I'll give a few examples now and more later as it is getting late and I must now "Occupy" my bed. The book in question is the Book of Acts.

Acts 2 45-47
"Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the lord added to their number daily those who were being saved."

Act 4 3-4
"They seized Peter and John, and because it was the evening, they put them in jail until the next day. But many who heard the message believed, and the number of men grew to about 5000"

That's just two, there are many more I'll share tomorrow. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

amazing how usa people are trained to be so etnocentric that actually believe that every religiuos book or prophecy in the history of the world is usa related.

hope you discover some day that there is a whole planet out there, and its citicens couldn´t care less about usa.

Originally posted by MegasAlexandros
I'll give a few examples now and more later as it is getting late and I must now "Occupy" my bed. The book in question is the Book of Acts.

Acts 2 45-47
"Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the lord added to their number daily those who were being saved."

Act 4 3-4
"They seized Peter and John, and because it was the evening, they put them in jail until the next day. But many who heard the message believed, and the number of men grew to about 5000"

That's just two, there are many more I'll share tomorrow. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

...these things in no way reflect OWS. They are a reflection of the early church (which is what Acts is about). These passages are not allegorical, nor are they prophetic; they are literal history.

Even a cursory glance at OWS would show you that even in the best circumstances, none of the things listed above are happening during those protests... nor are they motivated nor upheld in any way, shape or form by spiritual things, much less a belief in Christ.

Every year, something happens around the world that could sound like a parallel to those scriptures.

Every week or two, someone posts something acting like it's a fulfilled scripture. And every scripture has been 'fulfilled' over and over by now.

The bible is a big book, we're on a big planet. There's plenty room for coincidences, parallels, and 'fulfillment' of prophecies. Same is true with every other religious text that makes ambiguous statements.

I mean, just look at Nostradamus. Most people think he was a nut, and yet all his predictions have managed to come true one way or another. Not because he had any foresight, but because any vague prediction will inevitably come true with time.

I could do the same thing, and make a list of vague predictions. Likely thing is, they'd all come true within my lifetime.

Originally posted by MegasAlexandros
I'll give a few examples now and more later as it is getting late and I must now "Occupy" my bed. The book in question is the Book of Acts.

You are a person who lives and breaths for these occupy moments and events, and now entering a slippery slope with all of this..

If anyone should no better it is you, because:

RELIGION SHOULD HOLD NO PLACE IN THE GOVERNMENT. So to suggest that it should have anything to do with an occupy movement just goes to show that you have absolutely no friggin idea what you go on about!

Alright, I'm back. Just to let you guys know, I'm not Christian, and I'm not stating this as fact. I just thought it was very interesting that the far Christian right, who ironically supported wars in the Middle East on religious pretenses, are now denouncing the Occupy Movement, although if one were to read the Bible on their own, they would most likely conclude that Jesus would be among the protesters if he were currently alive.
I was reminded of this passage by a Baptist Minister at a church dodgeball event. I didn't go to that church, but when he read said passage, it instantly struck a chord, so I asked him about. We got to talking, and when asked, he said he hadn't heard about the OWS protests, so I told him a little bit about it, and he is now a full supporter.

Originally posted by supine


You are a person who lives and breaths for these occupy moments and events, and now entering a slippery slope with all of this..

If anyone should no better it is you, because:

RELIGION SHOULD HOLD NO PLACE IN THE GOVERNMENT. So to suggest that it should have anything to do with an occupy movement just goes to show that you have absolutely no friggin idea what you go on about!

Hahaha, what the heck are you talking about? This makes no sense! I realize religion should have no place in Government, I never said, nor remotely implied that is should. Why don't you rephrase this in something besides Jared Laughtner english.

Originally posted by MegasAlexandros
Alright, I'm back. Just to let you guys know, I'm not Christian, and I'm not stating this as fact. I just thought it was very interesting that the far Christian right, who ironically supported wars in the Middle East on religious pretenses, are now denouncing the Occupy Movement, although if one were to read the Bible on their own, they would most likely conclude that Jesus would be among the protesters if he were currently alive.

If you were a big face(Church Leader, politician, ect), *some* people would have agreed and believed it. Or, if the point you were making included some form of personal gain to be had for believing.

Ultimately, the trick you were trying to use does work. People follow that logic over a lot of things(Such as end times predictions.) However, since they have no motivation to believe in this case, they won't follow the logic here.

If you would have given a pro or anti OWS spin on it. Such as concluded that the bible predicted it'd work, or fail, it would've been more likely to get a believer or two. Those who already hold sentiments towards OWS would be more likely to believe logic that confirmed their already held beliefs. Much more persuasive to have 'God' agree with your subjective feelings and make them objective, than for 'God' to make a neutral reference.

Imagine for example, someone saying that Armageddon will come in 2127. No matter how much evidence they will provide, they couldn't gain as much support as Harold Camping got despite no evidence behind it. Why? People wanted the world to end, they had an incentive to believe. An appeal to emotion.

There is psychology behind making people believe things. You're experiment false short. While I'm not saying that you could convince most christians by making changes like such, you could convince some. Though most christians do succumb to some sort of similar illogical appeal for their beliefs, it's more subtle than that. And not all do though, there are a genuine few who actually examine their beliefs in a scientific way, not so easily persuaded. Those are the nice ones to talk to.

The Bible is a book that illustrates what happens when you get a bunch of people together and try to believe in something, then it all goes to crap. The Jews are abandoned by God and their Temple is destroyed because they come up with the Commandments, but just can't realistically stick with them. The Apostles end up scattered to the winds and hoping for some kind of resurrection because they betrayed their leader and let him be killed.

I don't think it's a good allegory for OWS, because OWS never really got organized enough to be even partially successful to begin with. You need to have at least something like success before it all goes haywire. OWS has never had that.

Today's headlines about the mid-east are relevant to the books of Daniel, and Revelation. Don't think anything in the US has relevance.

Originally posted by MegasAlexandros

"Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.

Obviously they haven't since they are taking videos with their cell phones,Tweeting, and posting to Facebook....
What a ridiculous thread.....