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lol yes i KNOW hence the :'( smiley
haha
i think he was just trying to avoid the question, seems like he didnt know anything about it
but no, it didnt have anything about P2 etc (is that the italian lodge? correct me if im wrong...& just embarrassed myself)
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reply posted on 20-12-2009 @ 08:19 AM by ConspiracyNut23
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Ah! sorry I missed that! :'(
yes, the nefarious Italian lodge involving Roberto Calvi and Licio Gelli.
[edit on 20/12/09 by ConspiracyNut23]
Ah! sorry I missed that! :'(
yes, the nefarious Italian lodge involving Roberto Calvi and Licio Gelli.
[edit on 20/12/09 by ConspiracyNut23]
reply posted on 26-12-2009 @ 03:53 PM by coverfirehero
Here's a few things you may want to read as they've gone down the memory hole of history.
1922 New York City Mayor John F. Hylan in a speech on the state of the nation:
"...The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over City, State, and nation... It seizes in its long and powerful tentacles our executive officers, our legislative bodies, our schools, our courts, our newspapers, and every agency created for the public protection..."
"To depart from mere generalizations, let me say that at the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller-Standard Oil interest and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as the international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes."
"They practically control both parties, write political platforms, make catspaws of party leaders, use the leading men of private organizations, and resort to every device to place in nomination for high public office only such candidates as will be amenable to the dictates of corrupt big business..."
"These international bankers and Rockefeller-Standard Oil interests control the majority of the newspapers and magazines in this country. They use the columns of these papers to club into submission or drive out of office public officials who refuse to do the bidding of the powerful corrupt cliques which compose the invisible government...."
"THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.
We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." - 1928 Propaganda by Edward Bernays www.historyisaweapon.com...
June 10, 1932, Congressman Louis T. McFadden before the House of Representatives, (in the midst of the Great Depression)
Facsimile www.afn.org...
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power. But the truth is, the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the government of the United States. It controls everything here; and it controls our foreign relations. It makes or breaks governments at will. No man, and no body of men, is more entrenched in power than the arrogant credit monopoly which operates the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. These evil-doers have robbed this country of more than enough money to pay the national debt. What the National Government has permitted the Federal Reserve Board to steal from the people should now be restored to the people. The people have a valid claim against the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. If that claim is enforced, Americans will not need to stand in bread lines. Homes will be saved. Families will be kept. What is needed here is a return to the Constitution of the United States. The old struggle that was fought out here in Jackson's day must be fought over again. The Federal Reserve Act should be repealed; and the Federal Reserve Banks - having violated their charters - should be liquidated immediately. Faithless government officers who have violated their oaths of office should be impeached and brought to trial. Unless this is done by us, I predict the American people - outraged, robbed, pillaged, insulted, and betrayed as they are in their own land - will rise in their wrath and send a President here who WILL sweep the money changers from the temple."
He then went on to impeach Herbert Hoover and brought conspiracy charges against him which failed. There were two attempts on his life and then he died in 1936 on a visit to New York.
1922 New York City Mayor John F. Hylan in a speech on the state of the nation:
"...The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over City, State, and nation... It seizes in its long and powerful tentacles our executive officers, our legislative bodies, our schools, our courts, our newspapers, and every agency created for the public protection..."
"To depart from mere generalizations, let me say that at the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller-Standard Oil interest and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as the international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes."
"They practically control both parties, write political platforms, make catspaws of party leaders, use the leading men of private organizations, and resort to every device to place in nomination for high public office only such candidates as will be amenable to the dictates of corrupt big business..."
"These international bankers and Rockefeller-Standard Oil interests control the majority of the newspapers and magazines in this country. They use the columns of these papers to club into submission or drive out of office public officials who refuse to do the bidding of the powerful corrupt cliques which compose the invisible government...."
"THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.
We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." - 1928 Propaganda by Edward Bernays www.historyisaweapon.com...
June 10, 1932, Congressman Louis T. McFadden before the House of Representatives, (in the midst of the Great Depression)
Facsimile www.afn.org...
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power. But the truth is, the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the government of the United States. It controls everything here; and it controls our foreign relations. It makes or breaks governments at will. No man, and no body of men, is more entrenched in power than the arrogant credit monopoly which operates the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. These evil-doers have robbed this country of more than enough money to pay the national debt. What the National Government has permitted the Federal Reserve Board to steal from the people should now be restored to the people. The people have a valid claim against the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. If that claim is enforced, Americans will not need to stand in bread lines. Homes will be saved. Families will be kept. What is needed here is a return to the Constitution of the United States. The old struggle that was fought out here in Jackson's day must be fought over again. The Federal Reserve Act should be repealed; and the Federal Reserve Banks - having violated their charters - should be liquidated immediately. Faithless government officers who have violated their oaths of office should be impeached and brought to trial. Unless this is done by us, I predict the American people - outraged, robbed, pillaged, insulted, and betrayed as they are in their own land - will rise in their wrath and send a President here who WILL sweep the money changers from the temple."
He then went on to impeach Herbert Hoover and brought conspiracy charges against him which failed. There were two attempts on his life and then he died in 1936 on a visit to New York.
reply posted on 26-12-2009 @ 04:10 PM by coverfirehero
November 21, 1933 President Franklin D. Roosevelt wrote a letter to Col. Edward Mandell House
F.D.R.: His Personal Letters (New York: Duell, Sloan and Pearce 1950), p. 373.
"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson."
1969 Congressional Record By United States Congress
Norman Thomas books.google.com... will+adopt+every+fragment+of+the+Socialist+program,+until+one+day+America+will+be+a+Socialist+nation,+without+knowing+how+it+happened&dq=The+American+ people+will+never+knowingly+adopt+Socialism.+But+under+the+name+of+%22liberalism%22+they+will+adopt+every+fragment+of+the+Socialist+program,+until+one +day+America+will+be+a+Socialist+nation,+without+knowing+how+it+happened&pgis=1
"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of "liberalism" they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."
1952, The Impact of Science on Society by Bertrand Russell
George Allen & Unwin books.google.com... n8aMW42s&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPA40,M1
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated."
February 23, 1954 “It Can Happen Here” Senate Floor Senator William Jenner
This is in box 3, item 9 at Hanover College in his collection
"Today the path to total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people....outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government, a bureaucratic elite which believes our Constitution is outmoded and is sure that it is the winning side.... All the strange developments in the foreign policy agreements may be traced to this group who are going to make us over to suit their pleasure.... This political action group has its own local political support organizations, its own pressure groups, its own vested interests, its foothold within our government, and its own propaganda apparatus."
F.D.R.: His Personal Letters (New York: Duell, Sloan and Pearce 1950), p. 373.
"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson."
1969 Congressional Record By United States Congress
Norman Thomas books.google.com... will+adopt+every+fragment+of+the+Socialist+program,+until+one+day+America+will+be+a+Socialist+nation,+without+knowing+how+it+happened&dq=The+American+ people+will+never+knowingly+adopt+Socialism.+But+under+the+name+of+%22liberalism%22+they+will+adopt+every+fragment+of+the+Socialist+program,+until+one +day+America+will+be+a+Socialist+nation,+without+knowing+how+it+happened&pgis=1
"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of "liberalism" they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."
1952, The Impact of Science on Society by Bertrand Russell
George Allen & Unwin books.google.com... n8aMW42s&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPA40,M1
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated."
February 23, 1954 “It Can Happen Here” Senate Floor Senator William Jenner
This is in box 3, item 9 at Hanover College in his collection
"Today the path to total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people....outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government, a bureaucratic elite which believes our Constitution is outmoded and is sure that it is the winning side.... All the strange developments in the foreign policy agreements may be traced to this group who are going to make us over to suit their pleasure.... This political action group has its own local political support organizations, its own pressure groups, its own vested interests, its foothold within our government, and its own propaganda apparatus."
reply posted on 26-12-2009 @ 04:24 PM by coverfirehero
1966 Tragedy and Hope: A History of The World in Our Time Professor Carroll Quigley of Georgetown University
Macmillan Company
sandiego.indymedia.org...
"The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds' central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups."
It is a system “to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences,”
"The Council on Foreign Relations is the American branch of a society which originated in England ... [and] ... believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established."
"I know of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years in the early 1960s to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies ... but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known."
Professor Quigley was a Globalist, he supported the idea NEW WORLD ORDER and wrote about it, he, unlike the elites, thought the people should know about it. He was also a mentor to Bill Clinton. Here's an interview from 1974 with him talking about it
www.liveleak.com...
Macmillan Company
sandiego.indymedia.org...
"The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds' central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups."
It is a system “to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences,”
"The Council on Foreign Relations is the American branch of a society which originated in England ... [and] ... believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established."
"I know of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years in the early 1960s to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies ... but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known."
Professor Quigley was a Globalist, he supported the idea NEW WORLD ORDER and wrote about it, he, unlike the elites, thought the people should know about it. He was also a mentor to Bill Clinton. Here's an interview from 1974 with him talking about it
www.liveleak.com...
reply posted on 26-12-2009 @ 04:31 PM by coverfirehero
1967 - The right to education; from proclamation to achievement, 1948-1968 by Louis Francois
United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (UNESCO)
unesdoc.unesco.org...
(page 18) ‘We are witnessing the establishment of a new world order based upon the system of the United Nations’
(page 25)‘(…) not only is the population of the world increasing; it is also growing younger (…). So the first obstacle to be overcome by education is that of quantity. The first problem to be solved by a ministry of education is that of accommodating and teaching these rapidly increasing multitudes of young people.’
‘Educational expansion is hard put to it to keep up with the huge growth of population.’ In order to effectively guide the population toward SLAVERY, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SHOULD BE REDUCED lest its effectiveness wear off. ‘Wherever we look’, ‘education is striving to forestall the demographic explosion.’[Emphasis mine]
(page 80) ‘Promoting the recognition of the fact that, if the countries of the world are still divided by their interests and their political convictions, they are, day by day, growing more closely interdependent in matters of economics, science, technology and culture. Promoting awareness of the fact that nations must cooperate, that is to say work together for their common good within international organisations.’
‘UNESCO serves as a catalyst for dynamic ideas. Well placed to hear of what is happening in the world, sensitive to the nation’s needs, UNESCO is aware of the very first stirring of ideas, follows their development and can, at the proper time, co-ordinate, harmonize and finally impose them in their full force.’
That's a few things for you guys to think about. I have empirical evidence including the source documents in my blog beginning at year 2000.
www.jamesjdye.blogspot.com...
United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (UNESCO)
unesdoc.unesco.org...
(page 18) ‘We are witnessing the establishment of a new world order based upon the system of the United Nations’
(page 25)‘(…) not only is the population of the world increasing; it is also growing younger (…). So the first obstacle to be overcome by education is that of quantity. The first problem to be solved by a ministry of education is that of accommodating and teaching these rapidly increasing multitudes of young people.’
‘Educational expansion is hard put to it to keep up with the huge growth of population.’ In order to effectively guide the population toward SLAVERY, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SHOULD BE REDUCED lest its effectiveness wear off. ‘Wherever we look’, ‘education is striving to forestall the demographic explosion.’[Emphasis mine]
(page 80) ‘Promoting the recognition of the fact that, if the countries of the world are still divided by their interests and their political convictions, they are, day by day, growing more closely interdependent in matters of economics, science, technology and culture. Promoting awareness of the fact that nations must cooperate, that is to say work together for their common good within international organisations.’
‘UNESCO serves as a catalyst for dynamic ideas. Well placed to hear of what is happening in the world, sensitive to the nation’s needs, UNESCO is aware of the very first stirring of ideas, follows their development and can, at the proper time, co-ordinate, harmonize and finally impose them in their full force.’
That's a few things for you guys to think about. I have empirical evidence including the source documents in my blog beginning at year 2000.
www.jamesjdye.blogspot.com...
reply posted on 3-1-2010 @ 02:53 PM by ElNiño
A lot of people are very confused about the "New World Order". It's a reason why a lot of people do not believe in its inevitability. The "NWO"
isn't some crazy Iluminati/Free Mason/Bilderberger/Communist/Space Alien conspiracy. It is the natural result of the end-times of civilization.
The NWO occurs not when someone decides that they want to be King of the World and God Emperor of All. It happens after countless agreements, treaties and alliances are made until there are none left to make. When there are no more perceived threats or enemies and the only ones left to fight with are each other.
At the moment, we still have Iran, North Korea, Libya and various south and central American countries to consider enemies. But once no one longer poses a threat, we won't have anyone on whom to focus our aggressions. That time is coming soon, my friends.
JonnyGouda@gmail.com aka ElNiño^
elninopredicts.blogspot.com...
The NWO occurs not when someone decides that they want to be King of the World and God Emperor of All. It happens after countless agreements, treaties and alliances are made until there are none left to make. When there are no more perceived threats or enemies and the only ones left to fight with are each other.
At the moment, we still have Iran, North Korea, Libya and various south and central American countries to consider enemies. But once no one longer poses a threat, we won't have anyone on whom to focus our aggressions. That time is coming soon, my friends.
JonnyGouda@gmail.com aka ElNiño^
elninopredicts.blogspot.com...
reply posted on 5-1-2010 @ 11:44 PM by coverfirehero
Originally posted by ElNiño
A lot of people are very confused about the "New World Order". It's a reason why a lot of people do not believe in its inevitability. The "NWO" isn't some crazy Iluminati/Free Mason/Bilderberger/Communist/Space Alien conspiracy. It is the natural result of the end-times of civilization.
The NWO occurs not when someone decides that they want to be King of the World and God Emperor of All. It happens after countless agreements, treaties and alliances are made until there are none left to make. When there are no more perceived threats or enemies and the only ones left to fight with are each other.
At the moment, we still have Iran, North Korea, Libya and various south and central American countries to consider enemies. But once no one longer poses a threat, we won't have anyone on whom to focus our aggressions. That time is coming soon, my friends.
JonnyGouda@gmail.com aka ElNiño^
elninopredicts.blogspot.com...
My research indicates that today the new world order is an ideology that promtes the creation of a scientfically planned world state or structure for the entire world. It used to be two factions fighting each other for it, one side wanted socialism and the other wanted a world federation but to solve the conflict they met together in secret and decided that we would release the tension between them as hegelian dialectic predicted by becoming a synthesis of each other. The countries that are left as rogue states are ones that the new world order doesn't control yet and they see this move towards the new world order the only way they could avert war by merging the economy of the world and blurring borders between nations. One World or None, they would say, and it is like a religion to them but who elected these guys to be the masters of the universe? The connection to this idea and the Illuminati is both in symbolic interactions and in that if you read the Illuminati's own documents that were published by John Robison, it was always their intention to create a universal regime over the entire planet and they called themselves "The Order." Adam Weishaupt never would've gone along with it if he'd known how concepts like overpopulation
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