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posted on Sep, 3 2004 @ 02:31 PM
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Lets say that the impossible happens and the silver cord is severed... why would this kill you?


Folklore-wise...

by doing so, the soul would not be able to find it's way back to the body. Without a connection to the soul, the body would die... It is thought that there ARE some beings with the ability to sever the cord...that exist in the astral plane.

Not that I believe this, but then, I didn't believe in the cord either, before...



Odd

posted on Sep, 3 2004 @ 02:37 PM
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I beleive strongly that there are ways to sever a cord.... most of the malign entities you draw to yourself out there are relatively harmless, in that they cannot sever your cord... but if you draw the attention of something genuinely evil (this is usually done by doing something extremely stupid), you may be in danger.



posted on Sep, 3 2004 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok

Folklore-wise...

by doing so, the soul would not be able to find it's way back to the body. Without a connection to the soul, the body would die... It is thought that there ARE some beings with the ability to sever the cord...that exist in the astral plane.

Not that I believe this, but then, I didn't believe in the cord either, before...


In reality its the other way around: with no connection to the physical body the Astral body will die, well just disappear, it can't actually die permanently like the physical body as its not 'alive' in that way


Trust me severing the silver cord can cause no harm at all, and thinking of the Astral body as your soul is way off track.

If the silver cord is severed somehow (and I don't believe that possible at all) nothing bad will happen (as said in my previous post).



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 08:22 AM
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the question is, apart from experience, where does everyone base this information from? is there some ancient online text which i should be reading?

only accounts from people who have seen things are to be found.. in which people base facts off which may have been made up in the first place..



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 10:58 AM
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The silver chord is usually attached at your head, the area that would be called the soft spot on a baby.

You can pull it out, you can cut it, or you can pull it apart.

Your natural reaction when faced with the oppurtunity to do so is to cleave to what you believe. If you believe it will kill you, then your own self will not allow you to break it. It is a matter of your own will.

I have on numerous occasions tried to hide from other entities and always find this chord to be the direct cause of my being found. So, I always cut the thing as soon as I can. I haven't died yet that I know of, but I am sure we could debate on alternate life lines, and if that were the case, then I am sure I have died hundreds of times.

It does kinda tick the handlers off when you do this, because they have to then make repairs.

If you pull it out it feels a lot like pulling a cathedar out in the hospital. Pain is very dull, but still perceivable.

I have also found that multiple chords will be used if you tend to be a problem


The same goes for dying in your dream. You will still be fine when you wake up.

A bit of warning though, I would strongly recommend that anyone with mental health issues should stay away from this zone, and not attempt to oobe or astral project. There are many entities that have freely told me that they intend to take or occupy bodies. You have to allow them to do this and they will try very hard to persuade you to give up.



posted on Sep, 4 2004 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by popeye0314

The silver chord is usually attached at your head, the area that would be called the soft spot on a baby.

You can pull it out, you can cut it, or you can pull it apart.


Yes, this is my experience also. I've never had one, and know others who don't either. In fact, I didn't know you were supposed to have one until I started reading into OOBEs and astral projection some years after I'd been doing it on a regular basis. I know of at least one person who voluntarily cut his some time ago, and he's still alive too.

If you like your cord and feel safer with it, then leave it alone. With anything paranormal, fear can be crippling or even fatal, as it makes what you fear even stronger and/or come to pass. The astral realm is also the sphere of illusion, and it's easy to create a negative "reality" for yourself if you venture forth with fear in your heart. If the cord helps you eliminate that fear, then it's a good thing.

I think the "cut the cord and you die" thing is closely related to the "if you die in a dream, you die in real life" myth. I've died countless times in dreams, and I'm still here.

...or am I? *spooky music*



posted on Sep, 5 2004 @ 02:25 PM
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I havent managed to AP. I did almost (unintentionally) but I got a fright before i was totally out.

Everyone keeps speaking about "entities" or "creatures". Do you see funny things walking around? I would completely die of horror if i were to come across ANYTHING! Perhaps thats how people get posessed! SOmeone severs their line and steals there body!
Dont these entities freak you out?

Odd: What tried to sever your line?


Odd

posted on Sep, 5 2004 @ 04:14 PM
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I'd really rather not say. Those that didn't beleive me would laugh, and those that did would be a bit frightened.



posted on Sep, 6 2004 @ 06:31 AM
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Thats pretty darn scary

Have you ever tried to AP since Odd or have you given it up?



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 05:27 PM
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someone told me something about their AP that wasnt so nice...It bothered me so much I couldnt get out without thinking about it for a lonnng time....

The best thing to do before you get out if you never have or are new is to be very positive....and "root" or "sheild" yourself in some way at least in the beginning.

I found that exercises in meditation, and strengthening your will helps tremendously...I used to imagine myself as a tree, with my roots growing down and securing me as sturdy and strong...As I have done this, I find I have grown taller, bigger stronger, with deeper roots, as time goes by...I dont do this for AP specifically, but it is an exercise in strength and control..To actually "feel" yourself as something else stronger than a human--Not so much visualization, but actually feeling it..This was a lesson to me me from someone very knowlegable in this area..I was told that though visualization is helpful, you want to go beyond that to actually feeling something happening....

When using the "rope method" to "get out" (concentrating on an imaginary (or real) rope haning before you to help you pull out of your physical body)...It is more helpful to hypothetically "feel" the rope than to "see" the rope.


either way, a focus on the positive is necessary..negitave thoughts should be banished completely in order to attain any alternate awareness (meditation self hypnosis, or AP/OOBE)...though you can meditate/self hyp first, to problem solv, and then try for AP or OOBE. Unfinished business in this world will stop you in your tracks from getting out!

Worry about your chord will screw you up!



posted on Sep, 9 2004 @ 07:25 PM
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Kris - Just curious to know if the tree was at all religous based?

Conquering fear is a process. Some of us will choose to confront it and some will choose to take a more passive approach. Neither is right or wrong, just different. In the waking world we deal with all kinds of obstacles, but none are quite like the spiritual realm. The spiritual realm is like a "choose your own adventure" book. The story is there, and the characters exist, but your choices will deterimine which are made known to you. The hard part about the spiritual realm is that your own worst enemy is yourself. This is a very good reason not to watch horror films or listen to a lot of news on t.v. What you put into your brain will find its way into your story. Some people think that the scary or negitive things in the spiritual are completely fictisious, but truely these are entities that appear to us as our knowledge base allows us to see them. There are two paths we can choose to take. The easier path is made up of faith in this world and the safety that we imagine is here. The harder path is full of hardships and is more of a struggle to walk. Choose the easy path and this earthly life will be your foundation, but for those who challenge themselves and are ready to test their own nature, the harder path will be the preperation for life after this world. At sometime in our existence we will all have to face this challenge. Some things in life are undeniable. We will all die and move on to the spiritual, and when we get there we will find a collection of challenges that must be met in order for us to exist. This is the hard lesson of the easy path. The easy path ends where the hard path begins, so one way or another we will all be challenged to deal with and learn how to survive.

Try to imagine the worst most horrific monster that you can. Give it all the super natural abilities that you can possibly think of, and then give this monster a complete history of your life. This is the enemy that you will have to defeat. Now imagine yourself as a guiltless, fearless super hero, and give yourself all the super natural abilities that you can think of. This is your potential, and it is the way you will defeat your enemy.



posted on Sep, 10 2004 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by popeye0314
Kris - Just curious to know if the tree was at all religous based?


No, when someone told me that a root system can go as far underground as its body does above ground , I found that amazing. The strength of something when their roots are so extensive..They say you can imagine yourself as something else by contemplating meditating, visualization and concentrating on it (like a flame).--I did the tree think to try to feel strong and it works



posted on Sep, 10 2004 @ 05:06 PM
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I find this all very fascinating. I have meditated for years but have never had the desire to try AP.

One thing I was wondering tho is can you AP with someone else by connecting your bodies ie. holding hands?



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posted on Sep, 10 2004 @ 06:40 PM
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OK seeing this thread is weird...

Only last week I had one of my irregular sleep paralysis episodes. This time however I partially left my body as I can remember sitting up in my bed. In front of me I could see a dark figure which felt slighly menacing but because I see this figure quite often (I think its the same figure anyway) I seem to fear it less and less each time I see it, in fact I'm what I'm beginning to feel is more anger than fear.
Anyway when I sat up I remember looking down and seeing what looked like a cord silver/grey in colour attached to my lower chest/upper stomach. I couldn't see the other end as it kind of leading towards the dark figure although I don't think he was holding it.
I've never seen it before so I grabbed hold of it (I remember it felt soft and light to touch) and then I started to pull on it just to see what was on the other end. The cord pulled quite easily but after a while it just seemed like the cord had no other end so I stopped pulling. I then remember trying to bite it for some reason but it wouldn't break so I gave up. Then I laid back down and woke up.

I just though that this was a odd dream as I'd never heard of this cord thing before but after seeing this thread... weird.


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posted on Sep, 10 2004 @ 07:06 PM
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Here are some quotes about the Silver Cord gig. These are quotes from a Robert Peterson book called
Out of Body Experiences
How to have them and what to expect




My first strategy for contacting people from the out-of-body state--using thought power--didn't seem to
work. My second strategy--flying--didn't work well either; some distraction always stopped me before I
reached my goal. I decided to try a third strategy, walking. At least until I could find a better way to
travel. After all, what could go wrong with walking?
That's when I discovered the "silver cord" the books talked about. Most books call it the silver cord,
based on a verse in the Bible (Ecclesiastes 12:6). The cord, they said, connects the astral body to the
physical and will pull you back inside in case of danger. I soon found out the cord doesn't play fair:
03/08/80 Sat - OBE #11
...I jerked myself out of line of my body, and floated up. I tried to get away from my body
by clawing the atmosphere and using my legs to push. I got about five feet away from my
body when the cord's pull became stronger and started pulling me back toward my body.
I fought the pull and about one foot away from my bed, I resisted the pull for a few seconds,
and then was violently sucked back into my body by my cord. After I was rejoined to my
physical body, I woke up and looked around.
I wasn't in danger, or even emotional during the whole OBE, and yet the silver cord pulled me back in
the body against my will. Why?
Sylvan Muldoon and Hereward Carrington tried to address the cord-problem in their book, The
Projection of the Astral Body. They claimed there was a "cord activity range" which was like a
fifteen-foot magnetic field all around the physical body. If you're within the cord activity range, they
said, the silver cord was likely to pull you back inside. However, once beyond that range, you are free to
roam.
I was fairly angry with my silver cord, but what could I do to keep it from pulling me back to my body?
Many books on astral projection warned me against tampering with my astral cord. They said if I
damaged the cord, my body would suffer great physical harm, and if my cord was broken my body
would die.
But what made them the experts? How often have people actually tried playing with their astral cord? I
decided to be cautious about my cord, but not cave in to fear and occult superstition. I decided not to
accept my limitations, but to fight back!
07/30/81 Thu - OBE #44
...My cord started a gentle tug back, but I responded immediately by resisting and, with a
swimming-like motion, propelled myself forward in a southeast direction through the corner
of my bedroom and into our kitchen hall. I walked into the kitchen against the tug of my own astral cord.
After struggling all the way to the kitchen, I got very angry at walking with the cord tugging
against me. I turned around and grabbed hold of the cord and I yanked it with all my might,
to make more slack.
The cord drooped down to the floor and I continued....
In the experience above the astral cord seemed like a glowing piece of garden hose. I soon found out the
silver cord can take different shapes, especially when the astral traveler is a somewhat disoriented
computer programmer:
01/31/82 Sun - OBE #63
Last night I stayed up watching a television show until 1:00am. I was very tired. This
morning I woke up early once, and went back to sleep.
I started to dream. I dreamed that there was a party going on at our house. Then I woke up.
The only thing I remember from that dream was (1) JP and CA were outside when the
dream ended, (2) My bedroom door was open and (3) LD and some others were upstairs, in
JP and CA's bedroom.
I drifted back toward sleep, but then I realized that I could project very easily; all I had to do
was to throw my consciousness forward, and start astrally swaying. I was laying on my right
side. So I pushed my whole consciousness forward. At once I was zapped into my astral
body, and I started swaying forward and backward. The vibrations had built until they were
noticeable, but were getting constantly stronger. I knew I was now partly in and partly out of
my body....
On a forward swing (or swaying) I lunged forward, and twisted up to separate the two
bodies, in a very sudden and violent manner. In my astral body now, as I made the
movement I felt a great tearing sensation coupled with the feeling that my solar plexus had
just dropped and I felt a bit sick to my stomach.
I was not seeing, but once again mind-sensing. I was about a foot above my body, and I was
in a laying position, pointed perpendicularly away my body and about a foot away from the
bed. For a second I worried that I might have torn my astral cord, and made a permanent
projection (death). Then I thought, "Well, it's too late to worry about it now. Either I'm okay,
or the damage has already been done." So I ignored it and decided to try to contact LD.
I was groggy. I noticed that I seemed to have a computer printout in my hand, and I felt the
need to take this printout with me and show it to LD. I still had that last dream in mind. My
bedroom door looked open, although the physical door was really shut. And I somehow
believed that LD was upstairs in JP and CA's bedroom. So I took the end of my computer
printout, and I walked into the dining room. I didn't want my computer printout to tear, so I
walked very carefully, and I turned to see how my printout would unfold itself. The other
end was sitting on the floor next to my bed--apart from my body.
I walked backwards and I watched it unfold and grow longer with each additional page
being unfolded from the main pile. Upon looking back into my room I saw the printout, but
not any astral cord, so I realized that the printout that was unfolding WAS my astral cord [in disguise]! That's why there seemed no end to it! It only took the appearance of a printout!
I tried to climb through the ceiling into their apartment, but I was unsuccessful; I blacked
out.
How's that for taking your work home with you? Anyway, since my astral cord didn't break during that
experience, I decided not to be so "gentle" the next time I was out! No more Mister Nice Guy!
02/06/82 Sat - OBE #64
...I was in my astral body, swaying. I struggled, and pulled away [from the body] a little bit,
but I felt the resistance of my astral cord.
Last night I had been conditioning myself for these problems. I kept saying the following
affirmations to myself: (1) When I am in my astral body, everything is governed by thought
whether conscious or unconscious. (2) Nothing on Earth is solid to me, except in my mind.
(3) I will feel no resistance, nor any restriction of my freedom. (4) I will be able to go
wherever I wish without interruption. (5) I should be able to see through walls and ceilings.
Well, now I felt the resistance of my astral cord, and I thought, "Hey! This isn't fair! I am
projecting and I should be free!" But just then I was violently sucked back into my body
after having resisted as long as I could. I woke up in my physical body after a short
blackout, and without any ill effects.
I said to myself, "I'm not giving up that easily!" and I tried the same procedure. It was
relatively easy this time, and I slipped right out. I pulled away from my body on purpose,
and I started walking toward my bedroom door. This time I could feel my astral cord taking
up the slack, and exerting a greater force. I was three feet from my body on the bed, and I
was upright and facing my bedroom door.
When I felt my cord starting to tighten, I turned around and faced my body. I'd like to note
here that I was only mind-sensing during the whole projection. And since I was not
"seeing," I had to feel where my cord was. I felt it, and it was now joined to my astral self at
the bottom of my rib cage, or just a little below my heart, and between where the ribs divide
going down.
The cord itself felt smooth but very rigid, like a piece of garden hose. The cord was about
one centimeter in diameter.
Anyway, I put my hand just above my cord, so that I would see where it was when I woke
up. I somehow thought that my physical hand would be moved to that spot too. I got into a
kung fu stance with my weight mostly on my back leg. I was now prepared to play
tug-of-war, with my own astral rope!
I yanked at the cord as hard as I could. I started resisting its pull, and I kept trying to
reassure myself that I should, by all rights, be free from this menace.
I resisted the cord's pull for a little while, as long as I could, and then I got sucked back in
[my body] again.
Apparently my kung fu stance didn't help me resist the cord any better. The cord held up against my most determined effort to pull on it, without any damage.
There has been a lot of discussion about the astral cord, what it is and whether or not it exists. Many
people who have had out-of-body experiences or near-death experiences have reported seeing a cord or
cable linking their astral body to their physical body. People from all societies and all parts of the world
have reported seeing a cord regardless of location, age and religious beliefs.
Just as many people don't see any silver cord, even when they look for one and even when they expect to
see one. I've had OBEs in which I have seen a cord, and ones in which there was apparently no cord. I
personally believe that the astral cord exists only as a psychological comfort or point of reference. I don't
believe it has any actual connection with the physical body. Also, I don't believe it has any function,
except as a psychological symbol.
I don't believe that playing with the silver cord can damage the body, and I don't believe the body will die
if the cord is severed. However, I caution you against such antics, just to be safe.


you can find his book on amazon somewhere, anyway its a cool read you might wanna check it out. also a few other people you might want to check out.

Robert Bruce
Robert Monroe

a few sites I recommend are here for places that deal exclusively to AP/OoBE's

This site has alot of info on AP/OoBe's
www.astralvoyage.com...

This place has online classes, I have been taking them for the last 30 some odd weeks.

www.astralprojection.ws...

anyway I would just say read up and find out what your self what the silver cord can and cant do. Its nothing like someone telling you and you doing it.


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posted on Sep, 11 2004 @ 01:43 PM
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Ok so what happens when you severe the silver cord from just say, where your physical body is lying. If you break it off from the physical body and not ur astral body, then you would still have a silver cord dangling from you? Do you?

Anyways... I was reading and thinking. If some of those other entities are trying to persuade you to hop into your physical body, Then wouldn't they have to be connected to the physical body for a while? Such as hoooking up their own silver cord (if you allow them of course)....

Well if they were able to for instance, then mightn't it be possible to meet jsut say another human attached with a silver cord to thier astral body in the astral plane at the same time as you. Couldn't you then disconnect both the silver cords from your physical body and then maybe connect the silver cord onto thier physical body and they do the same to you? Swap physical bodies for a while? Heheh oh the fun ;P

Anyways... Does this sound reasonable/plausable?



posted on Sep, 11 2004 @ 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by DaRAGE
Anyways... Does this sound reasonable/plausable?


The silver cord CANNOT EVER NOT IN A MILLION BILLION YEARS EVER be severed


You are thinking too 'physically'. Just because it looks like a cord, and acts like a cord in the astral it doesn't mean that it is a cord. Its just an interperetation of the connection between both bodies because they are both you, and you will be psychically connected to each other because of this, and this connection is visible in the astral as a silver cord.

The psychic connection that is connecting you cannot be severed because you will never stop being you, and thats what keeps the connection active.

There is no cord to be severed, its an illusion. It only looks like a cord. It's not! It can't be severed.

And you can enter someone elses body without their permission but you can't control them and I don't know how to do this (wish I did, sounds like fun). But twop people can never swap bodies.



posted on Sep, 11 2004 @ 10:37 PM
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lol yeah that does sound like fun >



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 12:49 PM
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Faceless - Do you think that humans would be allowed to rome freely into the spiritual without any means of protection for others or even protection from ourselves?

There are many forms of protection in the spiritual. The chord is one example. You are kept track of and you are kept from going where you shouldn't. In addition to the chord which works much like the retractable extension chord, there are also:

Astral leaches - If you stray into a place that is off limits to the living, you will be attacked by them and they will drain your energy level to a point that will return you to this world. These are mosltly used in earth like residential areas of the spiritual where people exist in the same manner we do on earth.

Guard dogs - typically a lot like a doberman, these dogs are used in extremely off limits places. Example: Gates to Hell are protected by these dogs, hence the name hell dog.

Your own emotions are also a form of protection. If you try to do something that would be an emotional rise, you will lose touch with the spiritual. This protection will take care of all most any trouble you can get in to. If your heart rate raises you will be swept back and have no control.

The chord is a connection, but it isn't a part of you. It is mechanically connected. It is a tracking device of sorts.



posted on Sep, 12 2004 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by popeye0314
Faceless - Do you think that humans would be allowed to rome freely into the spiritual without any means of protection for others or even protection from ourselves?


Yep



There are many forms of protection in the spiritual. The chord is one example. You are kept track of and you are kept from going where you shouldn't.


Care to explain how you come to this conclusion? I am not saying you are wrong but I have never heard or experienced anything that would make me think this is likely.


In addition to the chord which works much like the retractable extension chord, there are also:

Astral leaches - If you stray into a place that is off limits to the living, you will be attacked by them and they will drain your energy level to a point that will return you to this world. These are mosltly used in earth like residential areas of the spiritual where people exist in the same manner we do on earth.


These are certainly not ways of making you stay away from places you shouldn't be. I agree they can be used like this like a curse or spell, but in general they just raom around looking for food (energy) like things do in the physical. They are just astral wildlife.

People have left their bodies and instantly are covered in hundreds of them all over. They just latch onto whatever whenever.


Guard dogs - typically a lot like a doberman, these dogs are used in extremely off limits places. Example: Gates to Hell are protected by these dogs, hence the name hell dog.


Same applies here. If you go to the hellish dimensions consider yourself lucky if all you encounter is a guard dog.


Your own emotions are also a form of protection. If you try to do something that would be an emotional rise, you will lose touch with the spiritual. This protection will take care of all most any trouble you can get in to. If your heart rate raises you will be swept back and have no control.


I can agree with that



The chord is a connection, but it isn't a part of you. It is mechanically connected. It is a tracking device of sorts.


How did you come to this conclusion?



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