Anonymous says Facebook attack was never real

Anonymous says Facebook attack was never real

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Members of Anonymous fed up with reports that the online activist group is going to take down the social network said today that the threat is not real and was the work of one lone member without any support from others in the group. They said it doesn't make sense to shut down a site they use to get their message out.

"Anonymous is a movement we don't take kindly to when people try to (expletive) it up. Our movement relies on communicating with people around the world so we can help one another," a statement posted to Pastebin today said.

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The article goes on to say :

"One skiddy queer chap named Anthony [last name redacted] from the US in Ohio decided to take it upon himself to have some lulz with creating an imaginary opfacebook and pawning it off as a legit anon op," the statement said. "Despite us telling this mate several times we did not support his op, he continued to push his agenda for lulz. This op is phony but he continues to say it's an anon op."

The statement then provides an address, phone number, and other information ostensibly belonging to the individual named. (We've chosen not to include his last name in this post.)

"If you are against how we communicate on facebook, twitter, and anonops for example then you are against anonymous and become our enemy since you are trying to disrupt our movement," the statement says. "Because of this we decided to social the Opfacebook skiddy and hack him. "

So yet again another proposed Anonymous #Op is apparently not going to happen (at least according to this news source). Together with the Zeta #Op any a few others this year this is starting to get a bit boring.

The problem with the Anon movement is the lack of any central control which means that not much can be checked up when the news of a new Op surfaces. So when an Op gets canceled or just doesn't happen we never know if it was a fake to begin with, they changed their minds or if they just couldn't produce the goods on the day. Also because of the 'anonymous' nature of their videos that get uploaded to Youtube theres no way of telling if they are the real deal or if they have been faked.

Anonymous is clearly not a perfect operation but what really annoys me is how many people claim to know whats going on in the movement and instantly back any news of a new Op as soon as it surfaces. Then when the Ops don't happen the same people come up with statements like 'we have decided there are bigger fish to fry' or 'people are still working on this' after news that the Op was apparently not going to happen in the first place.

Anonymous have done some great Ops in the past and they are bound to do some more in the future. But we have to remember some of their best Ops have just happened without warning. So i think its about time people stopped instantly believing every random video of a guy in a mask that gets uploaded to youtube. We all know the main stream media can not be trusted to print the truth but as soon as they come up with a story of a new Op everyone falls for it. Its clear that the public are very interested in Anonymous so the MSM are going to print stories about any new attack without even trying to find out if they are real or not. Then when the Op doesn't happen the MSM are only to happy to print stories that Anon have backed down or were just not capable when a lot of the time its clear it was never going to happen in the first place.

Also if Anon are going to continue to send warnings by using a guy in a mask on youtube they really need to sort out some kind of official verifiable line of communication so that dangerous mistakes are not made like with the Zeta Op.

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I never thought this was real, they do rely on FB a lot for their message. The bank transfer day was what they were pushing for today I believe. We will see how that goes.

Real Nov 5th Op. It has a lot of supporters and participants too:

Huh, it seems like maybe some of their members are taking the party line too literally.

"Anyone can be Anonymous."

And in a leaderless movement, anyone can set the agenda. Which is how some poor bastard ends up hog-tied by the zetas, and another hacked and ostracized.

Terrible news.

Who cares.Anon should just go fall of the face of the earth and stop thinking they're important. No offense op,thanks for posting.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ...NO WAIT!!! ..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

only know they remember it was fake.... ridiculous!!

Originally posted by nightstalker78
Who cares.Anon should just go fall of the face of the earth and stop thinking they're important. No offense op,thanks for posting.

yeah

reply to post by voyger2


Anonymous are you and I. It´s not really any "they". If you understood the concept, this whole post is moot.

ANYONE can make a youtoube video, trying to get enough support for an operation. If the support is there (from ANYONE, and many enough), it will undoubtedly happen. If the support is not there, it will not happen, That is the nature of it. So no need to blame "them", it is clear that op did not have enough support, simple as that. If you want something to happen, make a youtube vid from anynymous, and see if people agree. Then it will happen.

Simply put, it is Democrazy, in it´s purest form. With enough support, anything can happen.

Why wait till the last day then? If this would be fake they would have made that clear from the beginning. This is just embarrasing!

reply to post by NeoVain

ANYONE can make a youtoube video, trying to get enough support for an operation. If the support is there (from ANYONE, and many enough), it will undoubtedly happen. If the support is not there, it will not happen, That is the nature of it. So no need to blame "them", it is clear that op did not have enough support, simple as that. If you want something to happen, make a youtube vid from anynymous, and see if people agree. Then it will happen.

If that is the case then why have Anon chosen to print personal details of the guy including name, address phone number etc who put up the video and 'tried to get support' and asked everyone to hack him and give him hell?

It would be great if anyone could try to get support in that manor but it seems that if no one agrees there could be dire consequences for the person who uploaded the vid.

reply to post by Hellas


Do we know that they really only came out against it on the last day? Or was it just reported on now. Sounds like they were arguing with and after that guy for a while since he made the post. If they were behind it they wouldn't have backed down they would have just done whatever they could with ddos's or whatever. I would say that they have said it wasn't their plan for a while.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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Do we know that they really only came out against it on the last day? Or was it just reported on now. Sounds like they were arguing with and after that guy for a while since he made the post. If they were behind it they wouldn't have backed down they would have just done whatever they could with ddos's or whatever. I would say that they have said it wasn't their plan for a while.

This seems to be one of the main problems regarding Ops from Anon. When the first video for the Zeta#Op came out within hrs Anon Mexico were saying through their facebook page it was fake and they were not going to carry out the threats made and asked everyone to pass on the message. Yet 3 weeks later the MSM gets hold of the news , reports it as being real and all the Anon supporters who are not 'in the loop' start backing the whole idea. Everyone wants to see Anon doing attacks and no one want to listen when they are told its not going to happen.

We all like the cool looking Anon videos but they are to easily replicated by anyone with a computer , editing software , a mask and a simple text to speech program.

In my opinion, threatening to take a certain action on a certain day doesn't make much sense, in the context of this this supposed threat. That alone clearly tells you nothing is going to happen.

Bank transfer day, however.. Nother story. Just too bad it falls on a Saturday, which is today.

Originally posted by Hellas
Why wait till the last day then? If this would be fake they would have made that clear from the beginning. This is just embarrasing!

Because they didn't want to fail again, like with the NYSE.

Would have went something like this...

Anonymous was successful in slowing Facebook down for 14 milliseconds, twice in two hours.

reply to post by PhoenixOD


They rely on a website constantly monitored by CIA....your smart!!!

reply to post by BeyondPerception


Well.. people were supposed to do it building up until today. It falls on a saturday because most people are off work AND the banks are open until what noon?

Also, announcing an action before hand is common right? I mean, isn't that what certain governments are doing right now to threaten some countries? They do that to try to cause an over reaction which costs said banks or groups time, money, and effort in preparation. Not to mention a little fear. Same thing the government does. Causes those countries fear, time spent, money spent, and possible preemptive action which would justify wars against them. Buh Buh Buuuuh

reply to post by Fractured.Facade


No.. if you look back they had been saying it wasn't an "official" anon ops for a while. News is always late on these things. They news knows that if they make it look like they backed out at the last second it will make anon look "bad." There have been tons of fake anon ops. Anyone can make a video since they are anonymous. I even suspect alex jones' made one before and I think it gained some small support with anon members that didn't know and were out of the loop as stated above.

These ops are thrown out and are subject to democracy in it's most raw form. However many people like it are how many people participate. When fake ones are thrown out claiming to do something they likely can't Anon usually comes out and says they are fake because there is a good reason not to do it that whatever single individual did not think of so Anon has to swoop in and educate (facebook op: not possible, opcartel: possibly get people killed). Ideas thrown in the ring like bank transfer day however get major support so you have over 30,000 or 40,000 (somewhere between last I checked) pledged participants on the facebook group. You have tens of thousands more not on the facebook page or on the fb pages. There are probably well over 100,000 people pledging to take their money out before or on todays date. We have already seen banks start to back down from things like BOA's swipe fees. That is because they are already losing money.

Heres what I don't get, if you they want to make this constant claim of just being a giant collective, and not any 1 group/person/etc. How can they say something isn't an Anon operation? If the people doing something identift themselves by Anon, is that not Anon?

Lot of people claim Blood & Crip but have never had any real association with Bloods or Crips. They just associate with the idea of it.

By using that broad line to define themselves they give up the right "That isn't us" they need to accept that still comes from Anon.

reply to post by MCJustJ


Because I believe there are ops that get a large amount of support on their forums and chats before they make videos on it. Those ops they discuss the pros and cons and plausibility. These other "unofficial" ops are ones that single people or small groups just throw up videos for hoping the get support after the fact. Since its a small group or single person the idea is often not very educated (like how the cartel op would have gotten more people killed).

They probably were planning the op but then realized FB had bigger pipes than them, so instead of admiting to failiure they just said it wasnt real