Mail from the Lucis Trust

Originally posted by Mr. D
Hypocrisy: "Sacrifice of selfishness" is stated in one of the documents yet they are connected with the worlds most powerful and rich.

This is exactly what i mean. If their intent was true selflessness how come they are the way they are. I mean some of these members in the OP are so not for selflessness.

Is there something I am not getting?

Originally posted by LanternOfDiogenes
. these cats are no one to fool with, the fact you got an invitation means you must be a person of some power all on your own.. I would take careful consideration about how much more you share on this subject. Blessed be and may you be protected from all that would harm you.

I have learned over the past year that silent thunder is a risk junkie, so such warnings are probably useless. I will add mine anyway, though.

We hope he will heed you...one day he may go a bit too far...

I looked ionto the Lucis Trust at one point they are involved in bringing about a One World Government by means of the UN.

Originally posted by UnlimitedSky

Originally posted by Mr. D
Hypocrisy: "Sacrifice of selfishness" is stated in one of the documents yet they are connected with the worlds most powerful and rich.

This is exactly what i mean. If their intent was true selflessness how come they are the way they are. I mean some of these members in the OP are so not for selflessness.

Is there something I am not getting?

Don't know either. I'm just tired of all the feel good double talk yet always the same ol same ol.

reply to post by silent thunder

These guys are New Agers.

Blavatsky is hugely responsible for the theoretical underpinnings of this movement.

Her ideas about "Lucifer" don't get much attention. But apparently, she saw this figure as a questioner of authority. Authority, of course, would seek to demonize Lucifer. But was it really that evil to question "God's" word? I think that's where she was coming from.

But of course those who follow "God's word" will have the knee-jerk response that anything connected with "Lucifer" is demonic. This is far from a fair-minded approach to the New Agers or Blavatsky.

But I think most of the New Agers have been co-opted by the New World Order people. They believe they have a personal answer that "transcends" the physical. So they are willing to be somewhat irresponsible about what goes on in the physical plane.

My personal opinion is that many of these guys can't confront worth crap and are extremely gullible. They are relatively useless to the Deny Ignorance movement, to themselves, and to society. Their tendency to play down the existence of real evil on the planet annoys me and is unhelpful. I have pretty much written them off.

Originally posted by UnlimitedSky

Originally posted by Pimander


I see lots of talk of Satan. You seem to have made a leap here.

Who/what do YOU believe Lucifer is? It means bearer of light which can be thought of as a reference to Venus among other things.

Now do you think that what you consider to be Lucifer is what these guys "worship"? What evidence do you have that this is the case? Why do you think this is Satan?

I'm not saying you are right or wrong. I just don't see any evidence for what you are saying. I also see little evidence that YOU have a clear idea what you are talking about. I just see religious proclamation without any clear justification for what you are saying.

I'd like to see a bit of clarity on why you are making these claims. I'd hate to have to draw the conclusion that you are just spouting stuff based on what some preacher has told you without looking into the claims...

Hi Pimander,

Who are you talking to?

Whoever was banging on about Satan. I like people to have a grasp of what they are spouting about is all.

is that your mailing address on one of the letters. maybe you should delete that if it is.

send the letter back and tell lucifer to shove it up his ***.

reply to post by randomname


Thanks for the heads up, but no...those three addresses are Lucis Trust addresses.

Scared me for a moment...

The teaching, propounded in Alice Bailey's book "A Treatise on Cosmic Fire," that there are seven cosmic planes of consciousness has now been mathematically proven to be embodied in the sacred geometries of major religions, e.g., the Tree of Life (Otz Chiim) of Jewish Kabbalah and the Sri Yantra of Tantric Hinduism, as well as in the five Platonic solids. Bailey revealed that the seven planes taught by Blavatasky and then by her students Annie Besant and Charles W. Leadbeater constituted only the first of seven cosmic planes. This has been proved in the last few years to be represented in what is a hitherto unsuspected, amazing geometrical structure underlying the historical Otz Chiim - its "inner form". In what experts on sacred geometry regard as a tour de force, this map of all the levels of reality has been demonstrated to be isomorphic to other examples of sacred geometry.

Those who have managed to break free of the intellectual yoke of their fundamentalist Christian upbringing (as well as those who were never imprisoned by it) can discover the beautiful mathematics of "God's Creation" (like the irony of these words?) by studying this remarkable, intellectually and spiritually challenging research at:
smphillips.8m.com...

Silent Thunder thank you for making this public. It's very very important to know who the enemy is, and what they are doing.

To the poster who thought this was all love and light, here's how it is:

there are 2 teams, both look good on the outside, but one is lying ... how do you work this out? The other question of course is who holds the power, they're the problem. (hint: UN)

"LUCIFER" is a match, or bright light ... LUCIS trust is Lucifarian, they've admitted that repeatedly, and Alice Bailey was a SCARY woman, friends with Crowley and that crowd. Everything they do is personal power. Everything.

That means power OVER you.

Silent, they watch closely, take care.

awesome research, i'm so glad that somebody is finally getting some attention here with this topic, it's the root of the new age movement as well and is truly a wolf in sheep's clothing. i sincerely hope that people will see this for what it is and i thank you much for sharing it. good luck to you S&F

reply to post by UnlimitedSky


The Bible is clear that THE GREAT DECEPTION of the END TIMES

will be SO GREAT and so slick

that WERE IT POSSIBLE,

THE VERY ELECT would be deceived.

To answer your questions:

1. Even the 'nice' critters have been repeatedly caught in lies.

2. 'critters' is as good a collective term as I've come up with for what is highly likely to be fallen angels . . . with some slight possibility that some may be genuinely citizens of distant orbs . . . though scientist Jacques Vallee affirmed that they are all 'merely' evil spiritual critters from a spiritual DIMENSION.

3. That they are all cooperating with, aiding, supporting, meshing, orchestrating, directing, fitting in with the satanic globalist humans toward setting up the satanic global government

IS ALL I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THEIR GOALS AND VALUES.

4. Satan is characterized as an angel of light. As St Paul said--even if an angel from Heaven come preaching

ANY OTHER GOSPEL--CONSIDER HIM ACCURSED!

5. This era is AT LEAST about DEMONSTRATING the darkness getting darker and the true light getting lighter . . . and that one leads to eternal death and one to eternal light. There are no other choices.

6. Deception will be rife. Only a RELATIONSHIP with the risen Lord Yeshua; King of Kings and Lord of Lords and His Holy Spirit can truly lead to Life everlasting.

ALL ELSE is deception, sham, hokum. farce.

Originally posted by BO XIAN
The Bible is clear that THE GREAT DECEPTION of the END TIMES

Teaching the literal truth of the Bible is a great deception.

Here's a rather intriguing article that not only addresses Alice Bailey, Lucis Trust, and the U.N., but proposes a statement identifying which groups might fall under the term New Age and their witting or unwitting use in the satanic master plan.

But let's start with the author's concluding remarks and overall thesis:

...Remember, at the top levels, it is a spiritual recruitment of the world to mass-possession and discipleship to their demons and their demonic "Plan." But the bait can be transformed into secularized gimmicks that pull anti-religious people and organizations into their game plan, as well. …

...In order to reach their aims of world unity and thus engage the whole world in service to The Plan, "enlightened" Freemasons and New Agers have been pushing for collectivist motifs that promote monistic pantheism and unity. This is why the chief instigators to the globalistic League of Nations and United Nations have been Theosophists, trying to work out the Plan.
www.conspiracyarchive.com...

And the socio-polical aims of the Lucis Trust:

This is why the verbiage and aims of the UN is for world peace and brotherhood. It is a "spiritual" undertaking in a secular world. Lucis Trust has had three think-tanks located at the UN Plaza in New York for around fifty years. No wonder the former Assistant Secretary General to the UN, Robert Muller, is a devoted disciple of Alice Bailey, whose book, A Treatise on White Magic, forms the basis for the Robert Muller schools...

...But in addition to the stars of the early days at the UN, the associations and unseen think tanks are alarming. Lucis Trust has an educational curricula dedicated to training students in the ageless wisdom, primarily through correspondence. By 1954(?) Bailey had boasted 20,000 graduates from the Arcane School, or as it may fairly be referred to, Occult University. Muller himself was likely an alumnus as he spoke to their graduation ceremony on more than one occasion. (See A Planned Deception by Constance Cumbey).
www.conspiracyarchive.com...

The following link has a well-written article about the kind of consensus building I was referring too.
Delphi Technique: How To Achieve A Workable Consensus Within Time Limits

reply to post by The GUT

I think that the more sinister aspects of the plot are more a high-jack of several genuine spiritual traditions. In particular, the new age movement has been subject to a great deal of manipulation some of which is clearly quite sinister.

MK-ULTRA, COINTELPRO and the CIA - Sinister Mind Control and New Age Spirituality.

However, I don't think learning for example about the Chakra system is part of some Satanic plot. I also do not buy into the idea that because the bible says something then it is true or even necessarily in our interests to believe.

Genesis is at least 3 stories.

Look at the book of Genesis and explain to me how God was a number of beings. "Let us create man in OUR image (not to mention certain etymology). Who is us? Not a single deity for starters!

Another aspect to the genesis story is a separate story that has been mixed in with the creation myth. That is the entirely symbolic story of the serpent in the garden. I won't even go there right now as I know some of you will probably explode. Another part is the quasi-historical story of the Israelites.

Originally posted by Pimander
Teaching the literal truth of the Bible is a great deception.

1. 100's of the Bible's prophecies regarding Israel and other nations have already come true.

LITERALLY.

2. A hundred years ago it was fashionable in archeology etc. to pontificate about how The Bible had to be wrong about this tribal group or that group or this locale or that locale . . . all of which couldn't possibly have existed or what the Bible said about them couldn't possibly have been true etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum.

Trouble is, succeeding years of better and more extensive archeology have demonstrated that the Bible's narratives about such things were

LITERALLY TRUE.

3. The Bible has been proven in my life and millions of lives of Christians around the world to be

LITERALLY TRUE.

about

A) human nature

B) satan and his seductive methods, goals, blood lust and deadliness.

C) God's desire and follow-through for RELATIONSHIP with those who Love Him.

4. The Bible's prophecies about the END TIMES have been repeatedly proven

LITERALLY TRUE.

dozens of times over and over and over . . . and are being increasingly proven

LITERALLY TRUE. at a faster and faster rate.

Of course, the WILLFULLY BLIND will not accept any number of warehouses full of proof about much of anything.

Some would have us believe that the bumper sticker about COEXISTing is an erudite, 'truly truest truth' though the same people rant endlessly about how there is no truth--that all is relative--merely a function of time plus chance.

Actually, on that score, the following IS TRUE:



However, it is fashionable and well pleasing to the satanic globalist oligarchy to trash the Bible. Join the club at your own risk.

Folks have been attempting to trash The Bible for centuries. All such efforts have always failed.

As Yeshua Himself said . . . Heaven and earth will pass away but God's Word will never pass away.

The Living Word Christ Jesus is the only solid rock there is.

Folks will become broken and enlivened ON HIM

or crushed under His Words of TRUTH.

reply to post by BO XIAN
OK, this is getting off topic so if you want to really get into this start a thread on it, please. I will make this short comment which is admittedly my opinion. I wasn't told to believe this, I worked it out for myself.

Of course it's true, every word. The Earth was created in 7 days and is only a few thousand years old. Even where the Bible contradicts itself it is still always true no matter how much we have to convolute matters.

Superstitious nonsense. Utterly ridiculous!

ETA: That isn't to say there is no truth in the Bible. There is also truth from other sources. Failure to recognise that fact has harmed humanity a does any form of fundamentalism in my opinion.

This is a repost of mine, but it's very on topic. I went through the You-tube mentioned to outline what the pastor outlined as the ten recent and on-going aims of Lucis Trust (knowing that the videos occasionally get deleted).
Some of those outlines ring similar to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. I haven't checked to see if the video is still in existance; It may be, he had a number up.

If I could, I would dedicate the day to Forerunner777 on YouTube, a young black pastor who knows what's going on in the world today. I would dedicate the day to a fore-understanding of what's happening now, and although I viewed his videos months ago, they make more sense now.

Please reflect on the master plan, bloodline-supported, working through Lucis Trust and the UN and representing the theosophical beliefs of Alice Bailey, Madame Blavatsky, and the ordering behind a nwo system. Her master occultic spirit in charge of the Vatican is "Master Jesus", once again a double-think example which allows them to prey on modern Christianity, and speak of "Jesus" in two entirely different lights. They aren't lying! They too believe in a "Jesus", and have often talked about him - the Judas master spirit who will set up the NWO religion through Maitreya as current appearances present. Research, research, research!! This is not the Buddhist Maitreya, but Cremes version on SHARE International (another double-think hoodwink).

(continued below)

The edicts, long-sown in our culture. I think this covers the tip of the iceberg. As outlined in Forerunner777's video on Youtube. I wrote these down months ago : I AM WRITING IN CONTEXT TO THE AGENDA AND AM NOT SUPPORTING THESE EDICTS.

1. Push God out of the schools. If the people grow up without reference to God, then they will consider God irrelevant to day-to-day life. in the last fifty years this has happened. God is irrelevant to most people.

2. Break the traditional Judeo-Christian family concept. Break communication between parents and children so that parents can't pass on spiritual values to their children. Do this by pushing excessive child rights.

3. Remove restrictions on sex. Sex is the biggest joy and Christianity robbs people of this. People must be freed to enjoy it without restrictions. It's not just for married, it's for everybody.

4. Since sex is the greatest expression of man's enjoyment of life, man must be free to express sex in all its forms. Homosexuality, orgies, even bestiality are desirable so long as no one is being abuses or harmed.

5. People must be free to abort unwanted children. If a man can have sex and then live without the consequences then the same should be true for a woman. A woman must have the right to abort an unwanted child.

6. Every person develops soul-bonds, so when a soul-bond wears out a person must be free to divorce. When one starts to grow, one must be free to get together with that person, even if they are married ...

7. Diffuse religious radicalism. Christianity says Jesus is the only way. Diffuse this by:
A) Silencing Christianity and
B) Promoting other faiths. The creation of interfaith harmony

8. Use the media to influence mass opinion. Create mass opinion that is receptive to these values by using tv film, the press, etc. Note well that what western believers call normal, in the African Church would be pornography.

9. Debase art in all its forms. Corrupt music, painting, poetry and every expression of the heart and make it obscene, immoral, and occultic. Debase the arts in every way possible.

10. Get the church to endorse every one of these nine strategies. Get the church to accept these principles and to say they are okay - the legal ground is given for these value to get a foothold.


What we see is the culmination of many slippery slopes. The devil rules culture, and it is the foul poisoned heart that many cling to for life. Sidestep culture, the western circus society and government, see past the upper hardcord face of socialist world government, and figure out what ideologies are really in place. Fast-track your educations, because the time is short! Don't get caught in culture or partisan politics which is nothing but divide and conquer, one citizen and their clique against another.

reply to post by Pimander


More straw dogs.

I thoroughly believe the Bible . . .

I do not believe the earth is only 6,000 years old.

The Bible is the only substantive counter to the topic of this thread--satan and satanism.

The Blood of Jesus and the Name of Jesus are the only hope for those consumed by demonization of any significant degree.

The Bible predicted a global government in the END TIMES in the same era in which Israelites would again return to Israel and form a Nation again "in a day."

This happened LITERALLY in 1948.

Denial of facts doesn't alter the facts in the least.