'This is a perfectly normal situation with cirrocumulus cloud and a single spreading contrail,' he declared after inspecting one photo for a full minute. Then he flipped to the next. 'Nothing weird about that. Cirrostratus cloud...' And the next. 'The criss-cross pattern is a consequence of planes flying criss-cross patterns....' And the next. 'I've seen many situations like this one....' Contrail formation, Day explained, depends on the relative humidity of the atmosphere-- he ratio of what is to what could be at a particular temperature. When relative humidity is low, contrails dissipate within seconds. But when relative humidity is high, especially at the subzero temperatures of the upper atmosphere, the addition of even a tiny amount of water vapor acts as a catalyst. Under these conditions, contrails may linger and spread to cover the whole sky. ...At length, Day extracted from his bookshelf a well-thumbed edition of Peterson's Field Guide to Clouds and Weather, which he co-authored in 1991 (a good 10 years before chemtrails became widely discussed), turned to the section on contrails, and pointed to a photograph of a thick, white plume--a plume that looked for all the world like a chemtrail...
***See source 1***
Claim: Samples taken have shown the presence of the "DOD patented" bacteria pseudomonas fluorescens.
Fact: The bacteria claimed to be DOD developed and patented is actually a common, naturally occurring bacteria. The US Patent Office (***See source 2***) lists 181 patents involving pseudomonas fluorescens, none of which are held by DOD.
**See source 3***
Chemtrails are a natural occurrence and hold no imposing threats on modern society.
A "flu-like" epidemic is on the rise, which the Center for Disease Control says may be due to some "unknown pathogen." From their May 6, 2000 Influenza Summary Update, 11 out of every 100 newly dead people have died from this "influenza-like illness," but 99 percent of sick patients have tested negative for the flu.
Symptoms from chemtrail exposure:
Allergies, sore and blocked sinuses; dry, hacking, persistent cough; nosebleeds, blood in mucous; swollen, burning, teary eyes with mucous; flu-like, fever, sore throat; pneumonia, upper respiratory; mycoplasma infections; migraine or splitting headaches; pain in back of neck, particularly at the top of the spine, extremely stiff neck; disorientation, foggy brain, sudden dizziness; extreme fatigue, lethargy, inability to concentrate; loud ringing in your ears; depression, anxiety attacks; gastrointestinal distress, bloating; diarrhea, bloody stools; joint pain, aching joints and muscles; thirst (your pets, too!) or loss of appetite; loss of bladder control, tics or spasms; recurring fungal infections; metallic, oily or corrosive smell and taste.
The realistic possibilities of aircraft modification for spraying methods proposed by those who are pro-chemtrail.
There is no evidence whatsoever of aircraft modified to perform some of the spraying methodologies that are proposed. The only things I have ever seen on an aircraft that shoot things out (besides the engine exhaust) is the toilet and the fuel dump orifices, often at the wing tip. If the aircraft are squirting chemicals out of the fuel dump nozzles, what's in the fuel tanks? Poisonous chemicals? Huh-uh. (One exception to this is a military version of a civilian aircraft called TACAMO, a Navy variant of the AWACS aircraft. It has these oddball nozzles near the base of the wings. But they're still fuel-dump nozzles; they've merely been moved inboard because the TACAMO has reconnaissance pods at the wingtips, and they don't want to jettison JP-5 over the million-dollar electronics.
Bear in mind that you don't just strap in a couple of big tanks and poke the nozzles out through the aircraft fuselage. There are VERY stringent engineering details to be worked out regarding structural integrity, movable center of gravity, environmental protection for the crew and poison-loaders, etc. Almost all major mods to an aircraft are done under subsequent contract to the original builder. Since no one at Boeing knows anything about such mods (and I've asked around) this means it either wasn't done, or everyone else (but me) in the company is in on the secret. Huh-uh.
(***See Source 1***)
Data or documentation which contributes proof for a definitive illness that is allegedly caused by chemtrails.
Neck pain/stiff neck
Can't catch breath
Weepy feeling of sadness
No energy/ massive or light fatigue
Feeling disconnected/ "spaced out"
Can't focus thoughts/speech/confusion
Tight chest/gets worse when laying down
Symptoms never seem to go away
Tests from doctors show nothing
Congestion in chest
Dramatic mood swings/anger, sadness
Tightness in chest and/or stomach
Tightness in shoulders both or one side going in to neck, head, and sinuses
Soreness all over
Metallic taste in mouth
Stomach acid problems
Short term memory loss
Let's start with a low figure of 2% of deaths caused by
global chemtrail spraying in 1993, and gradually increase
that percentage over the next years as people's immune
system became more and more compromised, due to
accumulative affects of chemtrail spraying, and increasing
concentrations of chemtrail spraying..........
1993 : 2% of 100 million people = 2 million people.
1994 : 4% of 100 million people = 4 million people.
1995 : 6% of 100 million people = 6 million people.
1996 : 8% of 100 million people = 8 million people.
1997 : 10% of 100 million people = 10 million people.
1998 : 12% of 100 million people = 12 million people.
1999 : 14% of 100 million people = 14 million people.
2000 : 16% of 100 million people = 16 million people.
2001 : 18% of 100 million people = 18 million people.
2002 : 20% of 100 million people = 20 million people.
TOTAL FOR 1993-2002 = 110 MILLION DEATHS
Maybe the figure is less - maybe it is more.
We should not wait until our governments - in their
present state of denial - or our mind-numbing main
media turns to investigate this subject.
(***See Source 4***)
The realistic possibilities of aircraft modification for spraying methods proposed by those who are pro-chemtrail.
C-130H aircraft are modified to perform aerial application. Modifications consist mostly of ULV and LV wing line installation and electrical modifications.
b. Spray System. The MASS is built by Lockheed/Conair. One of the major design criteria of the MASS was that it had to be a "roll-on/roll-off" system allowing the aircraft to be reconfigured for spray or airlift in under an hour. To accommodate the Roll-on/Roll-off design, the full MASS is designed in 3 modules, each attached to modified standard (463L) aircraft cargo pallets. The operators console, pumps, catwalks, and cradles for flush and chemical tanks are all secured to these modified pallets. The pallets lock into the C-130's dual rail system. Once the MASS is loaded, interconnecting plumbing and electrical circuits tie the MASS modules together. To contain any spillage of spray materials, a 1.5" lip (drip pan) surrounds the pallets. The dry weight of the MASS is ca. 10,500 lbs.
the N.A.S. found that the most effective global warming mitigation turned out to be the spraying of reflective aerosol compounds into the atmosphere utilizing commercial, military and private aircraft. This preferred mitigation method is designed to create a global atmospheric shield which would increase the planet's albedo (reflectivity) using aerosol compounds of aluminum and barium oxides, and to introduce ozone generating chemicals into the atmosphere.
It is evident to anyone who cares to look up, that this mitigation is now being conducted worldwide and on a daily basis. It is certain that our leaders have already embarked on an immense geoengineering project; one in which they expect millions of human fatalities, and consider these to be acceptable losses.
The evidence is all around us. For example; this past week Boeing Aircraft received an enormous initial order from the Pentagon for 100 Boeing 767 tanker planes, to begin replacing the Air Force's aging fleet of KC-135s, the most commonly seen chemtrail spray plane. The final order will exceed 500 planes. There has been no mention of the usage of these aircraft.
Geoengineering is being carried on Earth on a staggering scale, without the impediment of environmental laws or regulatory constraints. This grand experiment is being conducted in full view, while being concealed in plain sight.
Originally posted by NephraTari
courtesy of lightwatcher.com...
In Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming: Mitigation, Adaptation, and the Science Bases conclusion...
Is there or has there ever been samples of these air-borne chemicals collected and analyzed to show undeniable proof that chemtrails exist?
Are atmospheric conditions not as equally an explainable conclusion?
The freezing of deliquesced aerosols is the most likely formation mechanism of ice particles in wave clouds. A similar microphysical process has been postulated for the formation of aircraft contrails. Aerosol and cloud particle measurements have been made in contrail and wave clouds that formed under similar environmental conditions. Microphysical and optical properties are compared for these two types of clouds using a number of unique capabilities of the MASP particle probe, i.e., direct detection of forward and backscattered light, and the measurement of particle spacing to determine small scale cloud structures relevant to microphysical processes. The data indicate similarities in optical properties, but significant differences in the number concentrations, liquid water contents and the spatial organization of the cloud particles in the two types of clouds.
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If you are attentive to contrail formation and duration, you will notice that they can rapidly dissipate or spread horizontally into an extensive thin cirrus layer. How long a contrail remains intact, depends on the humidity structure and winds of the upper troposphere. If the atmosphere is near saturation, the contrail may exist for sometime. On the other hand, if the atmosphere is dry then as the contrail mixes with the environment it dissipates. Contrails are a concern in climate studies as increased jet aircraft traffic may result in an increase in cloud cover. It has been estimated that in certain heavy air-traffic corridors, cloud cover has increased by as much as 20%. An increase in cloud amount changes the region's radiation balance. For example, solar energy reaching the surface may be reduced, resulting in surface cooling. They also reduce the terrestrial energy losses of the planet, resulting in a warming. Jet exhaust also plays a role in modifying the chemistry of the upper troposphere and lower stratosphere. NASA and the DOE are sponsoring a research program to study the impact contrails have on atmospheric chemistry, weather and climate.
(***See Source 3***)
Notice the similarity of expanded-contrail structure and the natrual cloud structure. That fluffy structure manifested itself naturally in the haze layer. The contrails simply provided "grist for the mill," and as such, were inducted into the unique cloud-formation mechanics of that day. There was no epidemic of illness that I could detect after February 11, and these contrails were right over where I live.
(***See Source 4***)
H. R. 2977
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.
SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;
(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.
How can the logistics required to power this large of an operation be covered up without any oversight?
Why are the chemtrails produced and displayed in daylight for all to see?
It gets worse. 1951 Department of Defense begins open air tests using disease-producing bacteria and viruses. Tests last through 1969 and there is concern that people in the surrounding areas have been exposed.
1953 U.S. military releases clouds of zinc cadmium sulfide gas over Winnipeg, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Fort Wayne, the Monocacy River Valley in Maryland, and Leesburg, Virginia. Their intent is to determine how efficiently they could disperse chemical agents.
Fast forwarding through the 60's and 70's to 1987. The Department of Defense admits that, despite a treaty banning research and development of biological agents, it continues to operate research facilities at 127 facilities and universities around the nation.
I've concluded that Chemtrails ARE real, though what they're spraying remains a mystery as there are too many theories abounding as to the cause and what the ingredients are. To read some of the first person stories about their experiences with Chemtrails and to see what they look like, here's some links. I also have to thank Michael Irving of World-Action UK for keeping the need for world-knowledge of their existence alive.
I have been very curious as to whether or not the chemtrails have increased the death rate. I found it very difficult to get any official figures to compare from different years so I decided to do an informal check using the classified death listing archives from my local newspaper.
This is what I found:
Year / Death Notice Totals for Jan-Feb:
1995 / 191
1996 / 134
1997 / 105
1998 / 98
1999 / 144
2000 / 196
2001 / 1680
2002 / 1734
2003 / 1728
As you can see the totals for 2003 are almost 10 times higher than the totals for 1995. This seems way out of line and very alarming even taking into consideration an aging population. Perhaps there is another reason for these figures but I suspect it is a result of the chemtrails and what we are seeing may be the result of a deliberate depopulation campaign. (***See Source 2***)
I'm going to have to vote for NephraTari. Great job on this one, and even EnronOutrunHomerun seemed to be affected by the debate. The part that won me over was when EnronOutrunHomerun stated, "So in hindsight, if I could go back and change my argument/persuasion, it would read:
Chemtrails do exist, but there is no solid proof of their harmful effects."
I think at that point NephraTari sealed the win.
A very interesting debate in several ways. Enron clearly did a lot of research, but he bloodied himself up with the admission that chemtrails are real. This is a debate, not Talk with Opera where you share opinons and feelings.
I found that both sides dished out healthy amounts of specious reasoning: NephraTari pointed to some odd numbers while Enron pointed to the lack of definitive causation.
Overall, Enron was more impressive. But his argument was wrong. He was charged with arguing against a logical AND proposition. In admitting that chemtrails were real he failed to statisfy his job as a debater. He wasn't supposed to pick one or the other or engage in whatever flights of fancy his opinon may have led him.
So NephraTari wins the day, standing tall on the slumped back of Enron.
Definately a tough debate, but both participants handled it quite well. I feel that this debate, in my opinion, could easily have gone both ways, but my vote ended up going to NephraTari for presenting and persisting with a more persuasive argument/presentation.
I had to side with NephraTari because EnronOutrunHomerun didn't actually seem to be debating, which is a shame considering the obvious amount of time they put into research.
EnronOutrunHomerun had planning, varied sources, and the more persuasive argument. I have to give this one to him, although it was a great debate. Way to go, both!
This was an interesting debate. However, I was a bit distracted by the number of times that Kano had to edit and by the large amount of quotes. Please proofread your posts and check them for spelling, grammar, link function and that they conform to the rules. My vote goes to NephraTari on this one for a couple of reasons, the least of which being that she did not concede her stance. EnronOutrunHomerun had the right plan in the beginning, but shot himself in the foot by the middle of the debate and then totally conceded his side by the end. NEVER concede your point.
This one was very difficult to judge. The topic is "Chemtrails' are a real and concerning phenomenon." The first part of the criteria was conceded by Enron but he proved the latter. NephraTari put up a good debate, however I feel that the most credible source material was provided by, the winner, EnronOutrunHomerun. Nice job by both.
NepraTari has this debate sown up with a clear presentation versus her opponents interesting but muddled responses.