Stunning Number: Big Banks set to lose 70,000 accounts today, page 3
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reply posted on 5-11-2011 @ 03:21 PM by isitoveryet
Originally posted by Riffrafter
Originally posted by Ferris.Bueller.II
Originally posted by Riffrafter
reply to
post by Sauron



650,000?!?



That is an amazing number and will definitely have a big impact on their bottom-lines.


Really? Again? 650,000 of how many total? How do you know how big of an impact it's going to be without having all the information?


Do you actually believe that losing 650,000 customer accounts will not have an impact? Every dollar they lose means $7-$10 less they can lend.




or have already lent


reply posted on 5-11-2011 @ 04:43 PM by Xcathdra
reply to post by Riffrafter



If im not mistaken I thought I saw where BOA has lost a crap ton of accounts, way more than the 70+k being talked about. Did anyone else see what I am talking about or did I confuse soemthing.



reply posted on 5-11-2011 @ 04:56 PM by peck420
Originally posted by Ferris.Bueller.II
reply to
post by Fractured.Facade


I personally see this as a positive sign of Americans finally waking up to what commercial banking is. So far it's small, but hopefully it grows as more and more people see the benefits of doing business with credit unions. I learned this lesson back in the 80's and have not used a commercial bank since.


Do you think commercial banks started out big?

Until the laws are changed the game wont change. Players might, but game wont.


reply posted on 5-11-2011 @ 05:01 PM by blah yada
reply to post by Adamanteus



It's a start.We've got to start somewhere.If as you say, these 650k can atrract/convince others to join credit unions or mutual banks, such institutions could grow to a point whereby they can start attracting small business accounts, followed by larger ones as they are offered more and more services.

When you look at the success of Paypal, operating as a webbank only, you can see that it is not that difficult to compete with the big boys. A Paypal account with a paypal debit card is extremely versatile and I've never had a problem using it anywhere.Surely a network of credit unions and or mtual banks could devise a similar platform, a common one through which they could all operate.

The problem still remains though that we are still dealing in the same corrupt currency. This makes us vulnerable regardless of the type of bank we use. Ultimately, a new currency would be needed and if it was implemented, it would be a real gamechanger.

Account holders in a unified system of credit unions and mutual banks could be issued new currency based on the amount of dollars in their account. Meanwhile their dollars would remain but be kept in escroe as a fallback if needed or for bank running costs payable only in dollars.


reply posted on 5-11-2011 @ 06:12 PM by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by Rockstrongo37


Think of it this way. If it really was your money, and the bank is only looking after it in good faith and doing nothing unscrupulous, you have nothing to worry about.


reply posted on 5-11-2011 @ 06:42 PM by Riffrafter
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to
post by Riffrafter



If im not mistaken I thought I saw where BOA has lost a crap ton of accounts, way more than the 70+k being talked about. Did anyone else see what I am talking about or did I confuse soemthing.


Check out Sauron's post. The number is actually 650,000 and is probably higher than that. The 70K number was from one groups website only.

Here's his post with link:

Sauron's post from CUNA



reply posted on 5-11-2011 @ 06:48 PM by Jason88
reply to post by Riffrafter



This week I opened an account at a local community bank and changed the direct deposit for my work check to go in there. I left $20 in BOA account, but it no longer will get my paychecks or savings anymore. I'll close it soon, but for my part BOA can't count on my salary as a reliable, reportable source of money on the books.


reply posted on 5-11-2011 @ 06:54 PM by vonholland
Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
"Moving" your money from the big banks to credit unions is laughable... It comes back to them eventually, where do the credit unions invest? who are the credit unions affiliated with?

What goes around comes back around.

If you really wanted to shake up the system... Remove everything in cash, all 70,000 of you, pile it all up and set it on fire.

Of course then things would get really ugly in a hurry... Better stick with the more lame stuff that really doesn't accomplish much but makes a statement in the media.



Will respond to two piecees. First the fact that CUs will invest in big banks. Not too sure that CUs invest in big banks. Here is a breakdown of the average assets (things they use to make money) of a CU. from my Financial Institutions textbook used in the Masters in Finance program at Vilanova University:

Assets: (in billions)
Checkable deposits and currency: 40.3
TIme and savings deposits: 18.2
Fed funds and security RP's 6.1
open market paper 2.3
us gov treasuries 114.6
home mortgages 272.9
consumer credit 234.6
mutual fund shares 2.0
misc assets 19.8

Doesnt look like much, if any, is in other banks. most, to my view, looks like consumer (basic person) credit and home mortgages.

source:Saunders and Cornett Financial Institutions Management: A risk management Approach. 6th edition page 56.

And burning money would hurt the customer. when the banks need more, they print it. Hurting the banks would be taking out all deposits, switching to credit unions, gold and barter, upping the tier 1 capital ratio etc.

or limiting the profits of banks with some law that would minimize their ability to take risks. like not let them use deposits and lend them out. you know actuqlly ahve to keep the assets safe (would allow them to not use insruance?) Just thinking out loud. too tired to knwo the solution to the biggest world problem.

But stop lying fractious facade!


reply posted on 5-11-2011 @ 07:05 PM by Whatsreal
reply to post by Rockstrongo37



fool.... if you want to make an omelet, you have to break an egg.

so sorry that you might be inconvenienced. but at least there was plenty enough warning that this was going to happen. but did you listen, no. everybody wants change, but hardly anyone wants to do anything to participate.

perhaps if you cared about things outside your own little sphere you'd be singing a different tune.


reply posted on 5-11-2011 @ 07:38 PM by b3l13v3
reply to post by neo96



Yep go right ahead and move all those accounts and strip the control that the banking organizations have had for so long.

Creating a place where corporate interest is less important than the citizens.



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