reply to post by colbe
All this blood drinking and flesh eating cannibalism has its roots in the so-called Mystery Religions which flourished throughout the Roman Empire
(from BCE 300 to 700 CE) e.g. the Mysteries of Attis and Kubaba, the Mysteries of Kore & Persephone (i.e. the Eleusian Mysteries of Greece), the
Mysteries of Tammuzi (or Attanuz = Adonis) the Mysteries of Wusir & Aset (Gk. Osiris kai Isis), the Mysteries of Hapi-Wusir (Serapis = aka Osiris and
Apis) etc. so it is not surprising to hear the early Christian Bishops talking about 'our Mysteries of Christ' and even Saul of Tarsus (where
Mithraism was introduced into Rome) spoke weirdo sayings like 'Behold, I tell you a Mystery...we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in
a moment and in a twinkling of an eye...'
We can see the Mystery Religions perculating up into the first Christians in their Baptism ceremonies (very similar to the Pythagorean Mysteries,
amongst others !) and even Mystery Language is placed into the mouth of the various Greek Speaking Jesuses of the council approved Greek canonical
gospels e.g. 'To you is given the Secret of the Mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven...but to all those outside, everything must appear as
echoing the Dead Sea Scrolls mantra of 'things revealed and things concealed' from non-initiates. Even the Dead Sea Scrolls had Mystery Religion
Rule Books called 'Serekhim' which were modelled on Greek Mystery Religious Texts for Initiates (e.g. The Scroll of the Rule for the Monastery at
Seccacah for all the Sons of Light in the Last Days' or The Scroll of the Rule of all the Sons of Light in the Last Days for the Camps of
Interestingly, wine (or the 'blood of the grape' to use a Hebraism) was already adopted as 'the blood of the god' for 'initiates' (Gr. Mustes)
to drink in the Mysteries of Mithras, which was introduced to Rome by Cilician Pirates out of Tarsus (where 'Saul/Paul' hailed from) in 79 BCE - the
god Mitra was originally from northern Persia and was worshipped as Mithras Helios Invictus, the Unconquorable Sun - one of his 25 or so titles was
'The Mediator' between the gods and mankind, ' Saviour of the World' and identified as 'the sun of Righteousness' (see Malachi chapter 4)
The Mithraic Eucharist-Communion of wine drinking is nearly indistinguishable form the later 2nd century Christian Mysteries of the Feast of the
Messiah (Gk. Christos)
See the prayer said at a Mithraic communion where Mithras speaks: "Amen, I say to you, he who will not eat of my body, nor drink of my blood so that
he may be one with me and I with him, the same shall not be saved."
This prayer may be compared to the Christian Eucharist story in the 3rd Greek canonical Gospel according to 'Luke' (whoever he was) chapter 21:16ff
when a Greek speaking Iesous breaks the matzah bread at Pesach and is purported to say, "The Bar Enasha ('son of man' see Aram. Daniel 7:13) will
not again take up the Blood of the Grape to his Lips until he raises it again in the Kingdom...and he broke the bread saying, take this, all of you,
for this is my body which is to be broken for you and for the Many...."
The Mithraic bishops wore a pointed style hat known as a Mithras, or Mitre, based on 'the Persian Cap of Perseus-Mithras' as their badge of office
which was also adopted by early Christian bishops.
During a mass, Mithraists commemorated the ascension of the sun-god by eating a mizad, a sun shaped bun
with the sword (cross) of Mithra. The mass and the communion wafer were likewise adapted to later Christianity.
I do not think one can overlook the basic facts
l. that the Dead Sea Scroll Community (which flourished between 160 BCE and 68 CE) was formed and run like sort of a Jewish Messianic Apocalyptic
Pythagorean Mystery School
2. that Saul of Tarsus hailed from a specific part of the world (Tarsus in Cilicia) where Roman Mithraism had its western Capitol - a Mystery Religion
that was already quite ensconced in the Empire by the time of Julius Caesar - and therefore long before 'Iesous' of the Gospels sprang into
No wonder elements of the 'pagan' Mystery Schools (like the ritual baptism of initiates, or the drinking of blood of the god or eating of the god's
flesh to achieve a kind of spiritual 'communion' with him) were later found creeping into 2nd and 3rd century Christianites as they spread
throughout the Empire - they tried to make the 'new religion' acceptable/palatable to Roman Citizens (for financial reasons no doubt) and members of
the Mystery Schools could join and bee baptised into several of them at once - !!