is coming from those trying to defend a mob...you can't defend a mob...a mob does what it wants when it wants.

And that is exactly what OWS is...it's a mob...it was organized to be a mob...in order to "raise awareness".

Don't try to defend something that is indefensible...it makes you look illogical.

reply to post by DerepentLEstranger

because they know the rapists are sent there, by the same folks who paid junkies, and agents provocateurs

yes...that is a GREAT reason not to report crime...because your paranoid mind thinks the criminals are being sent by the police

reply to post by projectvxn


What about the crimes committed by wallstreet???
i think there are too many to list.

reply to post by projectvxn

reply to post by tothetenthpower

How much of what you linked and of what exists in the regular media; has been either fabricated or blown out of proportion in order to satisfy the anti-ows movement?

I like how you blew this question off with the same rhetoric again.

Your answer speaks volumes for your position on the matter.

Click here for more information.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


Only eight percent of rapes are reported in any circumstance, and eight percent of those reported are false, so what's your point? That since the rapes weren't reported, they must be being committed by other OWS protesters? And what are you thoughts on the Police directing criminals into the camps?

I understand you're irrationally biased in your hatred for Occupy, but you're really getting quite rediculous. In another thread this evening you were basing theories and claims on a video you obviously hadn't even watched.
Advice? Tone down the rhetoric.

Originally posted by NeoAstra
reply to post by projectvxn

 

What about the crimes committed by wallstreet???
i think there are too many to list.

he'd be shooting himself in the foot, methinks

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by Adamanteus

 

And which ones are they?

Are you saying sexual assault has NOT happened? Or that the allegation are false? Or even better, the victims and witnesses are lying?

edit on 7-11-2011 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)

I hate to play the devil's advocate here, but do you know each and every single victim and witness? I'm not implying that there were no crimes. I'm just saying that you seem so sure that these crimes are slam dunks yet some other members have pointed out some inconsistencies.

Both you and Adamanteus were not there and have no way of knowing. I'm confident that at least some of these allegations are false and or hyped. I'm also going to predict that some of them are true. Because crime happens.

I do know of an instance of a Canadian occupy movement that has become occupied with drugs (not Vancouver but close) and I know for a fact that these drug users and dealers were there decades before Occupy movement.

I'm sure it's the same everywhere else.

To all of you criticizing the crack smoking OWS protesters (if they are even protesters), there is a good chance your government had a hand in shipping that stuff in. It's been going on for decades. Occupy CIA?

reply to post by DerepentLEstranger

pure disinfo. want to know why they don't bother reporting rapes? because they know the rapists are sent there, by the same folks who paid junkies, and agents provocateurs

Now I've heard it all.

why not report, beat up or kill these rapists, cause they're gov. operatives possibly cops.

That must mean that every rape victim everywhere refused to fight because her attacker was a cop.

Are you even reading what you're writing? Absolute, abject BS.

What's worse is that you aren't even embarrassed to post garbage like this.

sex attacks are a not well known method of crushing opposition and terrorizing, TCOTBIP have been using gang rapists since Sodom and Gomorrah

The level at which you are twisting logic and history to come up with this kind of tripe is astounding.

your psychopathic hatred of OWS, Anon and anybody else fighting for the liberation of humanity, reveals you as a petty and frightened Thing, and as some one firmly incorporated in the 1%.

Your paranoia and total lack of logical process is painfully obvious and anyone who THINKS would never buy this kind of garbage no matter what side of the argument they're on.

You should be ashamed of yourself. How can you post stuff like this and really believe it?

reply to post by Drezden


The spendthrifts of the world are still in control of government.

This is not the fault of the Tea Party. It just is what it is.

This thread ties the "This is what delousing looks like: Lice outbreak at Occupy Portland" for funniest OWS propaganda. With that other thread about "im falling and can't get up" that I can't find right now a close second.

Click here for more information.

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


So crimes of this nature are "funny" to you?